Upon Further Review 2010: Defense vs Michigan State
Substitution notes: Black got some more playing time this week, seeing passing downs. He also got an entire drive in the third quarter. It was MSU's last touchdown drive and he was a big reason it happened, unfortunately. The rest of the line was as normal, with Patterson sometimes spotting Martin and RVB a constant. Roh was more DE than LB this week and played most of the game; Fitzgerald had maybe half a dozen snaps. At linebacker it was Gordon, Ezeh, and Mouton the whole way.
In the secondary, Cullen Christian came in for Rogers when he went out with a cramp. After Christian gave up an easy long touchdown they replaced him with Talbott. Avery saw time in the nickel and dime packages.
Formation notes: A significant shift. After playing almost no four man fronts against Indiana they played mostly 4-4 against MSU. The defense looked a lot like last year's. Michigan went to a nickel package early, replacing Thomas Gordon with Avery, but later they just left Gordon out there.
MSU did this thing:
I called that "full house," FWIW. I'm pretty sure that's not right but whateva, I nomenclature how I want.
Show:
Ln | Dn | Ds | O Form | D Form | Type | Rush | Play | Player | Yards | ||||||||||
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O20 | 1 | 10 | Ace twins | Base 4-4 | Run | ? | Zone stretch | T. Gordon | 4 | ||||||||||
Eight man front with a standard 4-3 even alignment for the LBs and Kovacs hanging out on the backside; MSU runs at Roh and Thomas Gordon. Some three guys sort of block RVB, getting slightly down the line and then popping a guy out on Ezeh. This leaves T. Gordon totally unblocked but he overruns the play(-1), allowing a cutback; Martin(+1) had avoided a cut and comes from behind to tackle as the RB crosses the LOS. They fall forward. | |||||||||||||||||||
O24 | 2 | 6 | Ace 3-wide | Nickel | Pass | N/A | Bubble screen | Rogers | 7 | ||||||||||
Avery in for Gordon as MSU goes three wide; Michigan shows man coverage and one-high with Avery tracking the WR across the field when he goes in motion. Rogers is focused on his man so does not see the play developing and sucks inside on the WR until he blocks Avery, at which point he chases down Martin but not before the first down. (RPS -1, Rogers -0.5) | |||||||||||||||||||
O33 | 1 | 10 | Ace twins | Base 4-4 | Run | ? | Power off tackle | Roh | 0 | ||||||||||
MSU pulls a TE across the formation to overload the short side. Dangerous as T. Gordon is going with the TE to that side in man coverage and he gets a block on Ezeh, effectively getting a 2 for 1. Roh(+2) takes on a block from the motioning TE and comes through it, grabbing the back at the LOS and tackling there; Mouton(+0.5) attacked the play and got his guy back far enough that there's no way for the RB to fall forward. | |||||||||||||||||||
O33 | 2 | 10 | Shotgun 3-wide | 3-3-5 stack | Pass | 4 | Out | Floyd | 14 | ||||||||||
Okay, so Kovacs doesn't quite get out in the flat fast enough to prevent this throw from being completed but with Floyd in a cover three behind it this should be five yards and a third and medium. Floyd(-2, cover -2) instead starts chasing inside against a TE he has no shot at and opens this up for an easy first down. | |||||||||||||||||||
O47 | 1 | 10 | Ace 3-wide | Base 4-4 | Run | ? | Power off tackle | Ezeh | 3 | ||||||||||
Er. This is dangerously close to breaking through the line because Ezeh(-1) reads the play wrong and ends up running right into the last lead blocker; Mouton had hopped out to close off a gap further outside. Banks(+0.5) had managed to fight through his double and caused some linemen to fall; Ezeh gets pancaked but the hole's narrow enough that the RB trips over a mess of bodies. Video clipped for Ezeh complaint complainers. | |||||||||||||||||||
50 | 2 | 7 | Ace | Base 4-4 | Penalty | ? | False start | ? | -5 | ||||||||||
Oops | |||||||||||||||||||
O45 | 2 | 12 | Shotgun 3-wide | 3-3-5 stack | Run | Power off tackle | Mouton | -1 | |||||||||||
Michigan blitzes right into the run play, sending Banks on a slant past the playside T and blitzing Mouton and Kovacs from the backside. Martin(+1) zips past the center and bumps the pulling G, knocking him back into the RB and allowing Mouton(+0.5) and Kovacs(+0.5) to converge and tackle, though they do allow the RB to get two almost impossible yards. This is the kind of stuff our tailbacks have not done this year. (RPS +1) | |||||||||||||||||||
O44 | 3 | 13 | Shotgun trips bunch | 3-2-6 dime | Pass | 4 | Throwaway | Martin | Inc | ||||||||||
Michigan aided by Cousins momentarily fumbling the snap. Michigan uses Roh as a blitzer up the middle on a stunt, which gets Martin(+1, pressure +1, RPS +1) around the C. He then makes the back miss and forces Cousins to scramble and throw the ball away. Black(+0.5) also drew a holding flag, though it was more poor play from the MSU OL than dominance. BWS picture paged this. | |||||||||||||||||||
Drive Notes: Punt, 0-0, 7 min 1st Q. | |||||||||||||||||||
Ln | Dn | Ds | O Form | D Form | Type | Rush | Play | Player | Yards | ||||||||||
O28 | 1 | 10 | Ace | 3-3-5 stack | Pass | 3 | PA TE seam | C. Gordon | 34 | ||||||||||
Plenty of time with the PA and a three man rush(pressure –2); Mouton(+1, cover +1) gets a really good drop that forces Cousins to toss a lob over his head and should set up a Cam Gordon INT or killshot; instead he takes a looping route too deep, allowing the TE to catch the ball just in front of Floyd. He hits Floyd, but Floyd(+0.5) does bang him to the ground, preventing a TD. Gordon gets -3. The coverage stays +1 since because of the good drop from Mouton this window was really tight and could have been nonexistent. | |||||||||||||||||||
M38 | 1 | 10 | Shotgun trips TE | Nickel | Run | ? | PA power off tackle | Martin | 3 (Pen -10) | ||||||||||
M shows man. MSU fakes a bubble and runs an off tackle power play from the shotgun. Martin(+1) shoots into the backfield as there's no one blocking him—guard pulls—and he doesn't buy the fake. He shoves the G and forces the RB outside of the intended hole. Roh(+1) sets up outside and would be in position to do something about the bounce but is thrown to the ground, drawing a holding call. This opens up the corner. Ezeh is out there--not sure if this is good play or good fortune that the intended hole is gone because he gets blasted pretty good. He does force the RB inside where Martin cleans up from behind. | |||||||||||||||||||
M48 | 1 | 20 | Ace trips TE | Nickel | Pass | 6 | Sack | Van Bergen | -12 | ||||||||||
