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Previously: Podcast 4.0, the story, quarterback, running back.

 

Depth Chart

WR Yr. WR Yr. Slot Yr. TE Yr.
Roy Roundtree Sr.* Devin Gardner So.* Jeremy Gallon Jr.* Brandon Moore Sr.*
Jeremy Jackson Jr. Jerald Robinson So.* Drew Dileo Jr.* AJ Williams Fr.
Amara Darboh Fr. Ricardo Miller So.* -- -- Devin Funchess Fr.

This bit could be better. Roy Roundtree suffered more than anyone in the transition from the spread 'n' shred to the spread 'n' pasted-on-West-Coast-stuff, plummeting from 72 catches to 19. Notre Dame and Sugar Bowl savior Junior Hemingway is off to NFL practice squads as a seventh-round pick; following him out the door are Martavious Odoms (replaceable) and Kevin Koger (uh…).

In their stead Michigan will field a forest of unproven guys with limited upside, freshmen, their backup quarterback, and Jerald Robinson, the one vague hope for a high quality downfield threat who is not the backup quarterback.

It should be noted that Michigan is running the opposite of the Holgorsen style "you came here an X, you learned it in three days, you repeated it 60 times, you are forever an X" specialization offense. Jeff Hecklinski said as much last year…

"The difference in this offense is there aren't really slot receivers as much as outside receivers — they play everywhere on the field and we move them around," Hecklinski said. "The switch is big because of all the little things asked of them - they have to convert routes, pick up checks and route changes and coverages."

…and the frequent deployment of Junior Hemingway in the slot and Jeremy Gallon outside confirmed that over the course of the year. Therefore "slot" is used to denote the player who is going to get all the wide receiver screens, which will never be bubble screens.

Outside Receiver

imageRating: 2, with upside.

Assertion: Junior Hemingway was the most valuable Michigan wide receiver since Braylon Edwards. Hemingway may not have been as good as Mario Manningham or even Adrian Arrington, but imagining last year without his ability to rise from a thicket of hands to snag "no no no no no no YESSSSSSSS" touchdowns is not a pleasant exercise. He is the undisputed king of yards per target since 2005. He was important.

Unfortunately, Hemingway's gone. Left behind is the mismatched collection of runty Rodriguez slot receivers, Rodriguez leapers who run like hobbled ducks, and… maybe Devin Gardner. Definitely Devin Gardner.

Aw, hell, I should probably start off talking about Roundtree and stuff but everyone wants to know about Gardner.

Yeah, man, he's going to play. Unless Jerald Robinson delivers on the perpetual low-level hype, no one else on the roster comes close to Gardner's combination of size, leaping ability, and speed. At the very least he'll frequently attempt the Terrelle Pryor "oops I'm huge" redzone fade…

…and it's hard to see him not being more than that given the alternatives. Gardner played exclusively at wide receiver at the Mott open practice, and with the first team. I've heard from multiple source since: that's no smokescreen. 

While no one knows how this will go, the steady drumbeat of hype from players is encouraging. It took about all of a dozen spring practices for reports like this to reach my ears:

Someone who's seen Gardner at all of Michigan's practices so far says he's "instantly Michigan's best receiver and adds a new dimension to the offense." He's "crazy athletic" with "surprisingly great hands."

Similar reports popped up on the premium sites, and when fall camp started and everyone asked anyone in front of the mic about the possibility, his teammates said "dang." Kovacs:

"He's a great athlete, I feel like he could play anywhere and he could probably take my spot if he tried," Michigan senior safety Jordan Kovacs said. "He's a natural athlete, and if they play him at receiver, I'm sure he'll be pretty good.

"Wherever he plays, he's going to make big plays."

Denard:

"When he gets out to receiver, you think he's a receiver," Robinson said. "He looks like he's been playing there for years."

And then there's this extremely reliable and not all dated video of Gardner screwing around at WR as a high school kid:

That's the ticket, man. They might have to protect him from getting jammed, but that's not too hard: line him up off the LOS, possibly in those stack formations, and there you go. Then it's about running the routes and catching the ball. 

The possibility of a "devin gardner dunked on tacopants" tag and a paucity of options to fill the Junior Hemingway role that bailed the offense out time and again last year will see Gardner on the field. It may be sparingly at first, but if it's crunch time against Alabama do you want him on the bench?

