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Seth February 3rd, 2021 at 11:50 AM

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Happy Signing Day. Michigan today received three new letters of intent for three guys on the defensive tackle spectrum. This comes two weeks after naming Baltimore Ravens assistant Mike Macdonald one of their co-defensive coordinators, presumably the one who’ll get to shape the next iteration of Michigan’s defense.

George Rooks (currently 6-4/260), Ike Iwunnah (6-4/300) and Rayshaun Benny (6-5/275) join a class that already signed a projected SDE/DT type in Dominick Giudice (6-4/250), and three guys on SDE->3-4OLB spectrum in TJ Guy (6-4/240), Keshawn Bennett (6-4/220), and Tyler McLaurin (6-2/210). Is there a defense that can use all of these guys? Well yeah, but only one team I know runs it at the highest levels of football: the Baltimore Ravens.

The Amoeba Defense

The NFL and Michigan have the same problem: how do you stop modern NFL quarterbacks and NFL receivers who can beat anybody one-on-one. There are lot of ideas out there. Ohio State does whatever it takes to get the kinds of athletes who can beat anybody one on one. Iowa State turned their middle linebacker into a hybrid safety who starts at the safety level. Indiana has gone zone blitz crazy. Army and some SEC schools use a front that takes away B gaps and options the option to slow everything down. Iowa and Northwestern and Wisconsin are committed to Cover 2 systems that require years of tutelage. Everybody’s experimented with changing personnel, turning their 4-3s and 3-4s into 4-2-5s, 2-4-5s and 3-3-5s, and turning those into 3-2-6s, 4-1-6s, and whatnot.

The Ravens will tell you they’re a 3-4 defense, or a 3-3-5 nickel. But where other modern 3-4s (eg Alabama) have bowed to modernity by converting OLBs into hybrid safeties, the Ravens have been doubling down on the defensive line-iness of their front five while turning their linebackers into quasi or total DBs.

The approach is working. Despite cutting the one superstar they built the thing around in 2019, Baltimore was first in the league last year in old fashioned passing defense, and ninth in Football Outsiders’ fancystat DVOA (10th versus the pass). With that guy they were fifth (fourth vs the pass) in 2019. More interestingly, they have been doing it without hanging their hat on run defense—they were 12th this year, and 29th in the NFL in 2019.

That is by design. Counter to how everyone in football was taught, the Ravens built their defense starting with stopping the pass, and then figured out how to fit versus the run. They do it by blitzing more than anybody in the league, and blitzing a wider variety of players than anybody in the league. They call it the Amoeba defense, because it can shift into any look. It’s complicated, sure, but it’s also hell on quarterbacks, who are regularly unsure of their reads or throw to the wrong ones.

Macdonald was the linebackers coach, not the mastermind, of those defenses. That would be the previous linebackers coach, Don “Wink” Martindale, who was promoted in 2018. But Coach Mac was there as the concepts were implemented, and it’s a good enough bet that Jim Harbaugh chose Macdonald because he’s been Wink’s guy.

[After THE JUMP: Does Michigan’s roster have what this takes?]

Three Plays, Three Blitzes

Your typical defense starts with some kind of base run formation with a safe base coverage behind it. The Ravens defense starts with blitzing your face off. Here’s their second snap when facing the Chiefs—the NFL’s best offense—on Monday Night Football last year.

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I don’t have to explain how this works. Every eligible receiver has a defender covering him in man. Every gap has a blitzer. Unless one of those blockers can take two gaps there will be somebody unblocked.

Let’s look at who’s on the field versus what they’re doing, because it’s interesting how many guys are not in the roles you would imagine:

  CB SAM 5-TECH SS NOSE MIKE 3-TECH RUSH FS Nk CB
Run: Side C-Gap B-Gap A-Gap A-Gap Safety B-Gap C-Gap Edge Alley Side
Pass: X(m) Rush Rush Rush Rush RB/hole Rush Rush TE(m) Cov4 Cov4

The cornerbacks are in coverage and the front five are rushing their gaps and edges, but the strong safety is playing the role of a blitzing WLB, the free safety is being a Viper, and their MLB is playing safety, freed from gap responsibility so he can get the depth that ultimately breaks up the play.

