The Recent Football Moves Make Me Nervous Comment Count

Brian

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I mentioned this on the podcast, but here's a text version: the recent shuffling in the football program does not fill me with a feeing of warmth. Three things that have happened that make me frown about where we are right now:

Moving Jake Ryan to MLB. The linebackers were slightly disappointing last year but mostly because they ended up playing behind guys like Nose Tackle Jibreel Black and Richard Ash. They weren't kept clean, ate a lot of instant-release blocks, and tried to cope.

Desmond Morgan is a quality player and James Ross will be once someone blocks a dude in front of him; Michigan also returns both of their backups. There is zero reason to move Ryan to the interior.

Meanwhile, SAM is much closer to the WDE spot than either interior one. Michigan will flip its line on up to 40% of their snaps, whereupon Ryan essentially is the WDE. He has never had to read run/pass from behind a defensive line. He's is prone to breakdowns he can get away with on the edge, given his athleticism and time. He has a spot as a WDE in nickel packages that gets him rushing the passer, which he's really good at. He's not used to the zone drops he needs to take from the interior. His best asset—rushing upfield—is going to happen on way fewer snaps.

That move is flat-out nonsense. Who plays SAM now? Are they moving Ross there? Playing Gant? McCray? Any knowledge we don't have about why they're making this move is bad knowledge to have about the future: it basically means that the current returning starters on the interior can't play, unless you want to be a Mike McCray booster.

Reshuffling every defensive assistant. Cornerbacks coach Roy Manning, who has never played or coached cornerbacks, sounds… not good. I'm willing to throw anyone who can recruit at a RB or WR position, but corner seems like a thing that you should either have done yourself or have a heap of previous experience doing.

Other guys do have some experience with the roles they step into, but shuffling these guys around is redolent of panic and seems unlikely to do much of anything to help. They had something very good going with their DL development, something that personnel issues may have obscured last year.

And the defense was basically fine last year until the last two games, when they got ground down by the best rushing offense in the country and blasted off the field by Tyler Lockett. Neither was entirely surprising. Meanwhile, the offensive staff is sacrosanct save the coordinator.

8646237509_35ec20ca02_z[1]Chris Bryant's departure. Not that I had much hope that Bryant was going to contribute once we'd heard about yet another surgery for the poor kid.

The issue here is that the exit, which Michigan certainly knew about or could predict before signing day, makes the whole no-commits-since August thing look even worse. It reinforces the toxicity that descended on the program midseason. It's one thing to lose the two DL you have on the hook because you can't run for yard one; it's an additional thing to replace them with air.

Depending on the status of a couple of special teams players, Michigan is one or two scholarships short and if inclined could have given a firm handshake to a couple of graduated fifth year guys. It's one thing to have a 16-man class when you've really only got 16 spots; it's another to leave three or four potential slots open, especially when you're the opposite of careful with redshirts.

That's why this class isn't quite what the star average makes it out to be, and why the recruiting tailspin hurts more than just on the defensive line.

These are the reasons I'm feeling nervous. But hey I was just feeling super optimistic in August so I'm probably totally wrong about this! That's the ticket!

Comments

TwoFiveAD

February 25th, 2014 at 11:43 AM ^

Have to stop the run before you worry about stopping the pass? 

 

The move with Ryan tells me that Pipkins may not be back for awhile and they aren't sure if they have a viable replacement for him yet.  Assuming guys will be getting free to our Linebackers on a consistent basis again, Ryan is the only one built to mix it up in the middle and help with run support.

 

That's the only guess I can come up with. 

 

I think they try this in the spring, but scrap it half way through...

GoBlueinMN

February 25th, 2014 at 12:04 PM ^

Agreed. I think you let the DTs eat blocks and let Ryan make plays in the middle, a la Bullough and Teo the last few years.

I like the move if Ross is able to play the SAM and Morgan plays the other ILB spot with Bolden being the backup at both.

I think the coaches deserve the benefit of the doubt in this situation.

Wolverine 73

February 25th, 2014 at 1:00 PM ^

Gee, I suppose that if Hoke and Mattison decide based on their decades of coaching defenses at all levels that this makes sense based on what they saw last year and what they have to work with then, yeah, I'll take their opinion over what the unwashed masses (i.e., we) think of the move.  And if it doesn't pan out, I'll expect they will revert to the old arrangement or try something different.

yoyo

February 25th, 2014 at 12:23 PM ^

Like that decision to keep Borges until the very last second after telling everyone they were keeping him despite the complete ineptitude on offense.  That decision and others shows that this coaching staff doesn't desrve a blank check or even the benefit of the doubt most of the time.

ish

February 25th, 2014 at 11:57 AM ^

stop the run before you stop the pass is something that tv commentators say.  in reality, it's nonsense.  stopping the run is great and all, but if play action sucks in your inexperienced MIKE (who was a previously awesome SAM) or he gets a lousy zone drop that the offense just lobs the ball right over, it's 6 points regardless of whether you stopped the run previously.

ish

February 25th, 2014 at 2:21 PM ^

first, the player abused most was joe bolden, no desmond morgan.  second, the find of coverage asked of a MIKE is just different than what ryan did last year.  that's not to say that ryan isn't able to play MIKE coverage.  just that it's asking a lot of him to do so, while also scarificing his best attributes.

SC Wolverine

February 25th, 2014 at 2:33 PM ^

You are certainly right about Bolden, but (the interception excepted) Morgan was not excelling in that aspect of his job.  I really like Morgan, but this is where non-athleticism hampers him a bit.  You are right that I am projecting that Ryan's athleticism will enable to do this well.  It seems like a reasonable objection.