Attempting to predict what happens here is very difficult, but I'm betting Gardner is one of four players approximately level on catches and yards at the end of the year, with no true star player. The upside is tantalizing, though, and your best hope for an offense that scorches both ground and sky. Devin Gardner, you've been X-factor'd.

[hit THE JUMP to read up on Roundtree, Gallon, and company.]

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2011 was not 2010 for Roy Roundtree

That Roy Roundtree gets second billing here is indicative of a one-year falloff that was essentially the Michigan defense in reverse. Thanks to a hefty serving of effective screens and safety freakouts, Roundtree was the Big Ten's second-leading receiver in 2010 with 935 yards on 72 catches. A year later he limped home with 355 yards on just 19 catches. I've only got four clips for him from the Big Ten season, the same number as Drew Dileo.

This was a combination of being targeted far less frequently and doing less when he was on the receiving end of a throw. Thanks to a huge Football Study Hall spreadsheet we know that opportunities for Roundtree catches were more than halved (107 to 49) last year; worse than that—much worse—was a near-halving of his catch rate. After bringing in 67% of the balls tossed his way in 2010, he brought in 39% last year. If you're thinking this is due to the disappearance of bubble screens, sure, that's a factor, but Roundtree's catch rate was the second-worst of anyone since 2005. Only a very bad WR (2008 Darryl Stonum) getting even worse passes directed his way was even in the ballpark.

But this isn't all, or even mostly, on Roundtree. Denard's erratic 2010 hit him hardest of all. Compare the UFR season totals for the three main WRs at the end of the regular season:

[0 = uncatchable, 1 = remarkable, 2 = tough-ish, 3 = routine]

Player 0 1 2 3
Hemingway 11 0/2 8/9 22/25
Roundtree 12 2/7 6/8 9/10
Gallon 7 -- 2/3 25/25

Roundtree did as well as anyone on the team at catching the ball, he just got far crappier opportunities. A third of the balls thrown his way were totally uncatchable compared to 23% for Hemingway and 20% for Gallon; just 27% of throws at him were filed routine compared to 53% for Hemingway and 71% for Gallon. After a year of easy catches, Roundtree got pounded by the WCO transition. Maybe some of that was the fact that he couldn't turn some of those zeroes into better-than-zeroes like Hemingway could; I don't think that explains much. The numbers here are low enough that we are probably talking about the luck of the draw.

Still, it's hard to see Roundtree reinflating back to his sophomore numbers. He was a slot for a reason. His willow-thin frame makes him easy to jam and he doesn't have the size to make himself a major deep threat. His athleticism is good for going up against safeties and linebackers; he struggles to get separation from high-quality corners.

He can be better. He has worked on his Manningham-esque bump-and-extend technique, using it for big gains against Northwestern…

…and Nebraska, but biffing a critical one in the Iowa game:

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Roundtree slowed up a moment before this still. If he runs through the ball this is a touchdown the DB can't do anything about. Arggggh.

Work on that and Roundtree can haul in some long ones. That's still a relatively low-percentage play. Much more so than this from last year's preview:

There's a certain theme running through many of Roundtree's long receptions: desolation. When Denard catches the safety the resulting throw looks like post-apocalyptic football. Where is everyone? They're dead. Let's run through this tumbleweed-infested secondary.

That's not coming back. Roundtree's best hope is a major leap forward from Denard that finds him open in holes in the zone. A rebound should be expected, but to 30 or 40 catches only.

[Roundtree's knee scope shouldn't be an issue, FWIW.]

Backups

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Robinson, Jackson

Jerald Robinson has been talked up for a few years now without any on-field impact following, and if Devin Gardner does end up being a full-time wide receiver that is unfavorable commentary on his ability to get it done.

Robinson does have believers. When Michael Rothstein surveyed the outgoing seniors($) on who would break out next season, Robinson got the most votes and high praise:

"He's got it. I see him in practice, special teams, scout team. He can do it." … "He could be that guy that people don't know about yet. Watching him on the scout team, he has great body control in the air, can really go up for the ball. He's a good guy coming up."

