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Jaaron Simmons is expected to take over Derrick Walton's role. [Marc-Gregor Campredon]

Nick's Question: Basketball media day is today, which gives us an excuse to talk about something besides football. Let's do that.

Which Basketball Player Are You Most Interested To See As The Season Starts?

Ace: You might expect me to say Charles Matthews, and the Kentucky transfer’s development since his freshman year is certainly of paramount importance to the success of this team. That said, I’m going with Ohio grad transfer Jaaron Simmons, who’ll be tasked with replacing the majority of Derrick Walton’s possessions as the team’s lead guard.

The key to last year’s offense was the high screen tandem of Walton and Moe Wagner, who found a way to beat opponents no matter how they tried to defend it. According to Synergy, Walton graded out in the 86th percentile as a pick-and-roll ball handler in 149 possessions; the only returning Wolverine to use 50 such possessions last season was Muhammad-Ali Abdur-Rahkman, who graded out in the 31st percentile. Zavier Simpson showed good passing ability on limited possessions but his lack of an outside shooting threat is going to seriously limit him — opponents are going to sag off and dare him to shoot until he proves he can make them pay.

Given an enormous workload on a team with limited talent, Simmons played with surprising efficiency last year, reaching the 65th percentile as a P&R ball handler in 228 possessions, the 18th-most in the country. (Others in the top 25: Jawun Evans, Melo Trimble, Tai Webster, Bryan McIntosh, Corey Webster, Nate Mason.) He ranked in the 70th percentile in offense derived from pick-and-roll situations even though he played with substandard (47th percentile) roll men; Wagner graded out in the 90th percentile.

Simmons is very capable as both a scorer and passer, and Michigan’s surrounding talent should allow him to play with greater efficiency than he did as a heavy-usage player on a mid-major squad. (Ohio’s #2 option last year was MSU castoff Kenny Kaminski.) While Matthews is the key to Michigan’s defensive success, Simmons is the newcomer who’s best equipped to keep Beilein’s offense scoring up to its lofty standard.

[Hit THE JUMP for the rest of the roundtable.]


Charles Matthews, Ultimate X-Factor [Campredon]

David: Low-Hanging Fruit says: Charles Matthews #SorryNotSorry

I am legit excited to see him play. Michigan has brought in their fair share of shooters...or even developed their fair share of shooters. They also have gotten a couple of exciting point guards who have complemented the ability to find open guys with a strong side of Rack Attack. Those are both highly desirable player profiles, and I will never get tired of Michigan bringing them to Ann Arbor. 

Charles Matthews is a different kind of recruit though. He is of the 'Crazy Athlete-Slasher' ilk. This is generally the type of dude that has eluded John Beilein in his Michigan tenure. Not anymore? THJ was mostly a shooter -until late in his Wolverine career; GR3, while a versatile athlete, was also a shooter and offensive rebound freelancer, similar to The Matrix. I loved Caris, but we never saw his uninjured potential for very long. Charles Matthews looks to be the lengthy wing who can beat his man off of the bounce and get into the lane. While it's ideal for a point guard to be able to do that, having a 6'5" athletic wing allows for different lineups and points of attack. Also, I'm always going to take a bouncy 6'5" athlete finishing at the rim over Michigan's recent run of sub-6'0" point guards.

While Simmons and Wagner are also extremely vital to Michigan's success this season, Matthews takes this team's potential ceiling to a high level. If he's close to the athlete that has been touted, Michigan's perimeter defense will also take a giant step forward. Hitting big with Matthews could improve a plethora of areas for this team...and he still has three years of eligibility left.

Ace: I think you hit on the big thing at the end. Matthews’s athleticism and strength on defense is going to be really significant with Duncan Robinson locked into a starting spot. Depending on the night, Matthews might have to guard a speedy perimeter slasher or a burly traditional power forward if Robinson’s defense doesn’t take a big step forward from last year. If he can hide Robinson’s defense enough to make Robinson’s offense well worth his time on the floor, that’ll really help the team’s shooting even if Matthews isn’t a pinpoint shooter himself.

Seth: I think both of those are the big X factors, and you can throw the guard formerly known as X into that pile as well. But c'mon guys: another year of progression for Moe Wagner in an offense built around his abilities: yeah! Like, how often do we get another year out of a guy on the edge of a draft decision? Burke. Um...

Kenpom's #22 returning player in the country is young for his class, remember, so there's maybe more upside to explore in the brawny categories. He's already one of the most terrifying stretch fives in the country. Into the NCAA tournament he was still surprising us with his ability to undress some dudes when he puts the ball on the floor, and contributing defensively with opportune steals (he'll never be an average defender). But mostly Mo Weezy is going to be the focal point of an offense that gets a ton of space because of him. After a decade of Beilein we're finally going to get to see a Pittsnogle offense in Ann Arbor. I can't wait.

Alex: Simmons and Matthews would be my top two, in that order. If Beilein hadn't found a top-notch mid-major point guard on the grad transfer market, I'd be very worried about the position - fortunately he was able to find a stopgap replacement for Derrick Walton to give the young point guards room to develop. As for Matthews, it seems like there could be a wide range of possible outcomes: he could be just a guy (though a very athletic guy) or he could be an NBA player.