MSU goes play action and Cousins sets up deep in the pocket; Van Bergen(+3) beats an offensive tackle and shoots straight up the middle of said pocket, sacking Cousins for a huge loss. (Pressure +2) | |||||||||||||||||||
O40 | 2 | 32 | Shotgun 3-wide | Nickel | Pass | 6 | Out | Rogers | Inc | ||||||||||
PA rollout. Ezeh(+1) is in man coverage on the TE, I believe, and when Kovacs attacks upfield, drawing him inside, Ezeh attacks, forcing a quick throw (pressure +1). Rogers(+2, cover +2) is there to break it up. | |||||||||||||||||||
O40 | 3 | 32 | Shotgun 3-wide | 3-2-6 dime | Pass | 3 | Slant | Mouton | 11 | ||||||||||
Dangerous pass from Cousins just in front of Roh but on the money. It's ten yards downfield, though, so BFD. Mouton(+1, tackling +1) delivers a big hit to finish it. | |||||||||||||||||||
Drive Notes: Punt, 3-0, 14 min 2nd Q. What a quarter. I bet the rest of this game goes just as well. | |||||||||||||||||||
Ln | Dn | Ds | O Form | D Form | Type | Rush | Play | Player | Yards | ||||||||||
O16 | 1 | 10 | Ace twins twin TE | Base 4-3 | Run | ? | Zone stretch | Ezeh | 8 + 15 pen | ||||||||||
Triple guh on a stick. Roh(+0.5) and RVB(+0.5) do a good job of stringing this out; Ezeh is fast enough to prevent the C from sealing him. He takes a hit and stays on his feet, flowing down into the hole Baker is about to hit. If he just runs parallel to the LOS he has the guy or he has him cutting back into Mouton; instead he takes an upfield angle and whiffs a tackle, but not before he yanks the facemask(-2, tackling -1). C. Gordon(-0.5, tackling -1) comes up for a killshot after four yards but doesn't wrap up; Baker bounces off. The delay is enough for Kovacs and Rogers to combine to tackle; Baker drags the pile four yards. Michigan has just failed to convert on a third and one because Vincent Smith couldn't drag one guy one yard, FWIW. The difference here is stark. | |||||||||||||||||||
O39 | 1 | 10 | Ace twins twin TE | Base 4-4 | Run | ? | Zone stretch | Martin | 61 | ||||||||||
Man, I don't know. Martin(-2) heads upfield, which allows MSU to easily scoop him and get a center out on Mouton unmolested. Mouton takes a shove from him, then another shove from a second OL who has messed up his assignment and is just pushing the nearest player. He gets shoved backwards and out of the play but this is not his fault at all. Banks(-3) is getting way too far upfield; on a stretch like this when you realize you are backside you flow down the LOS, disengaging from the OL and giving up ground if you have to so that on a cutback you are in position to make a tackle a few yards downfield. Banks does not do this, instead getting upfield and falling. Doom. Baker sees the unblocked guys on the frontside and slams it up in the hole Martin and Banks provided, and then he's gone. I guess I blame Gordon(-2) for not getting the cutback angle here but Baker got through a big hole immediately and is gone; he's not the main issue. (RPS –2; I'll explain later.) | |||||||||||||||||||
Drive Notes: Touchdown, 3-7, 11 min 2nd Q. | |||||||||||||||||||
Ln | Dn | Ds | O Form | D Form | Type | Rush | Play | Player | Yards | ||||||||||
O22 | 1 | 10 | Ace twins twin TE | Base 4-4 | Run | ? | Power off tackle | Van Bergen | 3 | ||||||||||
MSU blocks down on RVB and tries to hit the gap by kicking out Roh and pulling the backside H-back around to pick off Gordon. RVB(+0.5) comes under a block and forces the back a little further outside, where T. Gordon(+0.5) has fended off the TE who was attempting to block down on no one and then peeled off on him, tackling as the back approaches the LOS. | |||||||||||||||||||
O25 | 2 | 7 | Shotgun trips | 3-3-5 stack | Pass | 3 | Screen | Floyd | -3 | ||||||||||
Bell initially split out, then motions into the backfield. MSU runs a screen that JT Floyd(+2, tackling +1) reads and attacks, arriving as the ball does and tacking Bell down in the backfield. Martin(+0.5) was also there as he'd read it and flowed with the interior OL. (RPS +1, MSU was banking on man I think.) | |||||||||||||||||||
O22 | 3 | 10 | Shotgun 3-wide | Nickel | Penalty | ? | False start | ? | -5 | ||||||||||
The false start on which Michigan sends the house and gets a dumpoff that Kovacs tackles on. | |||||||||||||||||||
O17 | 3 | 15 | Shotgun 3-wide | 4-1-6 dime | Pass | 4 | Slant | Talbott | 18 | ||||||||||
MSU throws a give-up-and-punt slant that MSU's Martin turns into a first down by cutting all the way across the field. I'm not sure who or what to blame. I guess Mouton(-1) gets too far downfield and allows the first cutback and then Talbott(-2) does the same thing but it's even more damaging because he's the outside guy and has to force Martin into his help. Once Martin goes around him upfield Kovacs is easy prey for blockers and Martin has room to pick up the first on the corner. Woo freshmen cornerbacks. (Tackling –2) | |||||||||||||||||||
O35 | 1 | 10 | Ace | Base 4-4 | Pass | 7 | PA Fly | Rogers | Inc | ||||||||||
Receiver with a step but Rogers(+1, cover +1) is in pretty good position so this ball has to be perfect. It's not. Michigan sent so many because they were in man free and two guys stayed in; T. Gordon(+0.5) took a good run at Cousins and may have caused the long throw. (Pressure +1) | |||||||||||||||||||
O35 | 2 | 10 | Shotgun trips TE | Base 4-4 | Pass | N/A | Bubble screen | C. Gordon | 11 + 15 pen | ||||||||||
Rogers(+0.5) attacks this quickly and gets walled off by the receiver but his reaction has pulled the blocker upfield and created a lane for Cam Gordon to flow and finish the play. Gordon(-1, tackling -1) whiffs the tackle, turning 3-4 yards into a first down; Rogers then gets a facemask penalty on top of everything. | |||||||||||||||||||
M39 | 1 | 10 | I-form | Base 4-4 | Run | ? | Yakety sax | ? | -2 | ||||||||||
Fumbled snap. MSU recovers. | |||||||||||||||||||
M41 | 2 | 12 | Ace 3-wide | Nickel | Run | ? | Inside zone | Patterson | 41 | ||||||||||
So on this play Fitzgerald is in for Roh at DE and Patterson in for Martin. RVB is between them. Patterson(-3) is completely obliterated, getting sealed and kicked down the line by a scoop block; Mouton is cut off by a guy who had an easy release at him. Ezeh is again shooting into the outside gap. He did that on the 61 yard run, the first snap of this drive, and on this. Alternatives: Ezeh is a total idiot who keeps doing something he's not supposed to do or this is the scheme because of man coverage. I know I called this clever when Martin was in but here you've got Adam Patterson, who is very liable to have this happen, in and it seems obvious that you should play this way more conservatively. RPS –3. | |||||||||||||||||||