(Downside: the free safety taking that tight end got a hands-to-the-face penalty.)

This blitzing gets in the quarterback’s head, and they like to make sure of it by messing with expectations. The next play they set up again with defensive backs high over every wide receiver, a sign that they’re playing some kind of underneath coverage. This is a run play—a split zone—that should find some room against a second level worried about RPOs and underneath passes. The FS is lazily walking down when the tight end returns to the box, matching numbers. Not until the last second does the cornerback come down as well, stacking the offense’s left side to free up the DE to knife into the run.

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Other than the stunt on the frontside there, the Ravens are running the same play: six men attacking the six gaps in the box, with a couple of LBs behind them and Cover Zero (man with no help) behind them. It does show how the Ravens deal with motion across the formation. Clark, the strong safety who initially lines up over the tight end, converts to a linebacker when the TE leaves his side. With the MIKE whipping over to the edge to replace the blitzing safety, the MIKE is now matched on the tight end.

Let’s check in again and see what kinds of jobs everybody’s doing:

  CB SS RUSH 3T WILL NT MIKE SAM FS Nk CB
Run: Side Free LB B-Gap A-Gap C-Gap B-Gap Edge LB A-Gap C-Gap Alley Side
Pass: X(m) RB(m) Rush Rush Rush Rush TE(m) Rush Rush Cov4 Cov4

Glance across that list and count the number of players who are actually doing what their nominal position would normally do in a standard defense. You’ve got a free safety thunking a tight end, a strong safety playing inside linebacker, a WLB rushing an open edge, and 3-4 OLBs taking B gaps.

You’ve also got zero deep help for your coverage. That’s a tough spot to be in for the secondary. Just imagine a quick pass to Tyreek Hill, one of slipperiest dudes in the league!

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Any NFL QB these days is going to be money at reading your defense before the snap, but Mahomes did not trust Hill to have that much space underneath. That’s the big advantage the Ravens gain from this approach: there are no comfortable reads, and pressure is coming so fast that it’s unlikely the offense is going to be able to find what you left them this time.

I want to move on to the next play to show you why it’s a weakness as well.

This is a passing down so they’ve lifted the NT and rotated in some backups. Note the cornerback playing single-high safety. KC’s offensive coordinator, Eric Bienemy, catches the Ravens in a zone coverage by moving the running back outside and drawing nobody with him. With the cornerbacks all up high like that it’s a fair bet that they’re in a Cover 3, which doesn’t have an answer for quick outs because the curl/flat defenders have to work inside-out to get there.

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“C-F” means curl-flat zone

That’s why the Ravens went after super-expensive free safety Earl Thomas in the 2019 offseason; they miss him badly on this play, as replacement DeShon Elliott can’t be in two places at once. Last check-in:

  CB RUSH SS FS 3-TECH 5-TECH DIME CB MIKE SAM Nk CB
Run: Side 2-Gap T QB Off R A-Gap A-Gap Safety B-Gap C-Gap Edge Side
Pass: 1/3 Rush Hole C-F Rush Rush 1/3 Rush Rush C-F 1/3

Personnel

People refer to the Ravens base defense as a 3-4 or a 3-3-5. I would argue this a “5-1”:

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When you talk about designing a defense, what you are really considering is how to distribute the same work, and we tend to break up that work into speed, size, and decision-making. In the NFL it’s also about where you put your resources. A lot of teams build from the bottom-up, IE build a good defensive line then sprinkle playmakers around the back seven. It’s a proven strategy, and popular, which created a market opportunity for a team willing to start with its defensive backs. That’s what the Ravens have done. PFF in 2019:

While the Ravens allowed their productive pass-rushers to hit the open market, PFF’s Research and Development team was finalizing their thoughts on the actual value of pass-rushers, especially when compared to coverage players. Depending how much you were taught that football is won in the trenches, the results may have been counterintuitive, as strength on the back end proved to be more valuable than getting after the quarterback, and the Ravens’ team-building effort appeared to be following a similar blueprint.

