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|4 weeks 5 days ago||Some attrition was||
Some attrition was inevitable. UM's RB group is stocked with guys who were back-burner targets. For example, Hayes, Rawls, and Johnson were all Plan C, place-holder guys. Now with the '13 class and beyond, the staff is back in the game with legit RB's again.
We are going to see the same deal at WR next year, where it's likely that some of the '13 recruits are going to find themselves buried by '12 and '14 WR's.
|6 weeks 23 hours ago||One thing coaches defitely||
One thing coaches defitely share across the line is tipping of plays. If Mattison is coaching DL or LB's to read the stance of OL's, he'll make it obvoius to the offensive coaches that one of their guys is tipping during scrimmages by vocally pointing it out to his guys. They may also make comments to each other on the side about this guy being good or that guy getting whipped. But I agree there is no way Mattison or his guys are reviewing defensive tendencies of other teams or giving tips to Borges on which plays would work best or how something should be blocked, for example.
|6 weeks 1 day ago||It's unfortunate that Butt||
It's unfortunate that Butt was pressed into action this year. I am not a big redshirt advocate, but it makes sense to redshirt most TE's because developing both blocking and receiving chops is a tall order. But that's a resut of Funchess not taking to blocking and Williams not taking to receiving or blocking. There's a good chance that Bunting plays next year too, unless Shallman and/or Hill become viable TE's. Agree that these guys are going to be a dangerous group with time. Both Butt and Bunting both are nifty receivers with huge frames.
|8 weeks 21 hours ago||UM fans are coming to||
UM fans are coming to acknowledge just how horrible that 2010 recruiting class was. But what is underappreciated is how bad the 2011 class was. It does not have quite the number of reaches. But in terms of producing good players - it was just about as pitiful. Hoke really could have used a few good lineman and offensive skill players from his first class to to build from. But he basically got none. So 2013 is only year two in terms of reshaping the roster.
His biggest recruiting strategy erros was not bringing in another 1-2 OL in the 2012 class, and not bringing in a legit QB in '11 or '12. Those two factors have not helped.
|13 weeks 1 day ago||Agreed||
The Tackle/End loop stunts are way overused in passing situations and not working. I think Black's best skill is jumping the snap Jerel Worthy style and knifing straight into the backfield. Also would like to see Clark and Ojemudia flash some speed rushes. That would help their bull rushes and inside stunts work better. But the OT's are not getting tested to the outside when a slower DT loops around and the interior OL are just waiting on the DE's to crash down.
Despite what he said, Mattison should still reconsider taking out Pipkins on passing downs too. The guy can collapse the pocket a couple yards on a bull rush on darn-near every play. That will open up some things for the other DL and blitzers. It's better than no rush from the nickel DT's they are using.
|15 weeks 6 days ago||This is the wrong year to redshirt safeties who can play...||
This is the wrong year to redshirt safeties who can play, out of principle. If Wilson continues to struggle, UM is probably starting two sophomores at safety next year between Clark, Hill, and Thomas. So the learning process needs to be accelerated for those guys. I konw the coaches want to ease Dymonte in at nickel, but it's looking more likely that will be forced to play FS. Avery at FS is an act of desperation. Outside of Coutess, all of the DB talent is in the freshman class so it makes sense that the coacches start getting their feet wet right away.
|16 weeks 1 day ago||It's a good sign. Outside of||
It's a good sign. Outside of Countess, UM's DB group is filled with upperclassmen who are decent, but limited. FS and boundary corner are completely wide open. A lot of UM's good DB's over the years have been ready to contribute early (Kovacs, Adams, Hall, Marlin, Countess, etc.). So it would have been a disappointment to me if some of these young kids were not pushing for playing time. I would not be surprised to see a FR safety (Dymonte) and a FR corner starting games later in the season. And that would be a sign that UM's talent level is improving through recruiting.
|23 weeks 1 day ago||It's pretty much a lock that||
It's pretty much a lock that Butt plays this year. Borges can't survive with two TE's. Butt is probably already a better blocker than Funchess. And he may surpass Williams in that category sooner rather than later too. Actually, I would not doubt that Khalid Hill plays as well. Borges is apparently pretty excited about him.