That's the kind of talk I believe since those surveyed could have picked anyone. Kevin Koger talked him up (along with Rawls and—er—Stonum) as well. He's mastered the art of the nothing quote, something that must greatly please his head coach.

But that doesn't change the fact MGoBlog has nothing on him other than that hype. He had a similar amount last year, and was invisible in the spring game. He was invisible again this year and hasn't generated as much fall buzz as Amara Darboh, let alone Gardner. It's anyone's guess as to whether he makes it on the field much this year. If he doesn't, turn out the lights.

Jeremy Jackson remains the son of hyperbole volcano Fred Jackson and a guy who ESPN described as "lumbering" in the first sentence of their evaluation. He does have a big frame and may emerge into a box-'em-out possession guy as Michigan seeks to replace their lost production. He's a guy Michigan will throw on the field in multiple WR sets, hoping they can get him singled up on a linebacker or that he can out-jump a defensive back.

His catch against Northwestern is a good example of where he can be effective. There he dragged across the field on a play action waggle, coming open past a couple linebackers, and provided a big target for Gardner. Ballpark production: a dozen or so catches with a YPC just over ten.

Two freshmen are next on the hit list. Amara Darboh [recruiting profile] and Jehu Chesson [recruiting profile] are both big targets and refugees from African countries. Darboh's a lot thicker; Chesson is taller, possibly faster, and a better leaper. Borges says both will play. Historically, "play" has meant "block" for freshmen wideouts at Michigan. This year they might get some actual targets. Darboh is in the lead for those, it seems.

Finally, Ricardo Miller moves back from tight end. Moving a guy his size to tight end is to slap him across the face, tell him he has the athleticism of a dizzy hippopotamus, and challenge him to a duel. He gamely added some weight, was still way too small, and now returns to wideout. After that journey any remaining recruiting hype is gone. He'll get some sporadic snaps; more than a couple catches would be a surprise.

Slot Receiver

Rating: 3.

It's time for Annual MGoBlog Reminder That Jeremy Gallon Looks Like Snoop From The Wire. Fire up the Daft Punk; here we go.

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one more time

Yeah. That's the stuff.

When not looking exactly like Snoop from the Wire, Gallon spent his 2011 engaging a cloaking device that rescued the Notre Dame game…

…and made Borges's throwback WR screens all but unstoppable. The targets listed above demonstrate where he was used: short, short, short. Denard occasionally took shots at him deep when he was single covered (and sometimes double), but he was mostly an underneath guy.

JEREMY GALLON
MOUNTAIN GOATIN'
pancakes on the edge
flying squirrel block
thwack
IT ALWAYS WORKS
NW TD
DOES GET DOWNFIELD
hauling in a bomb
dig route
crossing TD

Michigan will have to switch up their screens for Gallon to continue his production on balls thrown behind the line of scrimmage; they will and he'll get a bunch of targets on short stuff that he'll turn into nice gains. He'll also get a lot of run for his ability to headbutt opposing secondary members. Remember this from Denard's opening veer TD against OSU?

CJ Barnett, please report to aisle shame and regret.

Al Borges told Tom Dienhart that Gallon had the best camp of the WRs, but I'm not sure how much more production Michigan can get out of him without resorting to the dread bubble screen. The throwback stuff is great if used sparingly, but no more, and the combination of an erratic passer and a short guy led Borges to focus on other wide receivers last year. There's no reason that should change now. Meanwhile, Gallon's proved only somewhat slippery. He's not doing crazy stuff when he gets the ball; he'd have to to warrant increased short-range chances with Denard and Toussaint around.

He'll probably get a few more targets just via seniority. Other than that, production on par with last year is reasonable.

Backups

Junior Drew Dileo is the last of the Rodriguez waterbugs (though Hoke's collected a couple now). He's got a few catches to his credit, most impressively a 20-some-yard snag on Michigan's final drive against OSU:

He also was on the receiving end of a Vincent Smith toss, got some mountain-goating in, and held on to a seam despite getting lit up. By the end of the year he'd reeled in 9 catches, seven of which were in the UFR charts, and had an impressive 4/5 on moderately tough catches to go with three routine ones. So far he's been a reliable option.

