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Brian February 7th, 2019 at 3:12 PM

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So Signing Day is in December now. It was… yesterday? Tuesday? Something like that. Nothing happened except the ejection of Amauri Pesek-Hickson from the class; Pesek-Hickson landed at Kansas. Pesek-Hickson seems pretty pissed off. His coach is less so:

Coaches typically bring the hammer down on schools they feel have mistreated their players during the recruiting process. Pesek-Hickson has now publicly stated his belief that he was mistreated by Michigan. Yet when Sims was asked if there will be any issues with Harbaugh recruiting Blue Valley North in the future, he shot down the notion without equivocation.

“Oh no, no, no, no,” Sims replied.

“As far as my feelings with Coach Harbaugh, he has always been upfront and honest with me. He has always done an awesome job every time he has come into my school. He is a great coach from my vantage point.”

“So, I think moving forward, I don’t see any issues that would ever keep Coach Harbaugh out of any one of my schools.”

Webb asserts that Michigan made it clear that a grayshirt was a possibility, and… I mean, when they don't sign you in December* what do you think that implies? Do you receive this news and think "this is fine"?

Michigan probably shouldn't have offered the kid but rather encouraged him to keep his options open past the early period. But also the father's story doesn't pass the sniff test.

*[Quinten Johnson did sign, FWIW, but it was kept quiet so his high school could do a signing day thing.]

2019 basketball recruiting isn't done. Michigan's setting up a visit with Lester Quinones, a 6'5" shooting guard:

Among the schools on him the hardest?

“Maryland, LSU, Michigan, Memphis, Georgia, Ohio State, Pitt, and Miami, been texting a lot.”

Visit plans?

“Michigan is the next visit. It’s getting planned, there is no exact date."

Quinones has a commitment timeline of "late spring," which should give Michigan enough time to determine whether they're suffering attrition, whether it's NBA or otherwise, and thus have a spot for him.

[After THE JUMP: Kansas crocodile tears, Nik Stauskas as an NBA badminton, wyd Tim Drevno]

Fairly proper sanctimony. Silvio De Sousa's been suspended for this year and next by the NCAA after his recruitment was one of the main events in the FBI investigation. This caused a great hue and cry since De Sousa is claimed to be an innocent doe in the woods with no knowledge that his services are being bought and sold. I dunno, maybe he was raised in a monastery and passed out the first time he saw a woman's ankle. It could be true.

Kansas is naturally throwing a fit.

Here is what coach Bill Self (2) said in a statement: “In my 30-plus years of coaching college basketball, I have never witnessed such a mean-spirited and vindictive punishment against a young man who did nothing wrong. To take away his opportunity to play college basketball is shameful and a failure of the NCAA. Silvio is a tremendous young man who absolutely deserves to be on the court with his teammates. This process took way too long to address these issues. We will support Silvio as he considers his options.”

And Pat Forde is appropriately calling them on their garbage (I apologize in advance for Forde capitalizing "Self-awareness"):

Here is what Bill Self should have said, if he had a lot less gall and a lot more Self-awareness: “I apologize to Silvio De Sousa for putting him in this predicament. I’m sorry that T.J. Gassnola (3), a known bag man and now convicted felon, who I was in contact with during this recruitment and others, paid the money that helped bring Silvio to Kansas. We have said that Silvio didn’t know what was transpiring, but I should have. Everyone in college basketball was aware of T.J.’s reputation and how he operated. I acknowledge that it’s very hard to believe that someone with my experience and connections had no idea that he was working a deal to abruptly pull Silvio away from Maryland and send him to Kansas. Instead of blaming the NCAA for its ruling, I should blame myself for using T.J. Gassnola as an unofficial recruiter.”

Here is what Kansas athletic director Jeff Long (4) should have said, instead of joining Self in railing against the NCAA: “Silvio De Sousa’s ineligibility rests with us, not the NCAA. As was revealed in federal court, our head coach said in a text message to T.J. Gassnola, who was working recruiting angles as an Adidas bag man, ‘I’m happy with Adidas. Just got to get a couple real guys.’ Well, T.J. got us a guy, and he did it with a cash payment. We let a fox in the hen house, then acted surprised when he ate a chicken. That’s on us, and nobody else.”