Drive Notes: Touchdown, 10-14, 4 min 2nd Q. | |||||||||||||||||||
Ln | Dn | Ds | O Form | D Form | Type | Rush | Play | Player | Yards | ||||||||||
O41 | 1 | 10 | Ace | 3-3-5 stack | Run | ? | Power off tackle | Mouton | 13 | ||||||||||
Banks(-1) blown out of the hole and does not require a double so a TE has an angle on Ezeh and blocks him. Kovacs and Mouton are on the edge and Mouton(-1) takes the wrong shoulder of his blocker; with Kovacs outside of him he needs to funnel the play to that guy instead of getting locked out of the play and giving MSU a crease. He's through into the secondary, bowling over guys for some YAC. | |||||||||||||||||||
M46 | 1 | 10 | Shotgun H-back | Base 4-3 | Run | ? | Counter off tackle | Mouton | 2 | ||||||||||
Counter step from the back then they run a power play off the right side of the line. Banks(+1) reads the guy blocking down on someone else and gets into a pulling G, forcing the play outside. This time Mouton+(0.5) and Kovacs(+0.5) come on opposite sides of the lead blocker and give the RB nowhere to go, tackling him at the LOS. | |||||||||||||||||||
M44 | 2 | 8 | Ace twins twin TE | Base 4-4 | Pass | 4 | TE flat | Kovacs | Inc | ||||||||||
Three step drop pass to the TE in front of Kovacs in the flat; dropped. Probably turned up for five-ish if caught before Kovacs knocks him OOB. | |||||||||||||||||||
M44 | 3 | 8 | Shotgun trips | Nickel | Pass | 4 | Dumpoff | Ezeh | 5 | ||||||||||
First read is covered(+1) and then Black(+0.5) vaguely threatens Cousins, causing him to start moving around, at which point Martin is going to get to him so he has to dump it off to a covered(+1) RB. He's covered by Ezeh(-1, tackling -1) who misses a tackle at the LOS. Secondary converges to tackle short of the sticks, but the five yards given up allows MSU to go for it on fourth down. | |||||||||||||||||||
M39 | 4 | 3 | Shotgun 4-wide | 3-3-5 stack | Pass | 3 | Hitch | Mouton | 10 | ||||||||||
Mouton(-1, cover -1) gets too deep and opens up a quick hitch MSU takes. Kovacs was in the area but had to drop on the outside receiver. | |||||||||||||||||||
M29 | 1 | 10 | Shotgun 3-wide | 3-3-5 stack | Pass | 4 | Hitch | Kovacs | 4 | ||||||||||
Hitch at the sidelines is open and complete. The receiver is taken OOB by the throw with Kovacs coming in to tackle. No +/- on four yard passes. | |||||||||||||||||||
M25 | 2 | 6 | Shotgun 3-wide | Nickel | Pass | 7 | Sack | Martin | -10 | ||||||||||
Martin(+2) blows through the center's attempted block and comes right up the middle just as Cousins tries a pump fake. Cousins has to roll out, at which point Roh(+2) comes around the tackle to sack. (Pressure +3) | |||||||||||||||||||
M35 | 3 | 16 | Shotgun empty | 3-2-6 dime | Pass | 3 | Bubble screen | Rogers | 14 | ||||||||||
Michigan playing way off to get the stop so plenty of room. This gets dangerously close to the first down because Rogers(-1) let Martin outside of him; could have been a longer field goal if this was played better | |||||||||||||||||||
Drive Notes: FG(38), 10-17, 1 min 2nd Q. | |||||||||||||||||||
Ln | Dn | Ds | O Form | D Form | Type | Rush | Play | Player | Yards | ||||||||||
O32 | 1 | 10 | Ace | Base 4-4 | Pass | 6? | PA TE cross | Kovacs | 15 | ||||||||||
Kovacs(+1, pressure +1) is blitzing off the edge to contain the QB and prevent play action from hitting deep. He does contain Cousins, forcing him to throw a looper off his back foot that's way high of the tight end. TE gets a hand on it and deflects it high enough for Keshawn Martin to catch the deflection on a ball that would have one-hopped to him. Rogers literally eight yards off of Martin as he catches it, but that was because of a cramp. Cullen Christian replaces him after the play. | |||||||||||||||||||
O47 | 1 | 10 | Full house | 3-3-5 stack | Run | ? | Counter off tackle | Roh | 6 | ||||||||||
This is an I-formation with another tailback next to the FB; probably not what this is actually called. MSU fakes an outside pitch and pulls a guard around to run a conventional power play. Martin gets a good push but is momentarily sealed away from the ball; guard gets a free release on Ezeh and blocks him, though Ezeh's in pretty decent position. T. Gordon(+0.5) comes up and hits the outside shoulder of the lead blocker, leaving the tailback for Roh, except Roh(-1) got suckered by the fake and went the wrong way around Ezeh. C. Gordon comes up to make another tackle, this one somewhat iffy. | |||||||||||||||||||
M47 | 2 | 4 | Ace twins twin TE | Base 4-4 | Run | ? | Zone stretch | Ezeh | 6 | ||||||||||
An aggressive RVB(-1) is cut to the ground on the backside, opening up a large cutback lane when nothing opens up on the frontside. This time Ezeh scrapes down the line gently and tackles the back. No plus since he's stationary and accepts a blow; he could have gotten more aggressive and held this down? I'm happy enough that he just makes a tackle, I guess. | |||||||||||||||||||
M41 | 1 | 10 | Ace twins twin TE | Base 4-4 | Pass | N/A | Bubble screen | T. Gordon | 0 | ||||||||||
T. Gordon(+2) is the slot LB as Michigan shows zone. He gets out on the WR at the LOS, tackling(+1) for no gain. | |||||||||||||||||||
M41 | 2 | 10 | Full house | Base 4-4 | Pass | 6 | PA Fly | Christian | 41 | ||||||||||
Why the hell is Cullen Christian the guy in man coverage on a receiver running a fly route? Why isn't it Floyd? Christian(-3, cover –3, RPS -2) is smoked crispy as he bites on an out and up gives up the touchdown. Roh was about to hit Cousins but no matter. | |||||||||||||||||||
Drive Notes: Touchdown,10-24, 12 min 3rd Q. For that matter, why is Christian in the game instead of Avery? | |||||||||||||||||||
Ln | Dn | Ds | O Form | D Form | Type | Rush | Play | Player | Yards | ||||||||||
O7 | 1 | 10 | Ace twins | Base 4-4 | Run | ? | Zone stretch | Black | 11 | ||||||||||
Another cutback lane opened up by the backside DE not flowing down the line properly. Black(-2) is playside of his blocker but instead of heading along or slightly off the LOS he heads a yard into the backfield and can only wave an arm at Bell. A yard downfield and he's forcing a cutback all the way behind the backside tackle into an unblocked Kovacs. Floyd keeps contain and forces the tailback into Gordon(+0.5), who makes a good tackle(+1). | |||||||||||||||||||
O18 | 1 | 10 | I-form twins | Base 4-4 | Run | Zone stretch | Martin | 4 | |||||||||||
MSU tries to scoop Martin again; this time he does not get sealed by the guard and flows down the line; the C pops out on Ezeh and cuts him. Martin(+0.5) is fast enough to tackle(+1) after a few yards. Black(-0.5) was unable to get off a block to help. | |||||||||||||||||||
