Monday Recruitin' Gets What It Wants Comment Count

Ace

Second 2015 QB In Play?

Even with Alex Malzone already on campus, quarterback is a major question mark for Michigan not just for 2015, but moving forward, and it appears Jim Harbaugh is going the extra mile to make sure he gives the program as many options as possible at the position:

Carter has a very interesting profile, in part because he doesn't really have one; he's unranked on Rivals and Scout, while ESPN and 247 don't even have pages for him. Carter is picking up major school interest, however, after a senior year in which he led Gilmer to an undefeated state title season in Texas' 4A Division 2 (a medium-sized classification) while posting this stat line: 220-297 (74.1%), 3969 yards (13.4 YPA), 47 TDs, 2 INTs. Pretty good stats, I say.

There are a couple reasons Carter may have flown under the radar. He transferred back to Gilmer this season after spending his junior year at Salado, where he put up less impressive stats for a worse program. It also doesn't look like he hit the camp circuit much at all; the only camp eval I can find is, oddly, from last spring's RCS Detroit camp, per Rivals' Josh Helmholdt ($):

It was a long trip up to Michigan from northeast Texas for Carter, and he made the trip worthwhile by having a solid showing. The 6-foot-1, 180-pound left-handed passer spun the ball very well on Sunday. His tight spirals cut through the wind when it was blowing hard later in the day. Overall Carter showed good arm strength and decent accuracy on his passes.

There's also a free scouting report from Scout after one of his playoff games:

Carter has a good frame (6-2 1/2, 190) and very smooth, left-handed delivery. His delivery isn't completely overhead, but it's close. He has a deceptively strong arm. That's probably because his southpaw delivery looks so smooth and effortless. He awaits his first FBS offer, but should start getting more attention as signing day approaches.

His senior tape, embedded at the top of the post, is pretty impressive; while his arm strength doesn't jump off the page, his accuracy sure does, especially on his deep throws. He also displays decent mobility, and based on both the film and his stats, his decision-making is excellent. He may not be a five-star talent, but he certainly looks like a guy who should at least have some sort of recruiting profile; with interest from the likes of BYU, Oklahoma State, Texas Tech, and now Michigan and Florida of late, that should happen soon.

Whether or not Michigan makes a serious run at Carter (something I now hope they do given the length of this section), it's encouraging that Harbaugh might take a run at another quarterback in this class. That's no knock on Malzone, who I believe is a quality prospect; it'd just be nice to add some depth to the position, especially after what we've witnessed the last couple seasons. Any attrition at that position in the next couple years, given the current construction of the roster, could be really tough to handle.

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The Wheatley Effect

Michigan landing Tyrone Wheatley as running backs coach has one obvious ramification on recruiting trail: the Wolverines are now, based on insider chatter, almost certainly the favorite to land Tyrone Wheatley Jr., who could fill a major need at either TE or DE in the 2015 class.

That won't be the full extent of his recruiting impact, however. 247's Steve Wiltfong caught up with a few Cass Tech coaches and another area coach to discuss four-star 2015 RB Mike Weber, and they got to talking Wheatley ($):

247Sports asked about Tyrone Wheatley being hired, and we were told Wheatley gets who he wants at Cass Tech. We'll see if that holds true with Weber.

Another high school coach in town said that Wheatley's hiring will have a huge impact for Michigan in Detroit in the years moving forward. That same coach said his gut feel is that Weber will end up at Michigan, despite Weber telling him that he's solid to OSU.

Whether or not Michigan reels in Weber, Wheatley should play a big part in in-state recruiting on this staff. He was born in Inkster and played high school ball at Dearborn Heights, and while at Syracuse, he was the primary recruiter for Southfield 2011 four-star TE/DE Ronald Thompson, who chose the Orange over Michigan. Given Wheatley's stint at Syracuse, it also wouldn't surprise if he had a role in recruiting in the northeast, as well.

O-Line Options Emerging

As mentioned previously in this space, Michigan is going to have to go after a couple offensive linemen to round out this class unless they want to risk running into the same depth/youth issues in a couple years that plagued the O-line recently. Lorenz mentioned a couple prospects in his recent Inside Michigan Recruiting article, one a reemerging name and the other a surprise ($).