His height will always make him a less-than-great option—the gap between Denard's margin for error when throwing to him versus, say, Devin Funchess, is enormous—but that doesn't mean he can't be pretty good. With Odoms and Grady moving on there's another 20 slot targets available and with Kevin Koger out of the picture the slot's going to be on the field quite a bit this year. Dileo should get another ten or so opportunities, which he'll probably do well with.

While there are no scholarship slots behind Dileo, both Justice Hayes and Dennis Norfleet are running backs of the tiny jittery sort and may find their way onto the field as a third option at this spot when Michigan goes four wide. Both were regarded as excellent receivers coming out of high school (size caveats granted), and provide a big play possibility that Dileo might lack.

Tight End

Rating: 2.

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Funchess / Williams / Moore

What tight end? Kevin Koger's out the door and with him goes Steve Watson, leaving one veteran scholarship option: Brandon Moore. Moore's only notable contribution to date is blowing a protection on Michigan's disastrous fourth-and-inches against Michigan State. He was behind Watson (a James-Rogers-like positional vagabond). He made his second career catch against Purdue last year. The other was against Delaware State. Baby Seal U. Blast from the past, that.

That doesn't inspire much confidence. Then Michigan moved walk-on Chris Eddins to TE, featured fellow walk-on Mike Kwiatkowski heavily in their spring practice videos, and ran an absolute ton of three-WR, two-RB sets in the spring game. I'm thinking that the coaches don't have a lot of confidence in Moore, you guys.

Therefore this preview expects that freshmen AJ Williams [recruiting profile] and Devin Funchess [recruiting profile] get a plurality of snaps handed over to tight ends this year. Williams, a guy who moved to right tackle as a senior in high school, is 15-20 pounds heavier than anyone already mentioned and has spent his entire career to date run blocking. He will be featured on short yardage and goal-line packages and whenever Michigan decides to slam its head into the I-Form power wall.

Funchess is one of those 6'5" Brent Petways that NFL teams like. While he's rail thin and likely useless as an inline blocker, Michigan should find him a better option than Moore or Eddins or anyone else on underneath stuff when Michigan's in the spread or on passing downs. He's bigger (at least in terms of catching radius) and more athletic than anyone else Michigan would consider in that role, including Jeremy Jackson, Roy Roundtree, etc etc etc. In the Mott practice Michigan went deep to him twice with good success; you know that Borges is plotting maniacal ways to occupy the safeties with other receivers so Funchess can burst into the second level. Once he ramps up a few games into this year he'll quickly find himself a safety blanket and possibly more. Twenty or even 30 catches are within reach.

Moore and Kwiatkowski should play as well, especially early. Kwiatkowski featured as a guy making ridiculous catches in Three And Out and maybe gave you a flutter of hope in those spring videos. He may surprise.

In any case, Michigan can't expect super production out of this spot since no one they've got can block and catch, but since they've at least got a guy or two who can do one or the other I'll bump this up to 2, i.e. "not quite the Never Forget Secondary."

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August 28th, 2012 at 10:24 AM | Was listing DG as a RS-So a (Score:2)
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Was listing DG as a RS-So a typo or did I miss something?

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August 28th, 2012 at 10:29 AM | Assume it's because (Score:1)
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he's expected to get a medical redshirt for 2010.  

There is no time, sir, at which ties do not matter.

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August 28th, 2012 at 10:53 AM | I was under the impression (Score:3 Normal)
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I was under the impression that Brian didn't think he would be granted the redshirt.

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August 28th, 2012 at 10:55 AM | Wouldn't the chart indicate (Score:3 Normal)
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Wouldn't the chart indicate your impression is wrong?