O22 | 2 | 6 | Ace trips TE | Base 4-4 | Run | Zone stretch | Martin | 4 | |||||||||||
Martin(+2) owns the center and is going to blow this up in the backfield when he's tackled from behind. No call. As a result there's a gap. Mouton(+1) stands up a guard and sheds him to the playside, forcing the back into Floyd, who makes a tackle but gives up a yard or two after contact. | |||||||||||||||||||
O26 | 3 | 2 | Ace twins | Base 4-4 | Run | Zone stretch | Black | 4 | |||||||||||
Michigan completely crushes the frontside of this play with RVB(+0.5) and Martin(+0.5) getting playside of guys but Black(-2) is hurled to the ground on the backside, opening up yet another cutback lane. Mouton(+1) does a valiant job to shut it down but the RB has all the momentum and the pile falls forward. | |||||||||||||||||||
O30 | 1 | 10 | I-form unbalanced | Base 4-4 | Pass | 4 | PA throwaway | Kovacs? | Inc | ||||||||||
First option covered(+1) with M in zone. Kovacs, Ezeh, Roh all +0.5 for good drops. The DL then drives through the OL and gets to Cousins somewhat quickly, causing a throwaway. | |||||||||||||||||||
O30 | 2 | 10 | Ace | Base 4-4 | Run | Zone stretch | Kovacs | 8 | |||||||||||
RVB(+1) slants into the play, blowing it up and forcing a cutback. Black(-1) is yet again blocked to the ground, leaving a cutback lane; Kovacs(-1) still has an opportunity to make a tackle(-1) at the LOS but misses it. Bell then runs through another tackle from Floyd(-0.5, tackling -1), turning four into eight. | |||||||||||||||||||
O38 | 3 | 2 | Ace | Base 4-4 | Run | Power off tackle | Ezeh | 11 | |||||||||||
Ezeh guh. This is supposed to go the TE side of the line, MSU brings the other TE in motion for use as an H-back but RVB(+1) stands up the OL and comes through as Bell approaches the line, forcing a cutback that's there because Martin(-1) got pushed out of the hole. Still, because Black(+0.5) slanted into the backside and occupied two blockers no one is blocking Ezeh(-2) at all, but instead of running through the window in the line and meeting Bell at the LOS he does the Ezeh sit-and-wonder. He's so slow here that not only does he not prevent a first down, he doesn't even touch Bell as he shoots through a tiny gap on a cutback, leaving C. Gordon to make a desperate tackle in a ton of space against a tailback who wasn't even delayed when he shot upfield. | |||||||||||||||||||
O49 | 1 | 10 | Wildcat | Base 4-4 | Pass | N/A | Reverse trickery | C. Gordon | 42 | ||||||||||
Cam Gordon(-3, cover -3) sucks up despite the fact they're pitching a reverse to THE QUARTERBACK. Floyd(+0.5) does manage to track the guy down. | |||||||||||||||||||
M9 | 1 | G | I-form big | 3-3-5 stack | Run | Power off tackle | Sagesse | 2 | |||||||||||
Sagesse(+1) slants under the tackle and into the path of the play, absorbing a pulling blocker and still popping up in the hole. He causes a delay that Mouton(+0.5) picks through the wash to finish; Ezeh was also there but a step slower. | |||||||||||||||||||
M7 | 2 | G | I-form big | 3-3-5 stack | Run | Power off tackle | Banks | 7 | |||||||||||
Banks(-2) obliterated in one on one blocking by the Spartan RT. Ezeh(-0.5) accepts a block from the TE and doesn't come close to shedding it. C. Gordon(-1, tackling -1) makes contact at the four and his tackle is run through as he tries to drag Caper down. | |||||||||||||||||||
Drive Notes: Touchdown, 10-31, 4 min 3rd Q. This is totally demoralizing and almost entirely the fault of Black and Gordon, two freshmen. | |||||||||||||||||||
O18 | 1 | 10 | Ace twins | Base 4-4 | Run | Zone stretch | Martin | -1 | |||||||||||
Hey, they adjust, probably after getting chewed out on the sideline. Martin(+1) slices through blockers and forces a cutback; T. Gordon(+1) also shot past a blocker and into a gap. Mouton(+0.5) and Banks(+0.5) have not been blocked into oblivion this time and converge to tackle. | |||||||||||||||||||
O17 | 2 | 11 | Full house | 3-3-5 stack | Run | Zone stretch | Mouton? | 2 | |||||||||||
No holes with Banks(+0.5) holding up to a double and Mouton(+0.5) slamming into the playside TE. No cutback available with RVB(+0.5) avoiding a cut and Roh hitting it up into the B gap; the play is strung all the way out to the sideline where Floyd boots the RB OOB. | |||||||||||||||||||
O19 | 3 | 9 | Shotgun 3-wide | Nickel | Pass | 6 | TE slant | Kovacs | 6 | ||||||||||
Replica of the play that Michigan got MSU off the field with except for a false start: M bring six, Cousins has to get rid of it, Kovacs(+1, tackling +1) allows the catch but tackles three yards short of the sticks. (Pressure +1) | |||||||||||||||||||
Drive Notes: Punt, 10-31, 1 min 3rd Q. | |||||||||||||||||||
Ln | Dn | Ds | O Form | D Form | Type | Rush | Play | Player | Yards | ||||||||||
O24 | 1 | 10 | Ace | 3-3-5 stack | Pass | 5 | PA throwaway | Van Bergen | Inc | ||||||||||
Van Bergen(+1) isn't buying the run fake and is instead heading directly upfield at Cousins. When he turns around he's got DE in his face and chucks it away. Could be grounding but there are receivers vaguely in the area. (RPS +1, pressure +1) | |||||||||||||||||||
O24 | 2 | 10 | I-form twins | 3-3-5 stack | Run | Iso | Mouton | -1 | |||||||||||
Martin(+1) chucks past the center ridiculously fast and gets playside of a guard, driving into the play. Mouton(+2) defeats a block and shows up in the hole. Martin means no cutback and Mouton tackles with help from Kovacs and his man getting into the RB's legs. | |||||||||||||||||||
O23 | 3 | 11 | Shotgun trips | 4-1-6 dime | Pass | Drag | Van Bergen | 7 | |||||||||||
Michigan runs the same stunt they did earlier in the game with Roh attacking in the middle and Martin pulling around; this time Black is also rushing through the same gap and a bunch of feet get tangled and everyone falls. RVB(+1) is coming around the outside, though, and Cousins has to throw short because deep options are covered(+1); a dumpoff to Dell is tackled short by Avery and Talbott. | |||||||||||||||||||
Drive Notes: Punt, 17-31, 13 min 4th Q. | |||||||||||||||||||
Ln | Dn | Ds | O Form | D Form | Type | Rush | Play | Player | Yards | ||||||||||
O27 | 1 | 10 | I-form | Base 4-4 | Run | End around | Mouton | 15 | |||||||||||
Actually a great job by Kovacs(+1) to see the end-around fake coming and get upfield; he ends up taking both blockers out of the play. Mouton(-2) is running at the tailback and sees that he doesn't have the ball but for some reason steps inside and then comes up too fast, losing leverage and allowing Martin the gap that he hits. Gordon(-1) comes up and misses a tackle(-1); the secondary manages to stop it after another six yards. | |||||||||||||||||||
