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Michigan-ND Throwbacks: Possibly Paleozoic

By Brian — May 20th, 2011 at 11:12 AM — 163 comments
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We haven't had a good uniform PANIC for a while, so… yeah… here's… this:

ugly-ass-jerseys

That, according to your favorite newspaper, resembles the "throwback" uniforms Michigan will don this fall. You'll note a few things:

your eyeballs are melting out of your sockets

those uniforms don't look anything like those of the 1960s, which look essentially identical to today's with the exception of the helmets…

1964-uniforms

…unless they were day-glo orange or something. I think MVictors would have notified us if this was the case by now.

there is a distinct resemblance between these monstrosities and the Big Chill stripey-bucktooth-weasel thing…

big-chill-monstrosity

…in that both were obviously designed by Joad Cressbeckler. Doctor Saturday pointed me to this image of Michigan's uniforms down the years in which the only vague resemblance between the above and something from history is Michigan's 1891 uniforms.

we must have no taste if the Big Chill jerseys sold well enough for this to seem like a good idea.

Let's hope this a practical joke played on the Free Press as revenge, I guess. Get off my lawn.

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May 20th, 2011 at 12:22 PM
#102
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Shouldn't throwback uniforms

Shouldn't throwback uniforms, by default, have been worn at least once in the past?

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May 20th, 2011 at 12:26 PM
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I'd rather

I'd rather they bring back their helmet stickers.

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May 20th, 2011 at 12:27 PM
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Nothing but a marketing campaign to sell jerseys. Disgusting!

 

What is wrong with this uniform?

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May 20th, 2011 at 12:36 PM
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There is nothing wrong

with 'this' uniform. That is, arguably, the best version of the UM football uniform ever. Love it!

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May 20th, 2011 at 12:41 PM
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At least they're not maize

Like a lot of folks here, I don't think the uniforms look terrible, but I'm bothered by the fact that they've never been worn in M history. Which means these aren't "throwbacks," they're just "alternates," or Adidas's version of Nike's Pro Combat.

But as soon as they mentioned throwbacks, we had to imagine something stupid was going to come out of it. Other than slapping a block M on the front of the home jersey (which may not even be allowed anymore) there's not a whole lot they CAN do to make something unique that they think people will buy.

Let's just not buy these and tell Dave Brandon in an angry barrage of emails that we won't buy these, and they'll go away.

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May 20th, 2011 at 12:42 PM
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These throwbacks certainly aren't "historic" . . .

I always through throwback jerseys were supposed to recreate history, not rewrite it or create it out of whole cloth.  What was shown in the Freep looks like a combination of the 1891 jersey strips with a M varsity lettermen's sweater.  There is no single, past Michigan football jersey that looks anything remotely like it.  In contrast, the hockey team uniforms for the Big Chill was based on what the team actually wore in the 1940s. 

I think it comes down to what Adidas and David Brandon thinks will sell to the general public.  Along with others, I thought Michigan would resurrect the look from the mid-60s by putting numerals on the helmets and block M's on the shoulders.  The problem with that from a marketing standpoint is that this type of throwback doesn't differentiate much from the current uniform.  If you want to sell them to the typical fan in any number, they're going to have to be markedly different.

I'm sure Brandon will spin this in such a way to say that it combines elements of uniforms from Michigan's plast into a single jersey or something like that.  I actually like the idea of unveiling them at night under the lights at Michigan Stadium.  The final product, though, might leave something to be desired.  The hockey team looked okay with all the stripes on the helmets and on their sweaters--I'm not so sure it's going to look quite so good on the football team.  

 

 

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May 20th, 2011 at 12:43 PM
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I think NCAA rules require a

I think NCAA rules require a number on the front of football jerseys.  These will not be worn at the ND game. 

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May 20th, 2011 at 12:46 PM
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what's the point

What's the point of wearing throwbacks when the only difference is in the design of the number, or the lack of a number on the shoulder.  Nobody would even know but us diehards, the announcers would crack jokes about it as they had to show the telecast images of the two jerseys side by side and then point out the differences.  I think the ones the freep put up look sweet, even if we never wore them, they look like something a Michigan team from the 1940s would wear. 

I even like the hockey alternates, my only beef is the nasty yellow but since we've adopted that color for all of our teams I guess it doesn't matter, but I love that logo.  It reminds me of the one with the wolverine wearing that sailor or conductors hat or whatever, that one's sweet too, as soon as I saw it, I bought a shirt with that logo on it.

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May 20th, 2011 at 2:07 PM
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We had a football team in the

We had a football team in the 40s and a great insitutional memory.  For a school as steeped as we are in tradition, its kind of insulting to past when we hypothetically reimagine it.