|24 weeks 3 days ago||Good post. A lot of 3 stars||
Good post. A lot of 3 stars are kids who have or will receive an offer from a top 25 program, but no analyst within the service is willing to carry the kid's torch. Could be due to some perceived flaw, or just simply from lack of exposure to the services. The 3 star pool is so huge that the ranking does not tell you anything of significance.
|25 weeks 2 hours ago||The excuses hold some water.||
The excuses hold some water. Just agreeing with the original poster that Miller's lack of contribution last year is a legit red flag nonetheless. Yes, a RS frosh is young and 284 is not ideal weight for a C, but there are NFL C's playing at 290. And if you look back at UM's (or the B1G's) historically good or even only decent OL, they are usually ready to at least contribute by their second year. Even undersized guys or guys who have made major position switches. UM toyed with two clearly poor centers last spring and fall (Barnum and Mealer) and this year's presumed starter didn't get a single whif.
|25 weeks 12 hours ago||I doubt the coaches want to||
I doubt the coaches want to play him, but Dawson has a good shot to earn the back-up RT spot and perhaps make the travel squad. He is reportedly very sound in pass blocking, based on the camp reports. At this point, if Schofield is hurt, you will probably have a walk-on subbing in. Kalis and Braden could potentially back up there too, but those guys will have their hands full learning OG play this year.
|25 weeks 12 hours ago||Based on the spring game||
Based on the spring game footage, I was pleasantly surprised how mobile Braden was. Looked very light on his feet for his size, even though he botched some plays. I think the coaches are playing him at LG just to earn him experience. He may struggle there a bit but I think he has good potential at OT.
|25 weeks 13 hours ago||I think his point still||
I think his point still stands and the concern is valid. Saying Mealer "wasn't great" at C is the understatement of the century. Not since Pat Massey have I seen a UM lineman that bad have such a vice grip on a starting job. But I actually believe Mealer was worse than Massey. Barnum was bad too but at least he had a couple decent games. If they had a decent back-up, the guy would have been rotated in more than Miller was. Don't think Miller gaining 10 pounds will make him progress from "no way we let him near the field" to legit starter.
|27 weeks 21 hours ago||Agreed. Think this is much||
Agreed. Think this is much ado about nothing. Not all of these big CB's will stick at the position. The ones who don't will get moved to safety.
Also think there is a decent chance that one of the three WR's in the 2013 class will be at safety for 2014 spring practice. Don't see all three of them being major contributors at WR.
|27 weeks 3 days ago||I guess I missed those plays||
I guess I missed those plays against Bama where Nix was dominating and clogging up Bama's running lanes.
|27 weeks 3 days ago||Not sure we watched the same||
Not sure we watched the same ND-Bama game... Alabama's OG's were all over ND's LB's due to the fact that Jones needed so little help with Nix. That was the #1 key to Bama running at will between the tackles. Outside of a play or two, Nix was a complete non-factor. Nix also did not have a great game against Mealer and UM last year. Nix is a good player with NFL potential due to his measurables, but he does not have the motor to take over a game, unless the C is bad.
|27 weeks 3 days ago||Offensive concepts are pretty||
Offensive concepts are pretty different too. MSU tries to run the ball like it's 1975. Kelly is very much pass-first. He did seem to learn the value of running a little last year. But he lost games his first couple seasons at ND due to not exploiting a decent running game enough.
On defense, I think Diaco at ND is more bend-don't-break than Narducci, who blitzes an ILB on every darn play.
|27 weeks 5 days ago||It's worth noting that UM ran||
It's worth noting that UM ran the ball fairly well against ND last year and actually had a few sustained drives. In fact, I took solace after last year's ND loss that the OL and RB combo was starting to gel. Boy was that wrong. Pitt ran well on ND last year too. Of course it is a very good defense, but I think UM's offense can do some damage against the Irish defense.
|28 weeks 1 day ago||As a lean 265-lbs HS senior,||
As a lean 265-lbs HS senior, Taco could be well over 280 in a year or two. To me, that is SDE territory. The coaches seem to be searching for an SDE and hoping that Wormley pulls it together. But if not, they may move Taco over there. Either way, I am not sure Taco and Mario will be used the same way.