O42 | 1 | 10 | Ace twins twin TE | 3-3-5 stack | Run | Power off tackle | Mouton | 0 | |||||||||||
Michigan slanting away from the play so Banks gets shoved way down the line; Mouton(+2) is blitzing. He manages to slide under the attempted down block of the TE. He's into the backfield quickly enough to take on the inside shoulder of the second lead blocker and push him back into the RB's path. Mouton can't make the difficult tackle but the delay is substantial; Martin and Kovacs get him at the line. | |||||||||||||||||||
O42 | 2 | 10 | Full house | 3-3-5 stack | Run | Counter | Ezeh? | 8 | |||||||||||
Same play as earlier with the off tackle fake coupled with a counter coming underneath. T. Gordon(-1) is blitzing and takes off after the QB. I'm not sure what the LB responsibilities are but I think they're in man on their guys and Ezeh(-0.5) does not read the guy coming across the formation fast enough, getting blocked; Roh(-0.5) splits the minus because he's the LB to that side and is no faster despite not getting blocked. (RPS –1) | |||||||||||||||||||
50 | 3 | 2 | Ace | Base 4-4 | Run | Power off tackle | Ezeh | 3 | |||||||||||
They double Martin and neither guy gets out; RVB is the playside DT and gets blocked out of a small hole. Mouton, Roh, and Gordon are cutting off the frontside so there's just one hole to take. It is taken. Ezeh is there, meeting him after a yard… RB gets two more. This isn't exactly a bad play by anyone but this is the difference between a really good LB and a guy who's just a yard or two worse on a consistent basis. Michigan had this set up for a stop. They didn't get it. | |||||||||||||||||||
M47 | 1 | 10 | Ace twins | Base 4-4 | Pass | 6 | PA Corner | C. Gordon | 45 | ||||||||||
Motion drops Floyd back into a deep safety spot as C. Gordon comes up to the line. He and T. Gordon end up playing almost in the same spot because of? I don't know. I don't know what the coverage is supposed to be but it leaves a guy on a corner route wide open (cover -2). Could be Cam's fault or Terrance Talbott. Talbott(-1, tackling -1) whiffs a tackle to get this down to the two. | |||||||||||||||||||
M2 | 1 | G | Goal line | Goal line | Run | Zone stretch | Demens | 1 (Pen -15) | |||||||||||
RVB(+0.5) holds up to a double decently and is flowing down the line in the vicinity of the POA when the RB cuts up. Guy pops out on Ezeh, delaying him; Floyd is taking on the FB, so there's nowhere to go. Momentum and thudding power might get this into the endzone but Demens(+1) has come from his deep LB position in the goal line package, shooting through the gap between RVB and Campbell to tackle. Chop block brings it back anyway. | |||||||||||||||||||
M17 | 1 | G | I-form big | 3-3-5 stack | Pass | 6 | Waggle | Kovacs | Inc | ||||||||||
Kovacs(+1) reads the TE leaking out into the flat—similar play to the Webb touchdown—and covers it(+1); Cousins comes off his primary read. Ezeh(+1, cover +1) is all over the other TE; Cousins throws it high and basically away. (Pressure -1) | |||||||||||||||||||
M17 | 2 | G | Ace twins twin TE | Base 4-4 | Run | Edge pitch | Kovacs | 2 | |||||||||||
Kovacs(+1) avoids a cut and gets into Cunningham, which allows Floyd to run up hard to the outside and forces a cutback. A chasing Banks(+0.5) and Ezeh converge. | |||||||||||||||||||
M15 | 3 | G | Shotgun empty | 3-2-6 dime | Pass | N/A | Bubble screen | Talbott | 2 | ||||||||||
Give up and punt; Nichol actually at QB on this play for whatever reason. Talbott(+1) does a good job of stringing it out, FWIW. | |||||||||||||||||||
Drive Notes: FG(34), 17-34. Final drive is after game is over and is not charted. |
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Just look at the first quarter, man. Time ceased after that.
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Let's just get this over with, then? Chart?
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Chart?
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Chart.
Defensive Line | ||||
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Player | + | - | T | Notes |
Van Bergen | 9.5 | 1 | 8.5 | One impact sack, some additional pressure, solid against the run. Good player. |
Martin | 11.5 | 3 | 8.5 | A good performance, but coming down from his ridiculous nonconference level. |
Banks | 3 | 6 | -3 | Didn't do well, pulled for Black, who did worse. |
Sagesse | 1 | - | 1 | One good slant. |
Patterson | - | 3 | -3 | Killed to bits on second long TD for MSU. |
Black | 1.5 | 5.5 | -4 | Pancaked multiple times on drive where he got most of his PT. |
Campbell | - | - | - | One goal line play. |
TOTAL | 26.5 | 18.5 | 8 | This week Roh was mostly DE so his +4.5 factors in here. Story: two good players and not a lot of help. |
Linebacker | ||||
Player | + | - | T | Notes |
Ezeh | 2 | 6.5 | -4.5 | Sigh. |
Mouton | 11 | 5 | 6 | At least he's turned it around. |
Roh | 6 | 1.5 | 4.5 | Wasn't a liability in the run game against a pounding team. |
Johnson | - | - | - | DNP. Has apparently lost out to… |
T. Gordon | 4 | 2.5 | 1.5 | Doing fine for a freshman. |
Leach | - | - | - | DNP |
Moundros | - | - | - | DNP |
Demens | 1 | - | 1 | Goal line only, again. |
Herron | - | - | - | DNP |
Fitzgerald | - | - | - | Did not get minus for long TD but I'm sure having him in couldn't have helped. |
TOTAL | 24 | 14.5 | 8.5 | Actual LBs: Mouton good, Ezeh bad, Gordon neutral. |
Secondary | ||||
Player | + | - | T | Notes |
Floyd | 2.5 | 3 | -0.5 | Not victimized. |
Rogers | 3.5 | 1.5 | 2 | Theory about displacement: fail. |
Kovacs | 6.5 | 1 | 5.5 | Such a weird player. |
C. Gordon | - | 11.5 | -11.5 | Of course. |
Talbott | 1 | 3 | -2 | Martin third down conversion largely on him. |
Christian | - | 3 | -3 | Crispy. |
Avery | - | - | - | Didn't register. Yay? |
Ray Vinopal | - | - | - | DNP |
TOTAL | 13.5 | 23 | -9.5 | Less grim than the Chappellbombing. Still grim. |
Metrics | ||||
Pressure | 11 | 5 | 6 | Lot of max pro PA. |
Coverage | 10 | 11 | -1 | Big hits; underneath okay. |
Tackling | 6 | 13 | -7 | Very, very bad. |
RPS | 4 | 7 | -3 | Bad. |
[RPS is "rock, paper, scissors." Michigan gets a + when they call a play that makes it very easy for them to defend the opponent, like getting a free blitzer. They get a – when they call a play that makes it very difficult for them to defend the opponent, like showing a seven-man blitz and having Penn State get easy touchdowns twice.]