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May 20th, 2011 at 2:45 PM
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I think it looks terrible.  I

I think it looks terrible.  I also think it's just a "replica" throwback jersey not meant to be worn in-game, but for general public consumption.  The real throwback jersey will look much different.

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May 20th, 2011 at 12:51 PM
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I'll reserve judgement until after I know the final score...

these will look great on Martin as he makes Cave or Golic his donkey come fall.  I'll buy whatever the U is selling...but they know that already obviously.  I wouldn't mind this in a nice rugby style material like the originals came in.

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May 20th, 2011 at 12:54 PM
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May 20th, 2011 at 12:58 PM
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high school kids will love

high school kids will love this.  and truthfully, their opinion counts more than ours.  or at least those of us, who like me, stopped trying to dress cool a while ago.

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May 20th, 2011 at 1:23 PM
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No offense but if you stopped

No offense but if you stopped dressing fashionably long ago, then what makes you so certain of your ability to know what high school kids will like?  

Any high schooler that would think about wearing this thing to school is one that's probably already getting his lunch money stolen on a daily basis.

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May 20th, 2011 at 1:03 PM
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LMAO @ anyone that still

LMAO @ anyone that still thinks signing with Adidas was a good idea.

They seriously suck major ass compared to Nike.  Anyone that can't see that by now is blind.  

Many of those crazy Nike tech-future/throwback/military jerseys (which are total crap, and which everyone, rightfully, threw up in their mouth in response to) look better than the atrocity pictured in this post.

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May 20th, 2011 at 1:21 PM
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LYAO, then.

It was a good idea to sign with Adidas, because they gave us more money.  More money than Nike, and more money than they gave any other school.

We would not have won any more games with Nike than we did with Adidas, so the only question left is who will make us more money.  To pretend that something almost exactly like this monstrous uniform wouldn't also have happened with a Nike contract is crazy.

 

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May 20th, 2011 at 1:08 PM
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can we get that beaver-tailed puppy

on the football unis, too?

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May 20th, 2011 at 1:16 PM
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I can't

I can't get jiggy with this shit.

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May 20th, 2011 at 1:19 PM
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I really liked the Big Chill

I really liked the Big Chill jerseys.  I generally love most throwbacks.

But I want these to be burned in a cardboard box in an alley like Frank Costanza's cabanawear.

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May 20th, 2011 at 1:25 PM
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If we wear those

I think it forbids us from ever making fun of anything Ohio State or Oregon wear.

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May 20th, 2011 at 1:29 PM
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Man, I didn't expect to come

Man, I didn't expect to come home and read so many rage filled posts regarding the uniforms.  It's just a jersey man.  It's the sign of the times.......like luxury suites, night games, and whale-sized high definition video scoreboards. 

Go (striped) Blue!

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May 20th, 2011 at 1:30 PM
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May 20th, 2011 at 1:40 PM
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Let's give the AD some feedback...

...not sure if this has been mentioned, but IMO this was "leaked" while they are tweeking the jerseys in order to get some "feedback."  That way they can hopefuly avoid a PR problem.

 

So, if you HATE the jerseys, let the AD know.

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May 20th, 2011 at 2:10 PM
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lets hope so

kindof like the way they handled the division break up last fall where Brandon mentioned the possibility of not having Michigan-OSU play the last game of the season.

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May 20th, 2011 at 1:46 PM
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Oh please no.

They better not remove the last vestige of our pride.

Lets quick cut a deal with the domers... we'll wear our 1975 throwbacks with white pants and they can wear their ugly green jerseys.

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May 20th, 2011 at 2:05 PM
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Of course -

The gold pants are very desirable these days.

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May 20th, 2011 at 2:24 PM
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Barring the huge block M,

Barring the huge block M, these come close to resembling what we wore in 1891.

UM Jersey

I'll wait until something a bit more official is released or leaked from Adidas before I believe this is what we'll wear. 

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May 20th, 2011 at 2:41 PM
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"these come close to resembling what we wore in 1891."

Aside from the fact that the sleeves on the "throwback" are shorter, the stripes are much thinner, the torso is dark blue instead of tan, they have a large number, and there's no outer sleeveless shirt, they're a very close match.

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May 20th, 2011 at 3:04 PM
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Ahhh clever comeback, smart

Ahhh clever comeback, smart ass.  While we're at it, I'm sure the jerseys won't be made out of a heavy wool/cotton blend either.  And they'll probably wear helmets that aren't made of leather and have facemasks.

Of course, they'll not have long sleeves.  They also don't have "TV Numbers" back then like there is today.   I was talking from a pure design aspect if you're going to compare them to anything we've previously wore.  IMO, they come close to resembling the 1891 ones. 