SC Wolverine

February 25th, 2014 at 2:34 PM ^

That is the theme of this off-season, didn't you know?  In contrast to our usual wildly unrealistic euphoria at the start of each season -- because we are, well, Michigan -- we are tricking 2014 by approaching the season by being really bummed out.  I think it is promising, if we can keep it up.

alum96

February 25th, 2014 at 11:50 AM ^

I agree the coaching shuffling sounds "curious" but frankly what they were doing last year was not working at all.  So the approach I am taking is, will this improve anything?  I don't know.    But I didnt see any position group excel last year with the coaching we had.  So difficult to do worse (famous last words around here I guess). IMO about 3 of these coaches should be jettisoned since position coaching is so critical. We see what Jordan is doing in the basketball program with our guards - he is a jewel.  I dont see one coach of similar ilk in the entire football program at the position level who I feel confident will make nearly every player he touches measurably better. 

As for LBs, my secret hope is Gedeon is ready to take over Ryan's old position and our starting 3 is Ryan, Ross, and Gedeon.  Gedeon is the only guy physically last year I saw whose body matches Ryan in size (Beyer was in the same range).  I know on paper some of the other guys are theoretically similar in size but eye test on the field I saw Bolden and Desmond as smaller dudes and Gedeon a man child. Gedeon we have a small sample size but like Henry and Wormley and Stribling - those are the 4 guys I saw some faint "splash" play ability last year from freshman or RS freshman types, so I hope these are the 4 who take really big steps this year.  I wonder if Mattison - who seemed to speak very highly of Gedeon - made this move to make room for him as well.  This would allow Desmond to be a primary backup and rotation guy (we rotate guys like mad at that position as it is).

STW P. Brabbs

February 25th, 2014 at 12:06 PM ^

I'm totally with you as a Gedeon booster.  I think he's gonna be a star.  But if the coaches wanted Ryan and Gedeon on the field at the same time, I'm not sure why they wouldn't just keep Jake where he was at and slot Gedeon in as MIKE.

At any rate, I think Brian's stuck in an emo rut on this point -- perhaps the stated reasons for putting Ryan in at MIKE are actually, like, thought out and stuff: they want taller players at MIKE to be able to see into the backfield and read plays better; they want more athleticism at MIKE to be able to cover sideline to sideline; teams had been scheming away from Ryan and this will get him more involved in every snap.  While Morgan is solid, he's generally not much of a playmaker (and yes, I remember the interception).  I'd think the coaching staff would be in for more criticism if they were willing to stand pat with a B/B+, run-stuffing type guy at MIKE than trying to Adapt to the New Spread Reality, but hey, I'm probably just an apologist.

alum96

February 25th, 2014 at 12:38 PM ^

Good point on why not just put Gedeon in the middle ... but as you said Desmond is not a playmaker in my eyes either.  I remember the one INT vs UConn but overall he is a nice competent player but doesnt impact the game anywhere near what Ryan does.  I think if Ross was clean more often he also makes many more plays than Morgan. 

That said the DTs getting rolled over didnt help any of our LBs who were in theory the best unit we had last year.  I'd rather have a more stout guy in the middle so I am actually liking this move because it allows Ryan to make plays on both sides of the field now and he is our #1 playmaker on defense.  But unless the DL gets better the effectiveness of all 3 players in that group drops.

Magnum P.I.

February 25th, 2014 at 1:23 PM ^

Agree on coaches and on Gedeon.

If you've determiend that the current coaching arrangement isn't working, you decide to move your strongest coaches to the areas of need. Okay. So then, what to do with the coaches who were previously coaching the areas that became areas of need? You could move them to coach other areas of lesser need or you could bring in the best available talent in the country to coach those areas of lesser need. If you're gonna make changes to fix what's broken, go all the way.

/full measure

UMICH1606

February 25th, 2014 at 11:50 AM ^

They are moving towards (at least giving a long to) to a 4-3 over scheme like MSU and OSU use with the hybrid star type LB like Denicos Allen.

Ross and Gant will be your Sam backers to start out the Spring.

Of course this is 2nd hand info, but on good authority.

The goal is to be more aggressive.

 

ish

February 25th, 2014 at 11:59 AM ^

the WILL is almost certainly desmond morgan.  that's fine because he's good at that position and has played it previously.  the problem is SAM.  it's great to move to a new scheme where your SAM is a hybrid type, but considerably less great when that means moving your best defender to a position he's never played, where he'll be asked to do things he hasn't previously done and which minimize the best of his talents.

colin

February 25th, 2014 at 12:36 PM ^

i really think Ryan will end up taking a good number of SAM snaps.

in that interpretation, we're trying to solve our problems against good up tempo spread to run teams. the whole point would be to be able to kick Ross out over the slot while cutting down on Bolden/Gedeon reps AND making sure we have enough size on the line. i.e. not being forced to play both Beyer and Ryan on a 4 man line. it definitely seems at least a bit convoluted and perhaps somewhat over-focused on OSU.

so i guess that Ryan will bump down to SAM against any alignments w/ 2 or fewer WR and on the regular on passing downs. he doesn't need the reps at that spot to be at least solid and i really don't think we've had many problems out of the base defense since Mattison's been here.

who knows. coaches are always talking about how some guys are just football players. maybe Ryan is that. even if they're not trying to use Ryan as superman, the fix comes off as a little Borgesian. instead of getting better out of what they already do, they're adding patch fixes that perhaps, they can't practice enough to actually get good at. the defenses that have adjusted best to uptempo seem to be more Narduzzi (make small adjustments to one universal base defense, not a lot of sub packaging) and less Saban (multiple base defenses w/ moduled substitute packages to each). Mattison's definitely more Saban than Narduzzi in that sense.