|29 weeks 2 days ago||We'll see...||
I think Dymonte's eventual position depends upon how the safeties shake out, and maybe also on how some of these incoming corners look. If a third good safety emerges between Gant, Stribling, and Clark, they may want to keep Dymonte with the corners. That position group really lacks size right now. With Countess (future NFL player) coming back, Taylor will have to play boundary corner and he does not have the ideal size for the position that Mattison is seeking. He will also be tested more this year because he is not playing opposite JT Floyd anymore. I don't think seniority matters a ton to this coaching staff - hence Dymonte possibly unseating a well-established Avery at nickel in his early-enrollee spring. I don't care who wins out or where people play. If they determine that Taylor is not holding up well against the big WR's, they may consider moving him to nickel and Dymonte out to boundary CB. Regardless, both Thomas and Peppers will hold down starting spots somewhere as freshman.
|29 weeks 3 days ago||Don't want to throw Taylor "under the bus", but Peppers||
is blessed with obvious NFL talent. Raymon Taylor is a solid player who is better than his recruiting reputation, but he is still a boundary corner in a field corner's body. He won't be able to hold off studs like Dymonte and Jabrill at boundary corner if he has to compete with them. He could be competing with Dymonte as early as this season.
|30 weeks 6 days ago||He has all of the physical skill in the world and....||
the defensive instincts to boot. That's pretty rare. A lot of even the top defensive recruits are deficient in one area or the other. You could say the same about Woodson - he could have easily been an NFL WR or RB. Thomas could be a very good college RB too. But defense is a better bet because he can be used in a lot of different ways. UM needs him more on defense too.
|31 weeks 3 days ago||There are some benefits to playing freshmen too...||
It helps with recruiting and is a motivator for prospects to work hard as their first season approaches. Also puts more pressure on the upperclassmen because they have legit competition with the freshmen. And it allows coaches to put good talent on special teams. And redshirt years are wasted when a kid has a future injury and needs to sit out as an upperclassman. The trend is if a kid is able to make a legit contribution, the coaches will play him.
|31 weeks 3 days ago||Agreed...||
Also think there is a good chance that Gedeon is a more instinctive LB than RJS. He could very well be in the regular rotation this fall. Mattison has had no qualms about playing freshmen LB's.
|31 weeks 3 days ago||Correct||
Robinson's problem was that he was not a legit safety. Meaning, he could not be trusted to play there. Being 2nd on the spring depth chart means nothing when all of the other competitors are young. Honestly, it's a good thing because he will no longer be taking up valuable practice snaps, as he has since arriving.
|31 weeks 5 days ago||And Borges is looking for the same...||
He has said in interviews that the last couple of years have opened his eyes to the value of a QB who can provide the run threat and keep drives alive. The best college QB's are the ones who can improvise and escape. But Borges won't compromise on passing skills. So I would see UM continuing to go after stud dual-threat guys like Pryor and Gardner (some years) and selling them on developing NFL passing skills. As long as they have the basic tools to be good passers.
|31 weeks 5 days ago||I agree that Braden is||
I agree that Braden is eventually the guy. He moves fluidly for a guy his size. Just a question of how quickly he can sharpen his fundamentals and get comfortable. Looked shaky at times in the spring game.
|31 weeks 5 days ago||I think you can close the book on him...||
Based on the spring game, he lacks agility big-time. Not sure if he is still injured or what, but he really needed to make his mark either last spring, last fall, or this spring. When you have a window of opportunity, you have to take advantage. Braden, Bosch, Kalis, and Glasgow will all be ahead of him in camp. And then you throw in additional talented freshmen. Doesn't look promising.
|31 weeks 5 days ago||Butt burns his RS for sure.||
Butt burns his RS for sure. Both Williams and Funchess have some different limitations, so they will definitely need a 3rd guy to mix in there. Only way you could get by with two TE's would be if both players could do it all.
Butt should be a more physical blocker than Funchess. Don't see Funchess putting on much more weight with his frame. Despite playing WR in HS, Bunting appears to be a willing blocker from his HS tape. Also, Bunting is going to be monstrous compared to Funchess - guessing 260+ lbs.
|31 weeks 5 days ago||Black is probably underrated on this list...||
He has the look of a confident starter. He will be a nice complement to QWash.