So. That's a major falloff from the defensive line. RVB and Martin acquired above-average days and Roh was decent. The other guys combined for –9, which is really really bad. I think this bore out in the substitution pattern, too: Banks wasn't playing well so they tried out Black, who played worse, so they went back to Banks.
At linebacker, the usual. Thomas Gordon continues to impress by not doing anything particularly wrong. If Carvin Johnson was really good enough to beat him out before the season Michigan should be set at spur for a long time.
In the secondary, Kovacs is good, and the starting corners weren't a disaster. Everyone else… ugh.
Aaaargh GERG ffffuuuuuuu?
I don't know. I don't think I'll know at all this year. If you look at how Michigan State gashed Michigan the thing that jumps out is the shocking youth of the offenders. By touchdown drive:
- Ezeh takes bad angle on first play, tacks on facemask. On second play Martin and Banks fail; Cam Gordon turns large gain into touchdown.
- Talbott lets Martin outside of him on third and fifteen to give up a conversion. Cam misses a tackle on a bubble screen, robbing Michigan of an opportunity at third and medium. Patterson is destroyed on a 41-yard touchdown with a bizarre scheme that sees Ezeh fly out of the middle of the field.
- Fluke tipped completion, two six yard runs veterans are responsible for, Cullen Christian burned deep after Rogers goes out.
- Jibreel Black is a cutback-conceding machine on the drive he plays every snap of. Ezeh does his sit-and-wonder on a run of moderate length. Cam sucks up on the trick play. MSU finishes the drive by blowing up Banks and shedding another Gordon tackle.
Gordon was also responsible for taking a bad angle on the TE seam on MSU's second drive. That should have been an interception but he overreacted to his error from the Notre Dame game and played the angle too conservatively. We have one usual suspect in Ezeh. The other players largely responsible for the touchdowns are two freshman cornerbacks, a freshman defensive end, and redshirt freshman and position switch starter Cam Gordon. Oh, and Adam Patterson, a fifth year senior who's never played before this year.
I do wonder what the hell this was supposed to accomplish:
I know I called it "clever" in the picture pages when Martin was in but that's the same scheme with Adam Patterson in the game. I thought it was clever because it was relying on your best defensive player not to make a major error—Martin did that one time and Michigan got burned, okay. Doing it with Adam Patterson in the game is asking to get touchdown in your face, and Michigan got touchdown it its face. This was not Ezeh's fault. I watched him do this all day; he did it on the first touchdown, then went to the sideline and did it two more times on the next drive. If he had screwed something up they would have corrected it or benched him, right?
Michigan went away from this later but here's why you just tell Ezeh to do something and hope it works:
Maybe that's a cutback he's not expecting but good lord, find the gap in the line and hit it. Even if you're slow an arm tackle slows the guy down. For him to not even touch the tailback there is dangerous, as Gordon has to come up fast and almost misses a tackle with his dodgy technique. Here, and often in this game, RBs were untouched into the secondary, though, and when that happens your safety is under enormous pressure.
Something in the same vein:
Michigan has that stopped. They have a third and two and have forced the tailback to run through a tiny window filled with an unblocked middle linebacker, but Ezeh is hesitant like always and catches the tailback. He never hits anyone.
Demens any different?
I have no idea. Here's your sum total of Demens hope:
His job in the goal line package is to come from way deep and flow to the hole. This is of interest because look how WVU aligned their linebackers back in the day:
That's way off the line. Michigan has not done this yet but it might be something to try since Demens has been doing that in the goal line package, and doing it well.
Other scheme complaints?
It was insane to put Cullen Christian on an island against BJ Cunningham in a one-receiver formation. JT Floyd was in overhang mode against a TE; why not put your non-true-freshman on the receiver?
So I'm not entirely happy with GERG. But I'm also not sure what the hell you're supposed to do when Rogers goes out and your five-man secondary reads freshman, freshman, freshman, sophomore, sophomore and your nickel and dime packages add in two more freshmen.
Didn't you just say you liked Cam Gordon?
Uh… yes. And then he was terrible against MSU. His shoulder-block style of tackling was something he got away with before he faced Michigan State but against MSU he was bouncing off ballcarriers because they were big and strong enough to take the blow. Then he would try to drag them to the ground, which only worked sometimes and always gave up YAC. He blew a chance to intercept that TE seam, or at least separate the guy from the ball. He took a very bad angle on the first touchdown and got burned on the trick play.
This is a guy who does not have confidence in his angles:
Too aggressive against Notre Dame, he was too conservative here; later he would get too aggressive again. This is what happens when you flop someone in spring practice and have him start at free safety. He has a long way to go. He was just as bad as Michigan's debacle at the spot last year, unfortunately, and while there are good reasons for that the fact he's stuck at free safety when he's linebacker size and linebacker fast is just another symptom of the roster explosion.
Is anyone, you know, developing?
Ryan Van Bergen appears to be emerging into a player who makes an impact. He had a slow start but two weeks in a row he's been basically on par with Martin as Michigan's highest-scoring DL. If he can do something similar against Iowa it'll be time to ramp up expectations for him to fringe All Big Ten.
Also, Kovacs may have had his best game at Michigan. He's so reliable; on a day when Michigan couldn't find a tackle it didn't want to miss, Kovacs twice dragged down TEs in space to boot MSU off the field. Only one counted, unfortunately.
Heroes?
Martin, Van Bergen, and Mouton are all guys who would start on nine Big Ten defenses, and they're playing like it. Kovacs is the complete opposite of the rest of the team.
Goats?
Player retention, youth, the defensive end not named Roh (Banks and Black were collectively –7), Ezeh, the cornerback not named Floyd or Rogers (freshmen CBs collectively –5), and Cam Gordon.
What does it mean for Iowa and beyond?
Apparently that Kenny Demens is going to emerge from the boonies and try to tackle people instead of catch them. Keep telling yourself he's just a sophomore, try to ignore the redshirt bit or the Moundros dalliance, and tap your heels together. If Michigan can upgrade there they might have a chance to hold down the Iowa running game. Michigan State has somehow acquired the without-question best stable of tailbacks in the league; Iowa's Adam Robinson isn't bad but he's not the equivalent of Baker/Bell/Caper, and there's only one of him.