Instead of replacing Suggs and Smith up front, the Ravens made free safety Earl Thomas their key offseason signing, adding to a plethora of riches in the secondary and prompting us to declare the Ravens as the best secondary in the NFL heading into the season. That unit got even better with the midseason acquisition of CB Marcus Peters, who is known for his ability to create turnovers despite giving up his fair share of yards in coverage. The pass-rush group did not get the same glowing remarks, ranking 25th in the preseason rankings as its question marks were hardly answered during the offseason.

The Ravens weren’t putting all that cap space into guys they planned to leave on the bench. They were building a position-less dime defense. We can glance over the guys on the field and interpret their plans.

EXPENSIVE CORNERBACKS

Let’s get the part that Michigan can’t (yet) replicate out of the way: Baltimore has very good cornerbacks. Marlon Humphrey, Jimmy Smith, and Marcus Peters were all first rounders. Peters is one of the most talented guys in the league, Humphrey is an all-around great player, and Smith has a 5-9' guy’s agility in a 6-2 body. They had $22 million, over a tenth of the NFL’s salary cap, tied up in Humphrey and Peters last year, and Smith’s been giving them a deal to play for a contender. And they’re getting their money’s worth by leaving these guys in a lot of space with very little help.

The cornerbacks get involved in the rush game as well (5* 2022 USC commit Domani Jackson would be perfect in this defense, just saying). They also have to be good tacklers in space, because if things go wrong up front they’re often left high and responsible for holding down the gain. That’s in addition to all the normal cornerback things like jamming, getting coverages right, and staying with whatever the NFL throws at them.

FIT: Gemon Green might be able to do some of this, but Michigan would do well to recruit some top-notch corners off of other teams’ rosters this year, and get some five-stars who want to do more than run around the Ohio State secondary until it’s time for NFL scouts to marvel at their athleticism and lament their lack of coaching.

THE DO-ANYTHING SAFETY

Earl Thomas was a big part of their defense in 2019 but his personality issues led to him getting cut before the 2020 season. They’re going to carry a large cap hit next year ($10 to 14 million depending on how quickly the legal things get resolved). For our purposes we can ignore that aspect since Thomas’s signing in 2019 was a huge indication of the Ravens’ thinking when building that defense.

Until 2019, Thomas was the consummate single-high guy, a role he played as consistently as anybody in the league while with the consistently Cover 1 Seahawks. The Ravens pursued him with extra money, surprising experts who thought that was a bit much for a dude you plan to leave back to patrol. What the Ravens saw however were abilities that could be used closer to the line of scrimmage. Thomas could play the deep overhang with his eyes closed; what Baltimore wanted was that experience in a guy they could move all over the field AND play deep safety.

The Ravens will play single-high sometimes, and will play a lot of Quarters. It’s their blitz schemes that add so much variance to a free safety’s day, because he’s constantly replacing somebody called upon to pass rush from an unusual spot. Remember how the cornerbacks get left on an island all the time, AND join in the fun sometimes? When a cornerback does that guess who gets his old job?

Now imagine that guy has to cover tight ends too. The first play above was a stop but DeShon Elliott, Thomas’s replacement, picked up a hands to the face trying to deal with one of the better NFL receiving tight ends.

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FIT: Daxton Hill, come on down.

THE NICKELBACK THINKS HE’S A LINEBACKER

Cornerbacks take rotation, however, often putting one of Peters/Humphrey/Smith on the bench. That’s created a lot of snaps over the last few years for Anthony Levine, an undrafted free agent from Tennessee State in 2010 who spent most of the intervening years as a special teamer. In this defense he’s a 5-11/207 hybrid space player. We have met all sorts of Big Ten defensive backs like him over the years: Maryland’s Antoine Brooks, Minnesota’s Antoine Winfield Jr., OSU’s Shawn Wade, ND’s Jeremiah Owusu-Koramoah, and Bama’s Shyheim Carter are the NFL-caliber versions. Shakur Brown of Michigan State, and Bryant Fitzgerald and Marcelino Ball (and 2021 commit Marcus Freeman) of Indiana would be college equivalents. Tyree Kinnell or Josh Metellus would have fared well.