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August 28th, 2012 at 11:16 AM | I'm afraid this may be (Score:4 Normal)
snarling wolverine
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I'm afraid this may be wishful thinking on Brian's part, because Gardner is consistently listed as a junior on MGoBlue.com:

http://www.mgoblue.com/sports/m-footbl/mtt/mich-m-footbl-mtt.html

http://www.mgoblue.com/sports/m-footbl/mtt/gardner_devin00.html

I know some people are holding out hope that he'll be retroactively declared to have redshirted in 2010, but I think that's a lost cause.  I don't think the NCAA works that way.  Note that Jon Horford, who was injured last basketball season, is currently listed as "RS SO" now:

http://www.mgoblue.com/sports/m-baskbl/mtt/mich-m-baskbl-mtt.html

 

 

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August 28th, 2012 at 12:03 PM | He can't even apply for it (Score:3 Normal)
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He can't even apply for it until after the 2013 season. The trend in decisions seems to point toward them granting it, and one guy who has been in contact with Brian insists they will. Then there's another source telling Brian that there's no way. And the one guy i have to ask says it's shady and political and anti-Wolverines up there and that it's all about which team is asking: Michigan: hells no; rival of Michigan: yes assuredly. I read all of this as "nobody knows until next year."

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August 28th, 2012 at 12:17 PM | But then why is Horford (Score:4 Normal)
snarling wolverine
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But then why is Horford listed as a redshirt sophomore right now?  Why is Gardner seemingly the only person who can't know his status until after his fourth year?  This doesn't add up.

Maybe I'm wrong, but didn't Gardner actually dress for every game that year?  If so, I can't imagine the NCAA would believe he had a season-ending injury in the first month of the season.  I suspect the athletic department knows that getting that year back is a lost cause, but for some reason (possibly to keep Gardner happy?) doesn't want to state it outright.

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August 28th, 2012 at 12:43 PM | Is this guy you asked a (Score:5 Normal)
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Is this guy you asked a level-headed person with actual knowledge or the type of guy who shouts at his TV that the commentators are rooting against Michigan?

I mean, is there even a reason given why these decision-makers at the NCAA are supposedly anti-Michigan to begin with?

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August 31st, 2012 at 9:02 AM | Absolutely 100% the second (Score:2)
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Absolutely 100% the second thing. But he did correctly predict everything that went down with OSU.

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August 28th, 2012 at 11:57 AM | It would. That's why I was (Score:2 Normal)
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It would. That's why I wanted to know if it was intentional

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August 28th, 2012 at 12:33 PM | Dileo (Score:2 Normal)
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The chart also lists Drew Dileo as RS-JR

#justsayin

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August 28th, 2012 at 10:35 AM | Two comments: Comment the (Score:3 Normal)
Logan88
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Two comments:

Comment the first - AARRRGGHHH!! Iowa game refs, why u no call pass interference? Seriously, my blood boils everytime I see a picture (and there are at least 4 different ones) of an Iowa DB draped over a UM WR long before the ball has hit the receiver's hands. I don't usually like to blame offcials for a loss...but, yeah, UM got hosed by the officials in that game.

Comment the second - "flying squirrel block" for Jeremy Gallon literally had me in tears from laughter. Why can't I +1 posts made by Fearless Leader?

We ARE Michigan....COME GET SOME!!!

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August 28th, 2012 at 10:39 AM | Paskorz (Score:1)
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Shouldn't Paskorz be in the discussion at TE?  Or do you think the transition isn't going to stick or that he won't be ready to play TE this year at all?

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August 28th, 2012 at 12:48 PM | Who? Honestly, I'd be (Score:3 Normal)
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Who? Honestly, I'd be surprised at this point if Paskorz was mentioned when listing the top Michigan players whose names end in Z. When you're a third year player on the thinnest spot on the team and you don't get the slightest mention, you've dropped into Isaiah Bell territory, I'm afraid. He has two true frosh and two walk-ons ahead of him.

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August 28th, 2012 at 10:42 AM | It's amazing how much better (Score:5 Normal)
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It's amazing how much better this receiving corps would look with a fifth-year senior Darryl Stonum.  I wish that guy only the best, but he really hurt us with that final legal run-in.

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August 28th, 2012 at 12:53 PM | Gotta be honest, I don't (Score:0 Overrated)
Logan88
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Gotta be honest, I don't understand this sentiment at all. Stonum never did anything of consequence as a WR for UM. His only significant career highlight was the kickoff return for a TD against the Domers.

Unless, you are referring to Stonum's epic "geeky-guy-in-glasses" appearance at that press conference, of course.

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August 28th, 2012 at 8:20 PM | You must have missed the nice (Score:1 Normal)
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You must have missed the nice downfield grabs he made after he got his eyes checked.

Greetings from Bolivia.