I'm not sure how meaningful Iowa's statistics are in this department. They had three games against totally overmatched opponents. A fourth against Penn State saw Iowa bash into the PSU line over and over because they correctly guessed that Robert Bolden was not going to score on the Iowa D. The fifth saw Iowa gaffe their way into a big hole and abandon the run game in the second half. But for the record, Iowa tailbacks had 17 carries for 35 yards against Arizona (which has a kickass run D) and 28 for 95 against Penn State (which has an okay run D). They could be sort of okay in this department.
That will likely mean Ricky Stanzi is called upon to rain fire on the Michigan secondary, which he will do with aplomb. The Rick Six is a thing of yesteryear, apparently. I have some vague hope that the MSU and Iowa passing games are about equivalent but the MSU run game is a lot better and Michigan can hold Iowa to like 24 points or something.
October 14th, 2010 at 3:13 PM ^
Can someone explain RPS to me? It seems that GERG consistently comes out poorly here. Is this a sign of bad playcalling? Or is the RPS metric just a measure of luck, much like actual rock/paper/scissors?
October 14th, 2010 at 3:30 PM ^
Mostly luck, but it refers to the play call being the correct one against the offense's play. Therefore, it is luck but if a DC studies enough game film, he should have a decent idea of what the offense is going to do in that situation. And when I mean a decent idea, I mean run or pass based on down and distance and that can also depend on the formation they come out in. But again if the DC and players watch enough film, the chance of having a pretty good idea of what the offense is going to do increases.
October 14th, 2010 at 3:31 PM ^
It seems like it can go either way. i.e. on 3rd and forever if the defense rushes 7 and a screen pass goes for a first down that's a bad call on the part of the D. Conversely if there's a blitz coming from the left and the offense just happens to have called a slant to that side (without seeing the blitz coming) that seems like luck on the part of the O.
I think the hope was to see a trend over the season rather than any concrete game by game comparison.
October 14th, 2010 at 3:35 PM ^
It's luck. There are plays where one play-caller has the exact silver-bullet dialed up for the other play-caller. But unless you are Belichick and, you know, actually know what the other guy is running, there isn't a lot that being really good can do for you. I think it is a way to normalize the +/- on these fluky plays. If GERG happens to blind-luck blitz Ezeh into a sack, which is a huge bonus for us, but did not require #45 to do great things, RPS gets the big + and Ezeh gets a more routine play +. Same thing when reversed. Can't ding a kid who was never put into position to make a play, so perhaps no player is at fault for a huge play but a huge negative is needed: It is charged to RPS.
October 14th, 2010 at 4:08 PM ^
The problem with the "luck" theory is that at some point it should average out. I am unconvinced that we overwhelmingly win the RPS for the remainder of the season, much less any single game. Smells like more than luck.
October 14th, 2010 at 4:22 PM ^
I think it is a way to assign +/-'s according to the importance of the play without unduly dinging or praising a kid who was or was not in place to make a play due to luck. At some point, Brian may start grading GERG, but I do not believe that was the point of RPS. It is an adjustment metric. We may be reading too much into it by assigning it's value to the coordinator. They are not graded on every play, just these flukish plays.
October 14th, 2010 at 4:52 PM ^
Take hope:
If Brian is correct...
Michigan State has somehow acquired the without-question best stable of tailbacks in the league
...and from the Indiana UFR...
Indiana could turn out to be the best passing offense in the league by some distance.
...so we've struggled against the very best, right? Right?! *Please let this be right.*
October 14th, 2010 at 5:05 PM ^
I'd like to believe that, but worry about the ten points Indiana scored against OSU.
October 14th, 2010 at 6:12 PM ^
a) Ohio State's defense seems to be pretty good,
b) Indiana doesn't have much of a running game (in part because Chappell doesn't run, which is kind of part of the pistol thing; without a running threat at QB you just have RBs going in different directions), so
c) OSU could sti back and let Chappell try to throw.
Darius Willis leads IU in rushing, but he gets 4.3 YPC, and pretty much no one on the roster has a higher total, even the guys with 2-3 carries (one guy is 3 for 27 yards), and that's from playing suspect defenses and OSU. Michigan, on the other hand, has eight guys averaging more than 4.3. Willis is the only guy to break a run longer than 25 this season; Michigan has 5 guys who've done that.
So ... if you have a decent secondary, you can sit back and watch. If you don't ... Chappellbombing.
October 14th, 2010 at 6:52 PM ^
Willis didn't play against OSU, and neither did two starting O-linemen.
October 14th, 2010 at 6:59 PM ^
IU only had something like two of their starting O-linemen from the Michigan game available for OSU, and each of those two got injured during the course of the game. They were also missing their starting RB and some other guys. OSU mostly played IU's second string offense. They still probably wouldn't have allowed 35, but it would probably have been more than 10.
October 14th, 2010 at 3:26 PM ^
Woolfork.
October 14th, 2010 at 3:28 PM ^
... i resorted to reading every other sentence to soften the pain and not looking at one picture or video clip or chart.
October 14th, 2010 at 3:49 PM ^
I skipped a lot more than that, just as I fast-forwarded through most of the defensive series in the second half of the actual game. I haven't got time for the pain.
October 14th, 2010 at 3:29 PM ^
seems like he has no killer instinct. He is never on the attack and just seems like he goes through the motions. I truly hope Demens attacks the gaps to prevent getting gashed like we did last Saturday.
October 14th, 2010 at 3:37 PM ^
Yeah I don't think Ezeh reads his keys very well. I.e. a pulling guard is a pretty good indicator that he is going to block someone for the RB, therefore he should be either filling that hole or seeing that and going to where the RB is going. Like you said, he has poor instincts and seems to wait for the RB to come to him instead of going and hitting the RB.
October 14th, 2010 at 3:33 PM ^
FEELS BAD MAN
October 14th, 2010 at 3:33 PM ^
if you look at the first video - UFR Defense 9, to the biggest, clearest problem is with the alignment. If you look at the play right before it starts, there are seven Michigan defenders lined up to the side oppsite the strength of the formation. Thus, to the left of the center, you have 3 offensive lineman to block our two down lineman and ezeh. then the center can take out mouton, and expecially with the receiver in motion, you have no other defenders even in the area with cam gordon slanting to the side with two receivers and Kovacs playing on the line on the weak side. In other words, WE HAVE FOUR PLAYERS OUT TO THE RIGHT AWAY FROM THE STRENGTH OF THE LINE TO COVER TWO WIDE RECEIVERS. of course the result was going to be a touchdown. GERG, please explain to me how we can be lined up so utterly, completely wrong
October 14th, 2010 at 3:33 PM ^
That false start penalty that we tackled on third down, that would have forced them to punt was maybe the most frustrating play all game.
We had them stopped and they proceed to march down the field and go up on us for good. If our offense gets the ball there, who knows what would have happened.
October 14th, 2010 at 3:41 PM ^
still makes no sense to me that they let the whole play go through before calling the false start. That call was extremely frustrating to me as well.
October 14th, 2010 at 3:49 PM ^
I just knew bad things were to follow after that happened. Most defenses wouldn't mind pushing the other team back another 5 yards but our defense isn't "most" defenses sadly.