All of those guys are cornerback-ish safeties. You can trust those guys to clover slot receivers, cover wide second-level zones, and react like a linebacker against the run, bodies be damned. While Humphreys can do it all, Levine can do most of it, and that plus the extra beef in the OLBs lets the Ravens get away with using a nickel-shaped guy at linebacker.

FIT: We haven’t seen many of our nickels but it’s not that hard to find this kind of tweener but RJ Moten’s recruiting profile fits the bill.

THE STRONG SAFETY IS A SAVANT

Strong safety Chuck Clark came cheap. A veteran of Virginia Tech’s Quarters system, the smallish Clark hoped to make it to the league as a cornerback, but his combine numbers (4.56 forty) wouldn’t cut it, and the Ravens picked him up as a sixth rounder. He moved into the starting lineup last year when strong safety Tony Jefferson tore his ACL. The Ravens released Jefferson in the offseason and started Clark.

The NFL allows one player to wear the “green dot” which is the one guy allowed a radio in his helmet, and the Ravens give theirs to Clark, one of the few odd teams to not give it to a linebacker. Clark has led the league in defensive back pass rushes both years he’s been the starter. You saw him moving around a ton, playing some linebacker, blitzing, and faking a blitz to find a guy in zone coverage who started on the other side of the formation in the third play.

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Also would you guess this guy timing the snap on his blitz is a safety or a linebacker?

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FIT: Getting back Brad Hawkins is nice but I don’t think there’s a guy on the roster now who does all the things Clark does. Michael Barrett does a lot of them if they can get away with him doing safety things sometimes. You don’t want him on a slot receiver though. It may be that one of their young vipers, Anthony Solomon or William Mohan, can do true safety things.

THE MIDDLE LINEBACKER IS AN ATHLETE

The Ravens spent two early picks on middle linebackers last year to get some athletes capable of playing some safety and getting to the quarterback quickly on blitzes, sacrificing read-and-react soundness for pure speed and agility. Their first rounder, Patrick Queen, is that in spades. Walter Football on his projection before last year’s draft:

Queen is well suited for pass coverage in today's NFL. He is a smooth mover in the open field with the speed to run vertically down the middle seam. Queen is skilled in zone coverage to flow with the play and cover a lot of ground. After some further development, he could be an asset in helping to cover running backs and tight ends in man coverage. Queen also is a dangerous blitzer who eats up space in a hurry to put pressure on the quarterback. With his speed and athleticism, Queen is a great fit for the modern pro game, as he can be a three-down starter who provides a plus defender in coverage.

As a run defender, Queen uses his sideline-to-sideline speed to shut down perimeter runs. He flashes good vision and uses that to weave through trash to get in position to finish plays. For the next level, Queen needs to get stronger to take on and shed blocks. Downhill runs straight at him can give him problems, and he has a hard time shedding blocks when offensive linemen and some tight ends lock onto him.

Team sources say from an instincts perspective, Queen is still developing, which is a good way to describe it. He flashes some good instincts on some plays with good decision-making on when to fire his gun. On other plays, he can seem to react a hair late and take a false step or two before redirecting. As team evaluators have pointed out, Queen did not play a lot in college, so he does not have a lot of experience. Thus, there is some rawness to Queen and he needs development in the NFL.

The Ravens’ five-man front protects the linebacker from having to take on too many blocks. In return he has to take over a lot of the coverage duties from the OLBs and safeties blitzing willy-nilly. Remember he used his athleticism to break this up.

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The WLB has similar characteristics but is used more often in blitzing and can weigh a good 20 pounds more. He also isn’t a starter.

FIT: All of those young LBs Brown recruited to be Devin Bush could be instantly viable in this scheme.