The one you're probably familiar with is four-star MD OL Patrick Allen, who had plenty of contact with the previous staff before committing to Georgia in August. He backed off that pledge a couple weeks ago, and while Tennessee is considered the favorite, he took an official visit to Michigan even after his Georgia commitment; the Wolverines could be a factor if the new staff makes a push.

The new—and spectacular—name is GA OT Chidi Valentine-Okeke, who sits just outside the top 100 on the 247 Composite, and 247 themselves actually consider him a five-star and the second-best tackle prospect in the country. He told Wolverine247 that if Michigan came through with an offer, he'd use his final official visit to check out Ann Arbor. That seems like a good idea, to say the least, even though the usual SEC powers are all in hot pursuit.

Another O-line prospect who's been mentioned as a distinct possibility is Northville (MI) three-star David Moorman, a Wisconsin commit who may be looking around after Gary Anderson—and his O-line coach, TJ Woods—moved on to Oregon State. In talking to Sam Webb, Moorman said that change "shocked" him, and he's open to hearing what Michigan has to say:

"I'm still 100-percent committed to Wisconsin, but I'm keeping all options open until Signing Day," said Moorman, ranked a four-star recruit by Scout.com and a three-star prospect by Rivals.com. "If Michigan comes calling I'll definitely listen. (Michigan incoming recruit) Alex Malzone keeps calling and texting me, saying I need to come to Michigan.

"There's been nothing official and I haven't heard from anyone on (Michigan's) staff, but if they called I'd seriously listen to what they had to say. I know Jim Harbaugh's a great coach. It would be an honor to get an offer from Michigan.

As a general rule, if Wisconsin wants a guy in your state to play on their O-line, you should probably want that guy, too.

Iman Marshall Sets Officials

Five-star CA CB Iman Marshall is set to hit campus on MLK Day:

While seemingly everyone expects Marshall to end up at USC, he's maintained that he's got a tough choice ahead of him, and he reiterated that to Scout's Greg Biggins after setting his schedule ($):

"I had a great trip to Notre Dame and now I'm excited to take the rest of the visits. I've always liked Florida State and the athletes they bring in. Michigan with Coach Harbaugh is going to do big things for sure. LSU is DBU and I like their style of play and Oregon has really come on strong and showing what a great program they are. USC and UCLA have always been there and I'm close with both coaching staffs so it's going to be a tough decision for me, no doubt."

He added that he has high interest in each of those schools, and the visit process will play a big role in determining which program he chooses on signing day; he may also squeeze in unofficial visits to USC and UCLA, though he's already seen both schools enough times that may not be necessary.

More 2015 Updates

DJ Durkin strikes again. Michigan made a surprise appearance in the top five of four-star DT/OG Kendrick "Big Thick" Norton, which he attributed to the new defensive coordinator hire, per The Wolverine's Tim Sullivan ($):

"Really, with the hire of DJ Durkin, that was the biggest thing," Norton said of his sudden Michigan interest. "I haven't had the chance to talk to him [since he's been up there] as much as I'd like to yet."

Durkin recruited Norton while he was at Florida, and the Gators had been the favorite to land him until they fired the coaching staff. Not by coincidence, Florida no longer shows up among his favorite schools—Miami (YTM), North Carolina, Ole Miss, and UCLA round out his top five, with Auburn lurking just behind the pack. Norton took an unofficial to Ann Arbor over the summer, and he's got an open official visit spot that he's considering using to make it back up to Michigan.

Michigan is right in the mix for three-star SC WDE/OLB Rasool Clemons. Durkin has already discussed the potential to play the hybrid rush end spot with Clemons, and if Michigan decides to put forth an offer, they'd be in his top three, per Sam Webb ($):

“LSU, Virginia, and Michigan… those are my top three if Michigan offers me,” said Clemons. “I’m just waiting until Coach Chris (Singletary) calls my coach and set (a visit) up.” 

Clemons added that Jim Harbaugh and Les Miles were both coaches he considered a "my dream coach to play for" growing up.

