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|5 days 20 hours ago||On the other hand...||
Perhaps he went to the Jags specifically to coach Denard. That would be an excellent decision.
|5 days 20 hours ago||Those were 2 ideas: 1: worse||
Those were 2 ideas:
|5 days 20 hours ago||Do you honestly think he||
Do you honestly think he wasn't expecting to land one of the open HC jobs?
The 'he didn't like Buffalo' angle (at least enough to leave a job) seems spurious for a guy who went to and coached Syracuse. As for him not liking his co-workers or owner, shit happens; it's not a great reason to leave.
As for Harbaugh, come on Magnus, is that even remotely the same thing? Guy leaves NFL to take 'Savior' HC job at one of the most prestigious and historically successful big-time college programs (that also happens to be his beloved alma mater) vs. guy leaves NFL HC job to become vaguely titled assistant coach at worse NFL team in Jacksonville?
I'm just gonna come right out and say it was a bad decision. And I'm pretty sure he knows it too.
|5 days 20 hours ago||I don't know. HC jobs don't||
I don't know. HC jobs don't grow on trees. And it's not like he'll be the hottest name on the market next year after toiling away in anonymity in Jacksonville for a year.
|1 week 6 days ago||I hadn't thought I needed to||
I hadn't thought I needed to explain that the point of the thread was the tone-deafness of Meyer and OSU in bringing the issue of tattoos back to the fore when that was the very issue that brought the program into disrepute just a few short years back. Like you, I couldn't give a shit about whether Urban Meyer gets a tattoo, but yes the optics are pretty bad.
You don't like the thread, don't read it. The title itself gave it away.
|1 week 6 days ago||Exactly!||
That's what I was trying to reference. You seem to be the first (and only) to pick it up!
|1 week 6 days ago||Wishful thinking||
The best team almost loses at least one or two games every year, even when dominant. We can hate that they won it, but let's not take away what they did. They beat the hell out of a very good team with their 3rd string quarterback. You can try to denigrate that if you want, but you'll find yourself in pretty weak company. We can't be hoping for Ohio State to be weak--it's not happening anytime soon. The only thing we can hope for (and finally there is very good reason for this hope) is that Michigan will soon be just as good as they are, setting up epic battles in the B1G once again.
|1 week 6 days ago||??||
This is a non-comment.
What this season demonstrated, recruiting-wise, is that programs that will soon fire their coach, so that therefore you, as a recruit have absolutely no idea who you will be playing for, do not get top-notch recruits. Nothing more than that.
|2 weeks 6 days ago||Even a stopped clock...||
For once, you gotta agree with those idiots in Columbus.
|3 weeks 3 min ago||Not the end of the world||
Honestly, as long as Durkin is indeed coming, this doesn't seem like a major problem to me. In fact, I was starting to worry that it was (as someone had mentioned) a potential 'too many cooks' situation in the making.
A bit bummed over Marrow and Turley (if the noises we're hearing are true), but come on, aren't we getting just a little bit greedy?
|4 weeks 2 days ago||A little conversation||
I think you have to expect that even if everything we've been told is true, Harbaugh will talk to the Raiders, if only out of courtesy (after all, it is reasonable to believe tha Harbaugh has an eventual NFL return in the back of his mind, and the Raiders always need a new coach, don't they?). If Harbaugh has given people assurances in the way he seems to have, a polite conversation is nothing to fear--he seems to be a man of some integrity.
|4 weeks 5 days ago||Reading skills||
If that's how you read it, you need to work on your reading. Baalke cannot prevent Harbaugh from going to Michigan if he so desires. Therefore, if he wants to keep him, he's going to have to do more than just say fairly blandly positive things about his very desired coah (if you think those statements were raves you must be very easy to impress). Harbaugh has been insulted by Baalke and York all season and they have said very little to suggest they want to keep him. If this is the best they can do, it ain't much--but it isn't, because they're not even trying. He's not gonna go out there and say, "screw that guy, we can't wait to be rid of him".
|5 weeks 2 days ago||NFL will always be there||
I'd be very surprised if some version of "In the long term, the NFL will continue to be an option for you, but this is almost certainly your only chance to coach Michigan" doesn't make its way into Hackett's discussion with Harbaugh. Sure they'd love him to stay forever, but the best way to fend off the desire to win the Super Bowl objection is to make sure he understands that that dream will still be plausible.
|5 weeks 3 days ago||It's all about narrative||
I think the issue for many of us is that the narrative is just so damn compelling. With all the talk of how Bo was his hero and idol and his love for Michigan, it is incomprehensible to us (particularly alumni) that you could be offered the chance to come in (with no real financial loss) and be the savior of the university that we have to presume he feels as much about as we do and then turn it down.