THE OUTSIDE LINEBACKERS ARE DEFENSIVE ENDS

If you visit the 1976 team’s page on the UM Bentley website you’ll see the defense’s starting lineup listed with five linemen:

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Go on to the 1977 team and suddenly it’s a 3-4:

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What changed? Literally just the position names next to John Anderson and Dom Tedesco. The reason was because Bo was recruiting a guy who wanted to play linebacker, not defensive end. This story comes from Ravens head coach John Harbaugh, who shared it when he and his brother were on hand for an Ann Arbor Pioneer event a few years ago. I don’t know what made me think of that story just now.

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It’ll come to me.

Judon’s cap hit was a one-year franchise tag deal that split the DE/LB tag values. He’s a very good pass rusher, but what makes him so valuable to this defense is he’s that kind of pass rusher at a size that wouldn’t be weird for a 3-4 defensive end or 4-3 DT in college. McPhee is even more of a strongside end despite the linebacker tag. They both do drop into coverage, but that’s a changeup. They’re ends.

FIT: Aidan Hutchinson, Gabe Newburg, Taylor Upshaw, and Braiden McGregor were all recruited by Don Brown to be anchors or oversized ends. David Ojabo, Kechaun Bennett, and Jaylen Harrell are 3-4 OLB types we were hoping to grow into ends. TJ Guy in particular projects to be exactly the kind of "is he an SDE or OLB, why not both?" that Judon is.

THE INTERIOR LINEMEN ARE A STANDARD 3-4

The Ravens still use a thicc nose tackle and a bunch of very strong ends who can work in A gaps or B gaps. The big thing for them is taking out linemen so the blitzers can get through free. These two are both DEs on the roster and are lining up in the A gaps, threatening the center with 53’s angle. If you’re the center looking at that, are you tempted to set the protection to the left so you’re not left blocking both of these guys? Well he does, and that gets #48 a free run.

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FIT: Linemen are linemen. If Hinton bulks up and Mazi continues his development and Jeter takes another step forward they have three guys who can play now. I don’t know if they have more than that on the roster; Welschof was still undersized for this and some of their build-a-bears were a long way's away, though there are a lot of Anchor bullets in the chamber to hit on a future 5-tech. Giudice, Rooks, and Benny project to those 3- and 5-tech positions, and Ike is a pure nose.

Comments

Blake Forum

February 3rd, 2021 at 11:46 AM ^

This is really great work Seth. Thanks for doing it. It's killing me that Michigan's personnel should fit fairly well into the Ravens' defense... except for the part where the Ravens have multiple elite cornerbacks

My Name is LEGIONS

February 3rd, 2021 at 11:53 AM ^

This write up is so fantastic...  bravo to you AGAIN Seth.

Seeing this makes me think about Carlo Kemp... he'd have been a great SAM or RUSH in this defense, right ?

Wallaby Court

February 3rd, 2021 at 11:56 AM ^

This is both tantalizing and frustrating. Michigan's personnel looked like a good fit, until I read about Baltimore building from the back forward and thought about the cornerbacks room. That made me sad.

Wallaby Court

February 3rd, 2021 at 1:08 PM ^

Michigan does not have bad players per se. But Seth described Baltimore's cornerbacks as elite for the NFL. They ran 4.41, 4.46, and 4.53 40s at their respective NFL combines. More worryingly, Baltimore seems to maroon its corners on little islands and live or die on whether the blitz gets home.

I am sure there are substantial schematic differences, but the basic concept sounds a lot like what Don Brown asked of Michigan's corners in 2020. That went...poorly. 

Twitch

February 3rd, 2021 at 8:17 PM ^

Maybe we do have elite corners, we just haven't seen them play yet.  Andre Seldon and Darion Green-Warren could be pretty good.  New coaches mean fresh start for those positions.  Don Brown seemed to have hamstrung Shaun Nua, and I will go to my grave saying using Rashan Gary as anchor was criminal misuse of him... maybe we haven't even scratched the surface yet of what this defense is capable of because of misguided or outdated leadership or a philosophy that didn't fit.  Whatever the case, there's reason to believe that things may look quite different next year.  