Three-star LA DE Jalen Bates is also being considered for that hybrid spot, and unlike Clemons he already has a Michigan offer in hand. While Bates told Webb he wasn't totally sure if he wanted to take an official to Michigan—he's committed to Arizona State—it sounds like he could be convinced to do so ($):

“It would take a lot of explaining and kind of selling the place to me for me to go.  I’m pretty solid, so I wouldn’t want to start a bunch of controversy.  It would have to be something that I couldn’t turn it down and I would have to go see.  I’ve been there before.  I grew up watching Michigan, so it wouldn’t be impossible and this time would be perfect to go check it out because it is so cold.  Going up there and being in the cold and seeing if I can take it would (answer a major question).  So right now would be a perfect time to take an official.”

Michigan also entered the fray for a couple four-star receiver prospects, though it may be too late to be a real player in either of their recruitments. Steve Lorenz confirmed that the Wolverines have showed interest in CA four-star Equanimeous St. Brown, but while an offer could earn M an official visit, St. Brown has been considered a strong Notre Dame lean for a while ($).

It's tough to get a read on M's chances with four-star TX WR DaMarkus Lodge. In talking to GBW's Kyle Bogenschutz, Lodge made it clear that he's very intrigued by the Harbaugh hire ($):

“With Michigan getting Harbaugh I have very high interest in Michigan now,” Lodge told Scout. “He’s a successful coach and a successful man.”

Watching Harbaugh’s 49ers team closely over the last four seasons, coaching the likes of Michael Crabtree, Anquan Bolden and others, Lodge called himself a “perfect fit” for the offensive style he could employ in Ann Arbor.

Lodge also mentioned that with official visits to Texas A&M and Ole Miss scheduled the next two weekends, however, Michigan is unlikely to get a visit, and "they're probably out of it now."

Oh, Right, There Are Actual Commits To Monitor

Michigan pledge Grant Newsome took part in the Semper Fi All-American Bowl; Tim Sullivan caught up with his coach at the event, who came away impressed with Newsome's ability ($):

"It's not that I was not expecting it, but I think his pass protection was something that was ahead of his run blocking at this stage of the game," Hansen said. "A lot of times, you get the opposite for a high school kid, where they're more comfortable run blocking. He was more versed in protection part of it. 

"You want both, but that doesn't happen very often [at the high school level], and to have a guy who's strong in protection already, that's the way you'd want it. It's tougher for kids to adapt that than run blocking."

The coach also praised Newsome's work ethic and length ("you can't teach 6-7"). Footwork and strength were the main areas he pointed out as needing to improve, the usual suspects for a high school lineman.

Comments

AnthonyThomas

January 12th, 2015 at 2:13 PM ^

Word is Clemons decommitted from Virginia because he wasn't going to qualify academically.

And Wheatley still maintains that Michigan is outside of his top group. That's after his dad's hiring was confirmed. 

Ace

January 12th, 2015 at 2:30 PM ^

Tried to change it, got an error. Working on getting it fixed but I can't do it from my computer, apparently.

If anybody has figured out a workaround after getting this error message...

  • The selected file /tmp/mgoavatar.jpeg could not be copied.
  • Failed to upload the picture image; the pictures directory doesn't exist or is not writable.

...holler at me.

TenThousandThings

January 12th, 2015 at 6:01 PM ^

I had an email exchange with Brian about it long ago, and he said they were aware of it. I think if an account predates a certain point in time (around the time of the great malware incursion), then the problem arises when you try to change your picture.

Anyhow, I gave up waiting and started a new identity just to get an avatar -- mostly because I like this one so much. Points don't really matter -- the worst part was losing my join date, from mid 2009. People tend to give you more respect when you've been around for a while.

[EDIT: Breaking News! See my post as "Rasmus" below -- there is a workaround for this!]

Rasmus

January 12th, 2015 at 6:25 PM ^

The GIF thing works!

I am "TenThousandThings" of the post directly above. This is my old account, the one I was referring to. I still can't upload JPGs to it, but GIFs work!