It is true that none of us will ever be faced with the choice of coaching Michigan or an NFL team, but we all believe we would choose Michigan. Whether that is a realistic conclusion (kind of like "I never would have cooperated with the Nazis") is another question, and is an easy choice to make when its not a real one. Still, I'd like to say that I'd do the right thing (in both hypotheticals).
He may not be hated if he turns us down, but I don't think he'll ever be loved, or considered a true Michigan Man if he leaves us in the lurch in our hour of need.
|6 weeks 4 days ago||Let's not talk to anyone||
Let's not talk to anyone other than our top 3 choices. That way if they don't pan out we can start a search from scratch in January! Great idea!
|6 weeks 5 days ago||College experience?||
My issue with NFL coordinators would be the complete black hole in the portion of the resume in which you get some sense of their ability to recruit. Yes, it's great that you can say you coached x, y, and z players in the League, but if you can't deal with parents or deeply egotistical 16-year-olds (and let's face it--who wants to?), it's far from clear that you can get them to come play for you.
|7 weeks 1 day ago||The Eye Test||
Based on what we've seen out of him first hand against us alone, he should get a look in. He's been a consistent winner and seems to do it the right way. Worth a look, just in case Christmas never comes.
|7 weeks 4 days ago||Yes, I was joking. So much||
Yes, I was joking. So much so that I didn't think the old '/s' was necessary... Ahhh, well
|7 weeks 4 days ago||Jeez...people are touchy.||
Jeez...people are touchy. Lighten up!
|7 weeks 4 days ago||Are you for real?||
No, at no level would I (or most sane people) entertain the idea of any current NFL player (or anyone who has never coached a game in his life) as the Head Coach at the University of Michigan. Maybe Pioneer High.
|7 weeks 4 days ago||Recruiting? Two years as OC?||
Only recruiting experience=1 year as 'recruiting assistant at LSU? 2 years as OC (for the Broncos, who could pretty much be OC'd by Peyton himself?)
|7 weeks 4 days ago||???||
Yes, because coaches usually take jobs on the expectation that the crappy team that had to fire its coach the year before will be championship level in year one.
Do you expect that? Does anyone but the most deluded in this fanbase?
|7 weeks 4 days ago||Can we get Hoke to earn his buyout?||
If the Harbaughs respect Brady so much and don't want to hurt his feelings, can Hackett maybe get him to call Jim and beg him to take the job to clean up the mess he's left and restore Michigan to the point that no one ever again questions whether Michigan is a destination job, fergodsakes?
|7 weeks 5 days ago||Bargaining power||
Brian is 100% right on this, and this was my first thought on seeing that FootballScoop nonsense. Why would Harbaugfh give away long term bargaining leverage by announcing that he's not interested in the one viable competitor to whatever NFL team would acquire him in a trade. Answer: He wouldn't. We may not get Harbaugh, but nobody (other than Harbaugh himself) knows that for sure at this point.
|7 weeks 6 days ago||Again, agreed||
Don't get me wrong, Michigan shouldn't back away assuming they can't get him. They MUST offer the job and do all they can to convince him to take it. But if the GM/Coach thing does come up, you couldn't blame him for taking it.
|7 weeks 6 days ago||Agreed||
I totally agree with you--just assumptions, but, as you say, probably fair ones.
As for what the current Jets and Raiders GMs think, I can't speak to Oakland's situation, but if you listen to NY media, Idzik (Jets' GM) has very little chance of surviving the year. He and Rex are almost certainly gone.
|7 weeks 6 days ago||If someone's going to offer||
If someone's going to offer him a GM/Coach position in the NFL with a minimum 4-5 year commitment, he'll take it, and he should. The only chance we have is if the offers are just coaching gigs where he is stuck, in Bill Parcell's words, making dinner without picking out the ingredients. Other than sentiment, which several have mentioned, the only other advantage college offers is the ability to put together your own team (of course, given the time and energy commitment, for some that's a disadvantage); if the NFL can offer him that as well, it would be awfully tough to see him saying no. Someone mentioned the Giants being a better gig than the Jets or Oakland. That's debatable (and I'm a Giants fan), but if the GM position is involved it's a moot point. The ability to shape a team to his liking makes any job palatable (indeed, the challenge in that case may almost become a draw for his ego).
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|9 weeks 4 days ago||Sports reporting (and maybe reporting in general)||
I think it's great that reporters can simply use the words "Sources tell me..." and spew any bullshit they'd like.
Not saying that some of that isn't possible, but I'd love to know who these sources are.
|9 weeks 5 days ago||How to delete?||
Sorry for the multiple posts. The sites gone all wonky for me.
|9 weeks 5 days ago||Minnesota||
Unrealistic though it may have been, I held on to the slim possibility that 'The Big Ten title is still out there as a goal'. That was the only thing that could have saved him in my eyes. After Minnesota it was clear that wasn't happening either and that we would be lucky to even go .500.
Utah made it tough to imagine keeping him, but Minnesota was the death knell.