Tuebor

February 3rd, 2021 at 12:07 PM ^

Any thought to how the amoeba defense will work disguising their shifts pre-snap on the wider hash fields of college?

 

I'm wondering if this defense works in the NFL but in college will tip its hand too much.

Seth

February 3rd, 2021 at 1:02 PM ^

That's a really good point. It's up to the offense. If you spread out super five-wide that always takes rushers away from the box--hard to blitz a cornerback from outside the numbers.

You lose more in preparation than hash marks in the transition to college defense. It's also much easier to fool quarterbacks, and there are a lot of offenses that just don't even bother to have quarterbacks make reads on 1st and 2nd down except a simple high-low or zone read.

ex dx dy

February 3rd, 2021 at 2:34 PM ^

Put your DBs on an island and blitz like crazy? That was Don Brown's schtick. It ultimately failed because of three reasons:

  1. Crossing routes. The Ravens got around this by spending on DBs that can out-athlete the other guys. It failed here because our CBs couldn't keep up with elite WRs. Fixing this problem is predicated on us getting CBs that are as good or better than the top-end WRs OSU and other elite teams get. It's not the worst strategy, but I wouldn't bet on it. Crootin.
  2. No DTs. If the run game can gash you up the middle all day, your blitzes don't matter. This one can be fixed by recruiting even just space-eating DTs.
  3. Predictability. After the first couple of years, everyone figured out Dr. Blitz's blitzes. If everyone knows you're going to blitz, there's only so much you can do to disguise those, especially with the limited practice time of college teams.

As far as I can tell, #1 and #3 will still be problems in this Ravens defense.

Carpetbagger

February 3rd, 2021 at 3:43 PM ^

I don't disagree at all. Reading Seth's piece was a blast from the Don Brown past. Blitz a lot, cover the gaps with a body of some sort.

One major difference being the DL. Notice DB did well with Mattison's DL out there. All that beef up front allowed him to get away with a lot behind them.

It always bothers me bringing NFL concepts to college. You alluded to it as well. In the NFL everyone is good. The range from great to average is a step. In college it's 10 yards.

Seth

February 3rd, 2021 at 3:48 PM ^

The big difference is number of blitzers and who's blitzing. Don Brown liked five-man pressures and wouldn't give up coverage in the middle of the field. The Ravens like six-man pressures from everywhere and are willing to gamble more. Brown was more of a blitzer with BC. At Michigan he rushed four or five and tried to create pressure with lots of stunts.

Carpetbagger

February 3rd, 2021 at 1:03 PM ^

Agreed. We need about 5 more serviceable D-lineman and 5 more DBs to make this work.

On the other hand, one way to keep your linebackers clean is to have 5 lineman (and pretty much not have linebackers).

I would hope this group at least understands you have to make lemonade with lemons. We have plenty of talent on D.

ex dx dy

February 3rd, 2021 at 2:38 PM ^

It's not just about more DBs, it's about quality. The "put your DBs on an island and blitz like crazy" thing only works if your DBs can out-athlete the opposition's WRs. Generally speaking, given roughly equivalent talent, if the offense executes perfectly, they win. Counting on having CBs that are better than OSU's WRs seems like a risky plan.

Wolverine In Exile

February 3rd, 2021 at 1:15 PM ^

The one thing I like this defense more than the Iowa St 3-3-5, is ostensibly it is more stout against the run, including option based run games. It's almost like a modern variation of the old Chicago Bears 46 defense. Not sure that helps us against Ohio St, but will make sure we don't get gashed against Wisconsin, Iowa, Michigan St, etc. 

RockinLoud

February 3rd, 2021 at 12:24 PM ^

Seth, it seems a good deal of the effectiveness of this scheme is the complexity. Do you think that college players are going to have enough time to grasp everything in order for it to be effective? 

Seth

February 3rd, 2021 at 1:06 PM ^

No, there's going to be a harsh transition cost. Michigan recruits intelligent guys, however, so they're in better shape than most schools to run something complex. Keeping guys around for four years would help that a lot. You really need to have pure talent if you're going through players at the rate they are.