Ace, you should absiolutely give SCarolinaMaize some MGoBonusPoints for discovering this workaround, and not the kind that go away after a while!

[NOTE: I've always used Mac OS X -- the bug is not caused by Windows 7.]

getsome

January 12th, 2015 at 3:23 PM ^

i cant imagine the young wheatleys position, must be tough.  hes gotta do whats best for him but hes got an excellent list of options.  college ball should be best 4-5 years of his life, it was for me.  

i would not want to follow my pops to school, itd be tough dealing with that father / coach dynamic, not mention his pops remains a legend and no one really knows how he feels about following 6's footsteps.  

plus it could be odd bumping into your pops hungover in trainers room in the am or your boys ragging you in front of pops for questionable 2 am rendezvous

MaizeAndBlueWahoo

January 12th, 2015 at 3:42 PM ^

Word is Clemons decommitted from Virginia because he wasn't going to qualify academically.

Correct on Clemons.  I got the impression he wasn't even going to qualify with a year of prep school.  (Either that or he didn't want to, but the former seems closer to the truth.)  He's almost definitely juco bound.  I don't think he's going to be an option.

ChicagoGangViolins

January 12th, 2015 at 2:17 PM ^

 

A rhesus monkey test subject being administered crack. Please no withdrawal testing. Moar crack please. Moar!

 

Zarniwoop

January 12th, 2015 at 2:17 PM ^

If it were any other coach, I'd say there's no chance he fills the holes we have in our pipeline by signing day.

With Harbaugh, we have a chance.

Expect some "WTF, where did THAT come from?" moments on signing day. Expect them all to work out. He strikes me as someone that knows exactly how to hande this and every other situation in real terms.

UMaD

January 12th, 2015 at 2:20 PM ^

In Texas HS football.  But there is a reason Carter could be misevaluated or underappreciated - his WRs are studs headed for D1 scholarships.

 

toomer18

January 12th, 2015 at 2:23 PM ^

I like QB's being recruited by the likes of BYU, Ok State, and Texas Tech. Those schools always know how to find quarterbacks. Seems every year they have really good ones, and they are rarely if ever "big time" recruits

bluepdx

January 12th, 2015 at 2:34 PM ^

If we get even one or two of these guys who are newly interested, it'll be a coup.

But, the important thing is that we're back in the conversation. Somehow, Hoke had us in the conversation for a few years (without tangible results, unfortunately), and that changed dramatically as this season progressed.

Under normal circumstances, it would take years to climb back up that ladder in the eyes of the best recruits.

But the Harbaugh (and Durkin) hire changed that instantly, even for guys already committed elsewhere.

Amazing.

And, go Ducks!!!!

blueinbelfast

January 12th, 2015 at 4:03 PM ^

This is a non-comment.

What this season demonstrated, recruiting-wise, is that programs that will soon fire their coach, so that therefore you, as a recruit have absolutely no idea who you will be playing for, do not get top-notch recruits.  Nothing more than that.

 

 

Don

January 12th, 2015 at 2:34 PM ^

...Carter showed good arm strength and decent accuracy on his passes."

Pshaw. This is unpossible, because Bagheera says:

"Poor measurables, weak arm strength, mediocre competition.  Those deep balls hang a lot, and I don't see a lot of zip on intermediate throws."

The fact that Helmholdt saw Carter throw in person shouldn't count for anything, amirite?

 

GoBLUinTX

January 12th, 2015 at 3:56 PM ^

Carter does have quite a lot of hang time on his passes, however I wouldn't say it's due to lack of arm strength.  It could well be that a bit of minimal tweaking can flatten his passes while not giving away accuracy.  Having said that, the last time Michigan played for all the marbles the QB didn't exactly have a rocket arm.

mastodon

January 12th, 2015 at 8:23 PM ^

Agree.  Looks to me that he zips it just fine if the situation calls for it.  There are a few examples there on film.  He says his best trait is being cool under pressure.  That's probably the most distinguishing trait of big-time QBs.  It is rarely coachable, and has been almost completely absent in our QBs of late.  Very intriguing prospect.  I say bring him in.