Here is what Kansas president Douglas Girod (5) should have said, if he’d bothered to say anything at all: “As the head of the university, I’m here to accept responsibility for what’s happened within our basketball program and not fall back on the tired, easy, blame-the-NCAA lamentation. Silvio De Sousa has been declared ineligible, and playing him last year will almost certainly vacate our 2018 Final Four appearance. Billy Preston (6) was recruited to Kansas and never played a minute after his mother also was paid by T.J. Gassnola. Cliff Alexander (7) was declared ineligible during the 2015 NCAA tournament and never played again for our school. Assistant coach Kurtis Townsend (8) was quoted on a wiretap transcript discussing a housing-job-cash deal to land Zion Williamson (9). We should have taken a hard look at the way Kansas basketball does business long before now — but frankly, we didn’t want to.”

What dim bulbs like Stephen Godfrey fail to realize in their lionization of the folks who cheat the system is that they benefit from the cartel just as much as the dudes with insanely inflated salaries sitting on top of it. De Sousa reportedly got 22,500—actually De Sousa reportedly got 0 dollars, if you believe Kansas—when in a system that dispensed with amateurism he would have been paid significantly more.

Runners and bagmen and agents aren't defying the system, they're working it.

Open the system up and apply whatever resources you have to academic fraud, oh and change your system from one that explicitly encourages UNC-like straight-up lying instead of what Mizzou did.

Jeff Long just disqualified himself from the Michigan AD job should it come open before he retires, BTW.

I'm in for the California Tiebreaker. Spencer discovers an insane, but brief overtime system:

The format of The California Tiebreaker is butt-simple. The ball starts on the fifty. The winner of the coin toss gets possession, and each team receives four plays to move the ball however they like in the direction of the other team’s endzone.

The weirdness kicks in here: Each team trades possessions, and works the ball from the spot where their opponent left it on the previous play. Complete a pass to the opponent’s 35 yard line on the first play? That’s where they play their first. Because this is a godly solution to football’s overtime problem, field goals and punts are not allowed. If no one scores or turns the ball over after four plays, then the victor is determined by field position.

Maybe they shouldn't do that immediately after regulation but that's certainly a way to cap the number of OTs.

One blarf, pending. Nik Stauskas's week:

  • Traded from Portland to Cleveland
  • Traded from Cleveland to Houston
  • Traded from Houston to Indiana
  • waived

If he gets picked up by the right team he'll be on his fifth NBA team in a week. Someone call Guinness.

In happier alum NBA news:

That's wonderful to hear after an injury that was at first feared to be much worse.

Breaking the cartel. There's a bill in the California State Senate that would put the NCAA at a crossroads if it became law:

Skinner, who represents the 9th Senate District, which encompasses the East Bay, will announce plans Tuesday to introduce a new bill that is called the Fair Pay to Play Act. It is designed to allow student-athletes at California colleges to be paid directly for the use of their name, image and likeness. It also would make it illegal for schools or any organization to restrict these rights or punish athletes for exercising them. …

The Fair Pay to Play Act is hoping to spark a movement that forces the hand of the NCAA, a private entity not bound by state laws. The athletes could still be ruled ineligible by the governing body of college sports. But the law seeks to create a standoff between California colleges and their athletes and the NCAA, presuming the NCAA would eventually have to acquiesce instead of, in essence, banning its California schools.

There would be lawsuits, no doubt, and what a way to spend the money you're not paying players: on endless lawsuits.

Pick your guy. Michigan continues to be super aggressive with walk-ons. This year they've got 20, give or take a kicker or guy who talks about a scholarship for this or next year. I'm rooting for Zonterio Weekley for obvious reasons.

One last fist-shake at Tim Drevno. What are you even doing?

Michigan was going to get Jackson until they decided not to send him a letter of intent on Signing Day.

Etc.: UCLA did bad. Maybe OSU should have called this guy. New defensive analyst is former App St DC. Football is about average in returning production. Deandre Haynes profiled. RJ Hampton isn't happening.

Comments

The Maizer

February 7th, 2019 at 3:40 PM ^

The California Tiebreaker is very interesting. I'd like to discuss if you want to go first or second. The first team has the opportunity to score and not even let the other team have a chance (though unlikely). The second team knows exactly how far they need to move the ball to win on the last play; but that also means the defense knows exactly how far they need to move the ball.

I think I'd rather go second, but it's not 100% clear.