Austin Davis could provide much-needed big man skills off the bench [Campredon]

Since those two were already discussed, I'll pick another newcomer: Austin Davis. He was a whodat recruiting pickup from a small high school and spent the last year remolding his body, as most big men tend to need to do. Michigan was poor at the five when Moe was out (and if DJ didn't slide over); Donnal wasn't brought back for a fifth year and minutes backing up Moe will go to either Jon Teske or Davis. Teske was quite lost on the offensive end last season - something that Beilein is loathe to tolerate - and even though he has potential as a rim protector, he still has a long ways to go. Davis is nearly a complete unknown, but supposedly he's good at catching and finishing from ball-screen action (making the Ricky Doyle comparisons inaccurate) and if he can hold up defensively, he could provide some solid minutes if Moe is in foul trouble or needs a breather.

Brian: I've been weirdly optimistic about Austin Davis for a while now, based on almost nothing. There is this all-time Beilein quote:

"In the middle of January, it all started slowing down," Beilein said. "Guys just throw him the ball and he puts it in. There's no drama, there's no Kardashians. The ball is in. The ball goes in."

Also this from DJ Wilson:

"He finishes everything around the basket – everything he catches from, like, 12 feet in. He has great hands," Wilson said. "At the other end, he somehow always gets his hands on the ball, whether it's tipping balls or blocking shots."

Now we get to see if those quotes have any basis in reality. Davis isn't going to be Wagner on offense, but if he's a plus rebounder, good defender, and able to consistently finish at the rim when given opportunities he's a big upgrade as Wagner's backup. If he's an average rebounder and average defender he's still an upgrade. Everyone dismissed Davis as a recruit but even if he's not a super athlete he's got great footwork and the requisite burliness to compete. I'm looking forward to see what he does.

In a similar vein, maybe Jon Teske will look less like an unfinished golem this year? Big men develop slowly and if Teske can put together anything on offense his potential as a rim protector entices.

Ace: While I get the sense Davis is going to be the backup, I’ll be watching Teske very closely. His potential as a shot-blocker and rebounder is undeniable, plus he’s shown the capability (in practice settings, not games yet) to step out and hit midrange jumpers. He still needs to figure out where he’s supposed to be on a given set, but if he can add a major defensive presence without killing the team’s spacing on the other end, he could be a very valuable rotation piece.

Comments

Robbie Moore

October 25th, 2017 at 3:18 PM ^

...cmon guys...5 star Kentucky recruit. Didn't get a lot of PT his freshman season. Transfers so is relagated to Camp Beilein and Camp Sanderson for a year. Now in his third year out of high school. Kid has the skills and now has had a year to get his mind and body right. Reputed to have the skill to defend 1-4. With Wagner stretching the floor Matthews should have ample room to slash to the hoop. I'm real excited to see him contribute.

Ramblin

October 25th, 2017 at 2:57 PM ^

I think #38 is too low.  I know...  Football...   Why don't I learn...

However, Wagner is going to be good and the new transfers are just what the doctor ordered IMO.  A few things need to fall into place (2nd big man) but I actually think this team might shock a few people?

I'll probably regret saying that...  I have a feeling though.

ypsituckyboy

October 25th, 2017 at 12:25 PM ^

I'm most interested in seeing Eli Brooks. I was pretty down on the Brooks pick-up from the get go, due to competition level and what I thought was underwhelming film. However, from the sound of things, he's the best of the freshman so far.

Given his size advantage and his purported athleticism, I wouldn't be surprised if he sees more playing time than Simpson and Simmons by the end of the year. My guess is he'll spend most of his time at the 2, backing up MAAR, and have opportunity at the 1 if his handle is good enough and if he gains a good understanding of the offense (i.e. can limit turnovers).

champswest

October 25th, 2017 at 3:23 PM ^

confident and Davis is no comparison to his high school video. Both are going to help us. With Moe getting 30+ minutes we don't need the other two to be all stars. We just need them to be steady. Actually, I think the 5 position will be a significant upgrade from last year. 

Novak-blood

October 25th, 2017 at 12:36 PM ^

Wonderful little round-table, Ace. Thank you for a temporary distraction from the recently harsh realism of football season. Have to admit that after Saturday evening's nightmarish result, I took my first peek at the basketball schedule on Monday. Even though I was aware of the conference schedule expanding, it was still a shock to see B1G opponents in early December. Some very intriguing non-conference match-ups as well. Very excited for the season to get underway. Lots of new faces to cheer on.

MaizeAndBlueWahoo

October 25th, 2017 at 12:36 PM ^

I always say basketball is a chemistry experiment.  Every year, you lose some ingredients and you gain some, and the coaches and players have to relearn how to mix them together correctly.  This year, MAAR, Mo, and Duncan are really the only big returners.  OK, X/Zavier Simpson too, but he rarely played double-digit minutes in non-blowouts.

