Unverified Voracity Boggles At The Cameron Lazies

It pissed off Indiana too, here's an article on what they did:

http://www.idsnews.com/news/story.aspx?id=77455

Of course, basketball is king there so doing what they do probably doesn't get us all the way there, and we'd probably need to do something further.  But clearly incentivizing earlier arrivals for the students is something that is done.  I think that's the core of the Duke system too -- if you really want to go and really want to have great seats, then put up your tent and camp out in Kryzeskzkezcwkaczkseski-ville.   

There is no excuse why Duke can't sell out their games at Cameron. None. I read the article yesterday and they claimed it "took too long" to get tickets. That's nonsense. 

If I'm not mistaken, Duke students actually have free attendance to basketball games, so it can't be the economy at all.

Holy crap. It's official: Team 132's seniors are made of steel.

We are not lazy, bums, or not passionate.  We live in a high pressure environment where time is a valuable commodity.  We do show up on a consistent basis.  We bought more student tickets than students in a long time.  We are the only part of the stadium that is actually loud through out the game.  Stop with the "get off my lawn" crap.

Really DB? Peer group? Go synergize yourself. 

I already do

I kinda want those 7 bowls to stay becase I'd rather watch two MAC or Sun Belt teams battle then have no football on a random Tuesday in the middle of December.

At Michigan men's basketball it is firstcome first serve to determine if you get bleachers or not

That video was, um, interesting.  My sense is that MSU are a bunch of sore losers, but whatever.

A severed tendon sounds insane to me - I know there are shots and pain thresholds, but when you lose connective tissue that should shut you down.  Molk will be missed, and I fully expect to tell my kids about him one day, which isn't what people usually say about offensive linemen,

Michigan basketball is first come first serve for the good seats which other posters have mentioned.  In terms of hockey attendance my theory is the price of student tickets.  Football tickets cost over $200 (I know its cheap compared to real tickets but I and many are broke students whose parents don't pay for these things), hockey season tickets are $200 and basketball is $100. My first two years I had basketball and football season tickets, this year I didn't even really have the money for the extra 100 for basketball.  My friends at Maryland get all sports tickets for free and that is worth a lot for basketball tickets.  It would be nice if Michigan stopped raising the price of student tickets, it certainly isn't helping lesser revenue sports like hockey to have high season ticket prices.

Looks like Beilein will give the bench players exactly the number of minutes needed to maintain our 327 ranking.  The guy's a wizard.

Michigan students have had great attendance at hoops games because attendance at every game leading up to MSU determined your seat for the MSU game. Hence students showing up for Alabama A&M

7:02 - bottom left corner

May the mystique of all that LB live on forever.

"revoke student ticket privileges for people who don't bother to show up"

I think this would be great.  I have less of a problem with late, but when there are ton's of empty seats in the student section for Nebraska then something is wrong.  If you are too busy or stressed to attend the games then don't buy tickets, or do a ticket share with a fellow student and split the games.

I went as a Freshman but attended less the next three years (I was working) so I get it.  I just don't understand buying tickets and not showing up.

I don't exactly know how things work for undergrads., since I was a grad. student at Duke.  My impression of it, though, was that undergrads. got in for free.  Technically, the K-ville line was for NC plus another ACC home game (uaually Maryland or Wake or whoever was good that year) but it functioned, de facto, as the line for the other home games....  the line started after the people camping out.  (I'm not 100% sure if this is how it worked.  Any current Duke undergrads. or alums feel free to correct me.)  

I do actually think the time issue is probably correct.  K-ville is basically a cesspool of germs (Really, people have gotten really sick from staying in k-ville....  partying all the time, freezing their asses off, sleep deprived, staying in close quarters with many others) and as for walking-up for a game, it really is an all-day thing.  People have flunked out of school before because of K-ville.  

Also the Crazies are not what they used to be.  During my time there (haven't been in a few years) it was already on decline as far as the noise level, and seen as more of a social thing...  an event to be seen at....  rather than filled with true fans who are passionae about Duke basketball.  Plus lots of Duke studens have such a huge entitlement mentality that excellence on the basketball court is just taken for granted.  I think the Cameron Crazies developed while Duke was on the rise, and a lot of passion came with that.  Now that Duke is perenially near the top, I think part of that's begun to stagnate.

But only 650 undergrads.??  Man, that's crazy.  Never thought it'd get that low.  I do wonder, though, if that figure is an average, that takes into account games over Christmas break against schools like Southwestern Utah State, where there's like 100 kids there because they're all at home (almost all of Duke's student population is from out of state.)  

So anyways, in conclusion....  I don't think the decline in attendence is likely as precipitous as the article portrays it, but, I don't doubt there is some decline, and I do think lack of time (and stagnating fandom) are the culprits.  

The idea of incentives for showing up and getting your ticket scanned is always a good one.  Supposedly Maryland has a lottery that gives you priority depending on the number of scans you have.  It leads to people getting scanned and then turning around and leaving, but that could easily be solved by setting up buckets as the game ends and having students deposit their tickets as they leave so as to be scanned a second time and given another turn in the lottery.

if a school can't make money on going to a bowl, they should turn it down and make a stink about it to chide the bowls into fairly structuring the system. changing the record is basically a "protect you from yourself" move (i am not a big right winger) and i don't see there is any harm from having 30 bowl games, just in the fact that they screw everyone over.

NCAA could simply mandate a winning record against FBS teams to become bowl eligible.  5-6 vs FBS and 1 win over an FCS school wouldn't cut it anymore, and schools will think twice about scheduling FCS teams.

I was hoping we'd get a bowl UFR to address one question: How much was David Molk's injury related to our dismal offensive production?  Given that he broke, as I understand it, "the thing that makes his foot work", I'm guessing the answer is "quite a bit".

There is a very obvious reason why football and hockey ticketholders show up late while the line starts an hour before tip off at Crisler. Basketball is the only one of those sports where the tickets are general admission. I don't think that's a coincidence. When there's no incentive to show up early, people won't show up early. And while seeing the whole game might be an incentive to the mgoblog crowd, it isn't to almost everyone else. They don't want to be at the game, they want to have been at the game. If they know they have a good seat, then there really isn't a good reason to go early, especially if they're having a good time pregaming. I think if we switched football and hockey tickets to general admission, we would see a very quick change.

If The Journey is not good enough to be on the Hallmark channel then I would have to question the quality of their family programing because that was definitely a tear jerker for me.

The comments below the Duke article are interesting to read. 

Also - this team needs to win the support, they aren't automatically entitled to it. Sometimes I just want to gesture to the teams to play better, the way they gesture to us to cheer louder.

(Duke is two years removed from a national title.)

Here is the main reason why attendance is dropping: for whatever reason, in the past few years it has become "uncool" to go to games in Cameron."

What? Could you imagine someone saying that about going to Michigan football?

Consider playing home games at Northern High School. The gym is only slightly larger than Cameron and Duke could draw some of their fans to help fill the place."

Yikes.

Wiseman once scored 8 goals against my team in a tourney in Port Huron. I remember it like yesterday. Our game got started around midnight because the PH vs. ? game went into overtime. We came out and within 15 seconds Wiseman had scored. He went on to score 7 more times. We lost 8-0 to his team from Chatam. Our team outshot Chatam something like 35-15 but between Brian and the goalie from Chatam we got smoked. Best player I ever played against.

End of cool story bro.