October 14th, 2010 at 3:52 PM ^
exactly what you mean. The more yards to a first down means more than likely its a pass play of doom for a first down / touchdown.
October 14th, 2010 at 3:33 PM ^
I have some vague hope that the MSU and Iowa passing games are about equivalent but the MSU run game is a lot better and Michigan can hold Iowa to like 24 points or something.
If we can hold them to 24 points, we have a pretty good shot, IME. I see quite a bit of similarity in MSU and Iowa's pass offenses, but their running offenses are quite a bit different. I agree with Brian in that MSU has a pretty good running game and that Iowa is not quite as good and deep.
October 14th, 2010 at 3:40 PM ^
My analogy here is that with all of the experience limitations on our defense right now, it's as if GERG is playing rocks, paper, scissors with only 2 of the 3 options, and the offense knows which option he's unable to play.
I'm certainly not happy with the development of our defense under GERG, but I do understand that he is at a strategic disadvantage at the moment.
October 14th, 2010 at 3:50 PM ^
... while the initial results aren't great, it is hard to measure the ability of a chess player when he has pawns against the other teams knights, bishops, rooks, and queen.
You really are playing for a draw.
October 14th, 2010 at 4:04 PM ^
I really do have to disagree on the whole defending GERG. He is just not a good college D coordinator. Yes, he had success at the NFL level. To me, that means that he is capable (maybe even very good at) taking talented, trained players and maximizing their abilities. What he has not shown himself to be good at are:
(1) recruiting;
(2) player development; or
(3) covering up for weaknesses with decent RPS skills.
On the last point, while many will say that we are at a talent disadvantage, so his hands are tied, I disagree. The play where he put a frosh CB on an island against a talented receiver resulting in a TD is directly on him. Floyd should have drawn that assignment.
October 14th, 2010 at 3:41 PM ^
I can't see us holding Iowa to 24 unless they hold us to 17 or we explode for 45. I doubt we can stop anyone late in a game if we have a slim lead
October 14th, 2010 at 3:41 PM ^
"my eyes the goggles do nothing!!!"
October 14th, 2010 at 4:08 PM ^
Rainer Wolfcastle: Up and at them.
Dialogue coach: No, "Up and atom".
Rainer Wolfcastle: Up and at them.
Dialogue coach: Up and *atom*.
Rainer Wolfcastle: Up and at them.
Dialogue coach: [frustrated] Better.
October 14th, 2010 at 3:44 PM ^
I believe what you called "Full House" is normally called "Power I".
October 14th, 2010 at 3:58 PM ^
Yes that is the power I. We ran that in high school *cough* years ago. Unless they gave it some new fangled name, it is the power I. The back next to the fullback referred to as the powerback.
October 14th, 2010 at 4:05 PM ^
yes, i too was part of a high school team that ran the nebraska-style "power i"
in our set-up, the "power" back could set up right or left, or on the wing, or split wide [did not do that one very often].
October 14th, 2010 at 4:10 PM ^
in the days when i played [you can see our plays preserved in cave paintings] the full house backfield had three guys straight across the backfield---all behind the quarterback---all 3 equidistant from the line of scrimmage
October 14th, 2010 at 6:16 PM ^
that would be a T formation, which would suggest you are old. :)
What I've seen called a full-house backfield is a V-shaped formation, with a HB deep and in line with the QB and then two FBs, one to either side of that line. (Basically, the inverse of a wishbone.) Green Bay's done this in years past, although now they do some really weird stuff with TEs as H-backs ...
October 14th, 2010 at 4:10 PM ^
October 14th, 2010 at 3:45 PM ^
I remember that TE seam and screaming out at the bar "What the fuck kind of angle was that Gordon?"
He's got a pick or absolutely separates that TE's head from his body and instead manages to shoulder clip JT Floyd.
That's gotta be a pass every FS dreams of seeing, a long, looping throw to a TE looking back towards the ball with another DB slightly trailing him.
Ezeh is utterly hopeless at this point. As many have pointed out, he's physically capable and it seems he isn't as oblivious as he was last year when it comes to hitting the right gaps and such, but he's not a linebacker. You have to ATTACK as a Mike.
I love the UFRs because they often confirm what I remember seeing. Mouton, Martin, RVB, Kovacs good, T. Gordon above average, Floyd and Rogers average, everybody else disaster.
Ugh.
October 14th, 2010 at 3:45 PM ^
...culotic. Time to break out the chronic...
Kinda ugly folks, and I'm not hopeful for IA. While I agreethat we can probably handle the IA run, that'll make Stanzi beat us with his arm. If what folks are saying is true - that IA and MSU's passing cames are comparable - look out. It could be another long day in the BH.
Kovacs may be "wierd" but I like him. Great story.
Go Blue!
October 14th, 2010 at 3:47 PM ^
I think I'd like to see Vinopal, an instinctual safety, play back there for a meaningful drive.
October 14th, 2010 at 4:07 PM ^
I'm with you. His interception against BGSU was impressive and it would be interesting to see what he can do.
October 14th, 2010 at 4:28 PM ^
It surely can't hurt anything. The way he stepped in front of that pass and picked it off against BGSU was nice, too bad Cam didn't do that on that pass to the TE where he ended up running into Floyd more than anything.
October 14th, 2010 at 4:42 PM ^
I'm not sure Cam even touched the TE. I think the TE fell down due to Floyd's falling.
October 14th, 2010 at 6:59 PM ^
I think I'd like to see Vinopal, an instinctual safety,
Of course, the only time we've seen these instincts on display is in garbage time against BGSU's third-string QB. I'm leery of turning to true freshmen to fill gaps. A guy like Demens is another story.
October 14th, 2010 at 3:51 PM ^
Not performing any kind of detailed analysis, but based on a cursory reading it appears that pretty much all of the busts are on plays with a 4 man line, mostly the 4-4 base. Conversely, most of the plays in which the defense is described as being in the 3-3-5 stack were kept relatively in check.
Does the mean that the stack is a viable defense against B10 power teams? Hell if I know.
I'm going to take the optimistic view that it's a sign that the defense is getting their assignments down when playing the 3-3-5. and that it just might work as the featured set.
October 14th, 2010 at 3:53 PM ^
I felt so bad for Christian when he got pwned on that long TD play. He should never have been put in that position and it was a shame. I guess that's what they call "trial by fire."
October 14th, 2010 at 3:54 PM ^
I never played football, but I knew that State would run that exact play, for a TD, before the snap. AARRRGHH.
October 14th, 2010 at 3:53 PM ^
Anybody else want T-wolf at deep safety next year, and move Cam Gordon to linebacker or SS? I really hope Avery emerges as a viable starting option.
October 14th, 2010 at 4:06 PM ^
Actually, I would prefer seeing guys stay in the same position group for an entire year, instead of flip-flopping them all over the place willy-nilly. They become jack of all trades, masters of none. That would be Cam's third position in three years. I think he has shown promise back there, but needs experience and time. Woolfolk is probably the closest we have to a lock down corner, which I think would allow the defense to try some different things schematically rather than have the CB's 20 yards off the line every play.
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