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May 20th, 2011 at 2:56 PM
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Freddy Krueger wearing a tan

Freddy Krueger wearing a tan vest?

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May 20th, 2011 at 2:37 PM
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"What's the point of wearing throwbacks..."

Money. There is literally no other point to the proposition. If David Brandon believed he wouldn't be able to make a profit on selling replicas of these dumpster fires, there would be no discussion of "throwbacks" that don't actually throwback to anything in our history.

Looking on the bright side, it's nice that they don't sport the obese muskrat that the Big Chill jerseys did.

 

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May 20th, 2011 at 2:54 PM
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This is a really great jersey.....

.....for me to poop on.

 

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May 20th, 2011 at 2:57 PM
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Those suck.

Those suck.

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May 20th, 2011 at 3:31 PM
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Why mess with the best

Why mess with the best uniform in college football.  I remember a few years ago against lil' bro, when we made that huge 4th Q comeback and the game went into the evening.  The uniforms looked so great in the night.  These "throwback Uni's" look like complete crap.  We are Michigan damn it, we don't need to pull these stunts. 

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May 20th, 2011 at 3:46 PM
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Calm down everyone. They're cool.

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May 20th, 2011 at 5:33 PM
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Could you be more wrong?

No.

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May 20th, 2011 at 5:11 PM
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A wise man once told me...

"If it aint' broke...don't fix it." And besides, our unis look amazing under the lights..remember last years' penn state game?

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May 20th, 2011 at 5:14 PM
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A wise man once told me...

"If it aint' broke...don't fix it." And besides, our unis look amazing under the lights..remember last years' penn state game?

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May 20th, 2011 at 5:14 PM
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A wise man once told me...

"If it aint' broke...don't fix it." And besides, our unis look amazing under the lights..remember last years' penn state game?

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May 20th, 2011 at 5:14 PM
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A wise man once told me...

"If it aint' broke...don't fix it." And besides, our unis look amazing under the lights..remember last years' penn state game?

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May 20th, 2011 at 5:16 PM
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i have a great idea..

how bout both teams wear the1985s..that way we wouldn't have to change anything..

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May 20th, 2011 at 6:10 PM
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Bzzzzz

What the hell is the deal with all the stripes? We look like a bunch of frickin' maize-and-blue bumblebees.

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May 20th, 2011 at 7:21 PM
#144
TrppWlbrnID
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I go away for 1 day

And this is what you guys let happen? Grounded, all of you. Especially you Dave Brandon and your points of sales.

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May 20th, 2011 at 7:43 PM
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DB doesn't listen to anyone's

DB doesn't listen to anyone's opinions unless they have >10,000 points.  Sorry kid.

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May 21st, 2011 at 12:57 AM
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TrppWlbrnID
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Got 3 months

To turn up the snark

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May 20th, 2011 at 9:34 PM
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I like the jerseys.

It's for one stupid game. Get over it.

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May 20th, 2011 at 10:12 PM
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One more historical reference

When I was looking at the post about the Michigan helmets from the Omaha paper, I noticed this image that probably closest matches the throwbacks that have surfaced.

It's not clear when these are from but it's sometime after the helmets went to molded plastic from leather (c. 1937) and before facemasks (c. ???)

The stripes don't look bad here because there not so close together as in the proposed throwback designs. Or it could be that they are longer sleeves that were probably used in a cool fall game day Saturday opposed to the second weekend of September.

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May 21st, 2011 at 9:14 AM
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So based on these pictures

Would having the normal jersey with a striped long sleeve undershirt type layer be the same?

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May 21st, 2011 at 2:42 PM
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Don
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"image that probably closest matches the throwbacks..."

You've apparently missed the fact that those jerseys aren't UM jerseys at all, but Princeton jerseys, and helmets. The photo is immediately adjacent to this part of the text:

"Crisler's design for the Princeton helmet graced the cover of Spalding's Official Football Guide for 1938. The photo depicts action from Princeton's game against the University of Chicago, Crisler's alma mater."

For a look at the entire cover from which that small fragment is taken, see this:

http://cgi.ebay.com/1938-SPALDINGS-OFFICIAL-FOOTBALL-GUIDE-GROUP-2-No-32...

In other words, that dumpster fire throwback that Brandon is considering bears the closest resemblance to a Princeton jersey, not a UM jersey. The fact that future UM coach Fritz Crisler was coach of Princeton at the time doesn't alter that fact.

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May 20th, 2011 at 10:48 PM
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I Love These. You would

I Love These.

You would think the original idea was to put 3 stripes on the shoulders in reference to our helmet stripes. If we were still with Nike, we'd do that. 3 stripes with adidas is akin to saying Michigan is a shill. But i love the stitching over the M and numerals. I love the look. These will look good on football players.

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