So really, three major holdovers, and even then sometimes an ingredient changes in the offseason, like how we hope Mo leveled up big-time.  Most of the ingredients are new.  I think this team has a chance to be really, really good, but it'll take some time to show.  It could take as long as midway through the B1G season before it comes together completely.

taistreetsmyhero

October 25th, 2017 at 12:58 PM ^

Zavier shows some growth as a shooter and overall player. Not only would a solid PG off the bench help the team, but it would be promising going forward.

And yes, it would be nice if Austin Davis could be even a slight improvement over Donnal off the bench.

Bambi

October 25th, 2017 at 12:57 PM ^

I wanna see Isaiah Livers. He's a highly touted player with a PF type body, PF skillset (in Beilein's offense) and we have a PF sized hole. If he can develop to the point where he's a viable B1G starter at PF, especially on the defensive end, and we don't have to start Duncan there, that's huge.

PurpleBeaverEater

October 25th, 2017 at 2:12 PM ^

This is of significant importance IMO as well. Duncan has always seemed to be a small time contributor to me, so penciling him into the starting lineup makes me think we have a huge weak spot. Would love to see Livers come in and impress to man this spot. Also would be great to see Davis be able to man the 5 so Mo can slide to 4 and we can see a rotation of Livers and Matthews at the 3. Will be fun to get the season started and see where we stand.

grossag

October 25th, 2017 at 1:11 PM ^

I'm most excited to see Zavier Simpson this year. He grew a lot in his play over the tournaments at the end of the year and I am looking forward to seeing his continued development.

After 3.5-hour football games, I'm excited to switch up to see some 2-hour basketball games!

AC1997

October 25th, 2017 at 1:17 PM ^

On Davis, I don't see any reason why he can't give you a lot of the Jordan Morgan attributes in a back-up role.  Play hard, play D, rebound, finish easy stuff around the rim.  Morgan wasn't particularly big or athletic and he did very well.  Even Ricky Doyle had his moments and may have looked a lot better playing 10mpg as a backup than 30mpg as a starter.  Do the simple stuff, don't be a liability - Davis (or Teske) will be perfect.

But the name on my list outside of Simmons/Matthews is Livers.  He is the only person on the entire roster that actually fits the mold needed at the 4 and we finally got a taste of what can happen with that spot locked down last year with DJ.  In this very post you heard some of the concerns about starting Robinson out of position at the 4 out of necessity.  If Livers is able to contribute enough to earn >15mpg then suddenly you've opened up a lot of options for the 2/3 positions.  Given his size, skills, and recruiting profile I don't see why Livers isn't going to be an inticing option.  (Even Kam Chatman has his moments at that position early in his career.) 

Brian Griese

October 25th, 2017 at 1:18 PM ^

Austin will surprise some people. I also happen to have some intel about what prompted the Beilein quote from February that’s above: during a scrimmage that week, Austin went completely bonkers. Beilein kept getting more and more agitated as he cycled through every big guy on the roster, trying to find someone to slow him down. Finally, after whomever was the last person to try and stop him was unsuccessful, Beilein blew his top, screaming “is anyone going to fucking stop Austin!?” Good day of practice or long term trend, I’m not sure, but hopefully we find out soon.

GordonG

October 25th, 2017 at 1:34 PM ^

although would really like to see Wagner have a monster All-American year to reward him for coming back to us !!!

Go Blue!!

Blue boy johnson

October 25th, 2017 at 2:09 PM ^

Good stuff. I don’t see Teske ever being a force on the boards. Other than being tall, he doesn’t have attributes of a good rebounder. Davis on the other hand has a chance to be best rebounder on the team, and probably will be sooner rather than later.

champswest

October 25th, 2017 at 3:42 PM ^

They are both young. 

I like that this team has a lot of competition for minutes. Due to injuries and lack of depth, the last few years have not seen players being pushed,(except by walk-ons). Now we have real competition at the 1 and 4. Teske and Davis are going to be fighting for the back up minutes at the 5. Brooks could be taking minutes at the 2. And if Livers can earn minutes at the 4 it will free up Robinson to push for minutes at the 3. Steele sharpens steele.

Bertello NC

October 25th, 2017 at 9:22 PM ^

Two guys I’m anxious about are Watson and Teske. There was a lot of talk about some serious gains Watson made in the off season. If he can add some depth to the 2 or 3 it’d be great.
Teske looked unsure of himself and was like hot potato with the ball in his hands last year. I’m excited to see if he’s gained strength, comfortability with the offense and will possibly be a little more of a threat on O. Hate to see a guy 7’1” stuffed away on the bench. He could come up big with certain matchups.
I agree with others in that I’m hoping Livers is ready to play now. Would like to see him get the nod for the 4 and Robinson come off the bench for some quick fire power from deep. Unlikely at least for probably the first quarter of the season but defensively and for rebounding purposes I see Livers having the leg up.

MfanItalia

October 26th, 2017 at 1:17 AM ^

in the Beilein system.  This was a huge acquisition and game changer for the team this year. I'm surprised the polls don't reflect this, but it will be fun to watch this team ascend.