JC06Z33

February 7th, 2019 at 4:20 PM ^

I think the smart move would still be to go second.  As you said, scoring on a 50 yard play would be rare.  Going first would mean you need to score to guarantee a victory, going second would mean you only need to gain 1 more yard than your opponent to win, since you will know exactly how many yards you need on your last play.  And since teams alternate plays, as the second team you would only need to aim for enough yards to sort of mirror the first team so that your last play is manageable.

I saw an interesting option on a Ringer article of this nature though - a blind auction for field position.  Each coach would provide the furthest back on their own side of the field that they'd be willing to take the ball.  Whoever bid the closest to their endzone gets it.  No coin toss, no randomness.  You want to go first?  Better have confidence in your offense.  It would be interesting to say the least.

Alton

February 7th, 2019 at 3:42 PM ^

Only complaint about California Tiebreaker is that it would favor the high-variance offense.  Passing team over the running team.

My only question...what happens on an interception or fumble?

The Maizer

February 7th, 2019 at 4:11 PM ^

Yes, that's true. I meant more like let's say it's the last of the 8 plays and the team has the ball on their own 37 yard line. DPI gives them an automatic win while holding makes one more play 3 yards away from the win. I guess my point is just that penalties would be incredibly impactful in this overtime structure and that could be another complaint/source of weirdness.

Alton

February 7th, 2019 at 4:21 PM ^

Good point.  You can have literal game-ending penalties under this format, where a trailing team gets a win solely because of a penalty taking the ball across the 50.  The good thing about regular overtimes is that there's no such thing as a penalty that awards a touchdown or field goal.

(NOTE:  Yes, nitpickers, I'm aware that there are penalties where a touchdown can be awarded.  They are very rare.)

 

Rabbit21

February 7th, 2019 at 3:46 PM ^

I remember being irritated about Alric Jackson, but only in terms of missing out on a tackle shaped human in the 2016 class.  I wasn't in love with the high school film.  Goes to show you A) what I know(nothing, like Jon Snow). and B) what good coaching and fitting into the right system can do.

stephenrjking

February 7th, 2019 at 3:52 PM ^

I do not like the California Tiebreaker. Most games will wind up finishing with the ball at the 35 of the losing team. Boring. 

I'm never a fan of the government trying to legislate sports issues, but if that California bill passes (California is crazy enough to do it, but it also gets a lot of stuff thrown at the wall that never goes anywhere) it might just work. Either the NCAA relents (which it should anyway on NIL rights) or it loses in court or the California schools lead the Pac 12 to separate from the NCAA and start an alternative body that power 5 conferences quickly join. 

Mr Miggle

February 7th, 2019 at 9:55 PM ^

Making overtimes very short also makes them more random. I'm not in favor of that. I also don't like the artificial nature of that system. It's the football equivalent of a shootout in hockey or soccer.

Maybe the NFL should look into changing their overtime system, but I like what CFB does. I'd suggest one tweak, force the team that starts on defense to go for two from the first OT. If the team that starts on offense scores a TD, they can ensure it's the final OT by kicking a PAT. Or they can go for two, something that would be poor strategy now. It would potentially shorten games, add strategy and lessen the advantage of winning the coin flip. I'm not seeing any downsides. 

MMB 82

February 7th, 2019 at 3:56 PM ^

Does Nik even like Guinness? I thought he would be more a tequila kinda guy (Sauce Castillo and all that). I like Guinness, but can only drink one. As long as that one is in Dublin...

befuggled

February 7th, 2019 at 4:06 PM ^

If you read the Slate article that EDSBS links to (here), California actually used this for a couple of decades. John Elway's high school team won a playoff game using this overtime system against future NFL starter Jay Schroeder's high school team. 

sebastokrator

February 7th, 2019 at 4:23 PM ^

Let's just do away with this whole overtime thing and bring back ties. Playoff games can play a 5th quarter if necessary. Otherwise, this sport thrives in ambiguity and lack of resolution; let's have more. 

Ihatebux

February 7th, 2019 at 4:34 PM ^

Wow, Hampton isn't looking to get paid is he?!?!  /s   Duke, Kentucky, Memphis, Kansas, and TCU are his final five.   Not sure about TCU, but the other 4 are some of the most renown crooked schools in the country.   I'm surprised he didn't include Oregon and LSU.

DCGrad

February 7th, 2019 at 4:44 PM ^

I don't the NFL overtime rule is that bad. Some people act like offenses are scoring touchdowns without playing a defense. Once the NFL got rid of the field goal rule, I think OT improved greatly.