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August 30th, 2012 at 10:56 AM | Stonum's 3 year totals as a (Score:2)
Logan88
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Stonum's 3 year totals as a WR for UM:

76 catches for 1008 yards (13.3 ypc) and 6 TD's.

Conclusion: "meh"

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August 28th, 2012 at 10:54 AM | Funchess (Score:1)
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I thought Funchess looked like a beast at the scrimmage. I can't imagine trying to cover him. He may not be up to blocking but as a receiver I think he should be lights out.

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August 28th, 2012 at 11:12 AM | Well, that's three damp-squib entries on this year's squad, (Score:1)
MGlobules
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by my count. My irrational exuberations are giving way to. . . psychotic joy as we approach Saturday.

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August 28th, 2012 at 11:25 AM | on TEs (Score:0 Overrated)
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While I do think Funchess will be used and will be productive as a pass threat, with a few big plays to his name - I think his lack of blocking will be a hinderance.  Long-term, he's a guy that defenses will instantly know is nothing more than a receiver and be able to adjust scheme to compensate.  His presence will make Michigan predictable.

I expect Kwiatkowski and Moore to be the primary TEs who will do what Borges TEs do - block, mostly.

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August 28th, 2012 at 12:04 PM | While I agree with you that (Score:4 Normal)
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While I agree with you that Funchess isn't much more than a receiver currently, keep in mind he is just a true freshman. He will gain much more mass in the coming years. This year he will be a threat to catch the ball and keep defenses honest, but within a couple years, he could be more of a Kevin Koger TE, where he can block well and catch. Hopefully though, he is more reliable than Koger at catching the ball.

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August 28th, 2012 at 3:49 PM | Agreed (Score:2 Normal)
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Sorry, by long-term I meant later in the year.  Career-wise, hopes are sky-high for him being an excellent, perhaps great, all-around TE.

My concern is that this year he won't 'keep defenses honest' - that he'll be treated like a 3rd WR who isn't very fast, instead of a 'dual-threat' TE that needs to be covered but can also block you into the ground.

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August 28th, 2012 at 8:21 PM | It makes more sense now that (Score:2 Normal)
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It makes more sense now that we know what you mean by long term.

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August 28th, 2012 at 11:28 AM | re devin (Score:3 Normal)
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i really hope i am wrong on this one, but i just cant get on the hype train.  

our basis for projecting him as a threat includes one highlight video from high school and practice hype.  thats it.  

on the other side, those who attended the fall scrimmage said he didnt necessarily impress and - of course - he has never played reciever....

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August 28th, 2012 at 11:56 AM | Don't get me wrong: I'd much (Score:1 Normal)
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Don't get me wrong: I'd much rather have Stonum than not. But experience says he probaby wasn't going to be anything beyond an ordinary flanker. It's shocking that, barring a great leap forward by a freshman or back-up, the former "Wide Receiver U" really has no top-flight flanker. Thanks again, RR.

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August 28th, 2012 at 12:14 PM | Stokes (Score:1)
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Everyone likes to mention the Stonum departure, but I think a more easily preventable, yet important one, was the Je'Ron Stokes departure.

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August 28th, 2012 at 1:22 PM | I don't know if it could have (Score:2)
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I don't know if it could have been prevented.  He was a RR recruit so the coaching change could have been hard on him. 

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August 28th, 2012 at 12:00 PM | I thought Funchess looked (Score:1)
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I thought Funchess looked pretty big.  Maybe it's his height that makes him look like a true TE.

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August 28th, 2012 at 12:16 PM | You can't spell "Funchess" (Score:3 Normal)
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You can't spell "Funchess" without FUN. He's almost as tall as Tacopants.

Got a quarter?

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August 28th, 2012 at 5:53 PM | Brandon Moore will have a big (Score:2)
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Brandon Moore will have a big season. Too much discounting him here, imo.

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August 28th, 2012 at 6:51 PM | 2 things constantly passed (Score:2 Normal)
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2 things constantly passed off as fact that I consider myth:

1. Jump ball, desperation inspired heaves receptions by Junior Hemingway; Betcha I could count the number on 3 fingers or less

2. I formation equals doom. Personally saw many nice plays out of the I. Koger's TD against the Buckeyes immediately springs to mind

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