1VaBlue1

February 3rd, 2021 at 1:43 PM ^

I wouldn't think so.  Brown's defense was no walk in the park, and they picked it up in 2016 like they'd been playing it for years.  They're all bright kids, they can pick up new things pretty quickly when they're effectively coached.

I think the 'slow learning curve', if you will, is more in play with offensive players.  A lot of things an offense does is based heavily on the defense they read before a snap.  QB's and WRs have to read the same defense actions to complete a pass - ie: if it's zone the WR goes inside, man he goes deep.  (Yeah, simple example...).  Defense largely reacts to what's actually happening during the play.  So I think it's a little different learning curve between offense and defense.

Edit: I should have refreshed before I posted!  But I still think the defense can pick up new concepts pretty quickly.  Perhaps the inevitable mistakes will be borne out against the dregs of the schedule, such that a few games under the belt will make a big difference?

MGoJukes

February 3rd, 2021 at 1:13 PM ^

 

This is really great analysis that ties together the offseason moves.  It gives a strong sense of a strategic plan.  Really excited to watch this play out.  Thanks for sharing and GO BLUE.

 

Wolverine 73

February 3rd, 2021 at 1:32 PM ^

After watching Dwayne Haskins misread defenses and throw the ball directly to defenders multiple times this year, I am hoping for the equivalent from OSU QBs against this sort of defense going forward when the Game is played.

rugbypike11

February 3rd, 2021 at 1:33 PM ^

It looks like the Zero Blitz vs. Split is more of a 2-4-5 personnel grouping.  As you note, the OLBs are basically DEs, meaning they are running something roughly equivalent to 4-2-5.  The big difference between our 4-2-5 and the Ravens, is that their nickel is more of a big CB than a hybrid S/LB "Viper" and the DEs are standing up more and called OLBs.

According to the gentlemen at Film Study Baltimore, they were in this 2-4-5 nickel about 39% of the time in 2020.

They ran the 5-1-5 or Jumbo 3-3-5 Nickel about 8% of the time when they wanted to stop the run against 3 WR personnel.  They would play traditional 3-4 against power run teams when those teams are utilizing two TEs or a TE+FB, which ended up being a little under 22% of the time. I think if you watch them play against Tennessee, you'll see a lot more traditional 3-4.

They also had rush nickel packages where they'd only have one interior DL type, and 3 or 4 OLB/Edge sized guys to bring the heat.  They ran those packages about 12% of the time.  Add up the 2-4-5, 5-1-5, and the rush/racecar Nickels, and they played various Nickel packages about 60% of the time.

If I understood FSB's analysis correctly, they would have described the Cov 3 Pressure personnel as a 4 CB Dime package. They were in Dime against 4/5 WR offenses, about 16.2% of the time, and brought both 3 Safety and 4 CB Dime packages.  Basically, Filmstudy Baltimore calls it a Dime if there a 6 DBs, whether they're safeties or CBs.

Blue Middle

February 3rd, 2021 at 11:31 PM ^

Great info.  Seems like we are really headed for a 2-4-5 look as our true base (most common) defense, but a 3-4 against run-first teams.  We are certainly recruiting the beef to make both of those possible.

Overall, really looks like the effort is to get favorable match-ups for defense using anywhere from 1-5 defensive lineman based on the offense you're facing.  That feels like a lot to learn and a big ask from a college defense. 

But who knows if we'll even try to run Baltimore's scheme?  Could be Macdonald and Linguist have something else cooking.

rugbypike11

February 4th, 2021 at 10:46 AM ^

Totally agree.  It's fun to look at what the Ravens did for clues and insight, but as others have noted, we could just as easily see a 404 tite package where one of the OLBs is an edge rusher and the other is some kind of hybrid space player.

IMO, they can't run as many formations and complex schemes as the Ravens. We don't have the DBs, nor the time, to implement everything that they did in Baltimore.

I would GUESS that we'll run a 3-4 against big personnel, and a 2-4-5 or 4-2-5 Nickel against spreads, but we're all just guessing for fun at this point.