I would like to see them play for a full 15 mins and whoever has more points wins. If still tied after 15, then the games ends in a tie unless its the playoffs or Super Bowl.

ESNY

February 7th, 2019 at 5:02 PM ^

I'd like something like a 10 minute extra period, no sudden death.  And for playoffs, if it is still tied after the extra period, transition to something like the college OT rules but starting from further back than the 25.  You shouldn't get to start in pretty much automatic FG range.  Maybe start at the 40

AC1997

February 7th, 2019 at 4:52 PM ^

I like the idea of the basketball team kicking the tires on some shooting guards.  I'm hopeful that Poole decides he needs the 3rd year to hone his game, but if he were to leave early we're facing a situation where one of the following starts at the 2:

  • Eli Brooks - Who has looked a bit lost as a role player this season, adding solid defense but zero offense and is more PG shaped.
  • Adrian Nunez - Who seems the furthest from ready of the freshmen so far, was the least heralded recruit, and probably projects to a bench contributor at best
  • Cole Bajema - A solid recruit, but as we've seen this year would be a challenge to contribute right away on both ends of the court.
  • Iggy - As much as I love him (and hope he stays), this scenario means a likely starting lineup with Iggy, Livers, Johns, and Teske.  Unless we're playing a 2-3 zone like Syracuse I would have my concerns about matching up with other guards/wings.  

AC1997

February 7th, 2019 at 4:55 PM ^

I'm not sure how the NCAA comes down with a 2-year ban for the kid and nothing for the school, coach, or AD.  

Then again, I can't figure out to this day how UNC got off without a penalty while Missouri gets a ban.  Hell, even RichRod's Michigan team got at least a slap on the hand for 20 minutes of extra stretching!  

grumbler

February 7th, 2019 at 8:28 PM ^

UNC was cheating their own students, not the athletes at other schools.  They got the equivalent of academic probation from the accreditation services, which was the right sanction.  It didn't have anything to do with the NCAA, which is an athletic association.

The Missouri situation is screwed up, but I assume that "the school, coach, or AD" weren't sanctioned because nothing could be proven against them.  Innocent until proven guilty can be irritating, but is still the way to go.

bronxblue

February 7th, 2019 at 5:52 PM ^

I like the California law's attempt to force the NCAA into action.  Anything that makes the NCAA look like the shitty organization that it is works for me.

As for the overtime idea, I'd prefer they just let teams get the ball at the 50 and you have to score TDs.  Yardage is an interesting idea but then turns a contest on factors like penalties and recovered fumbles and the like that would make it an even more administrative headache.

CoMisch

February 7th, 2019 at 6:35 PM ^

? I don't know what it was, but this was a really good UV.  Enjoyed the content and the "monastery/ankle" was hilarious.  Also, can't ever take Coach B for granted, we're lucky as fuck.  "The block was clean and so was the team."  Go Blue! 

Brewers Yost

February 7th, 2019 at 7:53 PM ^

For the chess world championship the final tie breaker is an Armageddon match. Basically, white pieces have more time but must win. 

I would prefer something like this for the NFL/college regular season.The idea is you get 1 point and play defense or take the ball but must score. Now you need the fancy stats people to figure out where the offense should start based on expected points on final drives or something. This would end the game quickly and there are no tie games.

For the record in playoffs or Super Bowl I prefer a shorter quarter but play it like any other.

Huma

February 7th, 2019 at 10:26 PM ^

The flaw with this OT system is that the incentive would be to just chuck it deep 4 times in a row and hope that you either complete it, get a DPI, or throw a pick that forces the other team to start deep in your territory

Alton

February 8th, 2019 at 9:43 AM ^

Right.  The only possible ways to handle turnovers (a) a team getting a turnover wins instantly, just as though they had scored or (b) a team getting a turnover gets a 50-yard walkoff as well. 

So, for example:  Team A play from the 50, and Team B intercepts on its own 10-yard-line.  Team B gets the 50 yard turnover bonus, and for the next play puts the ball in play at the Team A 40-yard-line.  An interception in the endzone gets a touchback plus another 50, I guess.

It's still a weird way to end a game.  Every spot after every play has a margin of error between 2 inches and 2 feet, depending on the play.  Imagine if a big game came down to where the referee spotted the b...wait.  Never mind.