dropped by drop coverage [Marc-Gregor Campredon]

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Brian March 3rd, 2021 at 12:08 PM

3/2/2021 – Michigan 53, Illinois 76 – 18-2, 13-2 Big Ten

It does a body good to snap back to reality after a pleasant daydream. A splash of water; a bracing winter wind; a playful pinch from a person you love. All of these are ways to return to a full, unblinkered view of your surroundings. There are also other ways. Ways that are less good. Ways like being shoved out of a plane by a bear, and then having that bear jump out of the plane and plummet into you, flipping you off the whole time. This is guaranteed to make you hyper-aware of your surroundings for upwards of ten seconds.

Anyway, a basketball game. Technically. Yesterday's… uh… event felt less like a sporting contest and more like one of those nightmares where you show up to an exam with no knowledge of the subject matter, wearing only your underwear and maybe an unflattering hat. A fever dream of how Michigan bombs out of the NCAA tournament.  So bad it felt unreal.

I don't really know what conclusions to draw. It started off as an ugly slugfest where Hunter Dickinson and Kofi Cockburn took turns demonstrating that the other guy was pretty good on defense, too, and then Andre Curbelo came in and broke the game open. Curbelo got to the basket almost at will; he went 6/7 there. Michigan—the whole team—had a total of 7 makes at the basket, period. Three of those came from Austin Davis, who occasionally bamboozled Cockburn with sheer persistence.

Eventually it became clear that Michigan was getting Michigan'd.

The preview noted that Illinois was very similar to Michigan statistically: eFG kings on both ends, turnovers optional on defense, limit threes, limit assists, no post doubles. Illinois, unsurprisingly for a team that has a couple of lead-footed centers, is a drop coverage team that doesn't leave shooters. Jordan Sperber's diagnosis of what happened last night is almost word-for-word what Michigan did to teams like Wisconsin:

Michigan got up 7 threes, 15 shots at the rim, and had 27 midrange shots. Seven of the latter went down. That's a cool 0.52 points per possession.

You don't need any explanations other than that, which is unfortunate because you can weave other problems that are ephemeral. Their legs were shot, they had a bad shooting performance, Franz saw the wrong kind of dog that morning, etc. These are often thrown out when something inexplicable happens; what happened here was nothing of the sort. It followed from the actions Michigan could run and the shots they could get. Since those shots were largely garbage, Michigan scored 53.

In a way, this is a blessing. Illinois stuck a finger into a heretofore unknown weakness and started ripping out big chunks of wall. Minnesota did the same thing earlier in the year when their rampant doubling neutralized Dickinson and forced him into five turnovers. Michigan fixed that emphatically.

This one feels like a tougher fix, but at least the recipe to throw at Michigan is much tougher than "double the post." To replicate what Illinois did you have to be able to play Dickinson one-on-one, relentlessly stick to shooters, and overwhelm their guards athletically. A lot of teams might be able to do one or two of those things. Three is a tall order. And now Juwan Howard will go back to the lab and see what he can do.

[After THE JUMP: perimeter ball denial]

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this end went okay [Campredon]

I just don't know, man. Hunter Dickinson's third foul was extremely frustrating because it came immediately after Cockburn picked up two quick ones and had to go to the bench early in the second half. Dickinson's third was boxing out Bezhanishvili on a rebound that ended up nowhere near either of them. The result:

Davis was minus a billion in his 13 minutes despite going 4/4 from the floor; Dickinson finished with three fouls. He was also 1/8 from the floor, so you can see some rationale for making the switch. Once it starts going badly, though, it felt like a switch back was necessary.

Hopefully this isn't as much of an issue going forward because Michigan will be overwhelmed with centers who want to play for Juwan Howard. Foul trouble will be far less terrifying for next year's Dickinson/Diabate battery.

Denial up top. Another key part of the Illinois defense: aggressive perimeter ball denial, particularly on Mike Smith. Michigan struggled to get into their sets because Illinois was super aggressive on dribble hand offs; with time ticking down there were few opportunities for Michigan to run the varied and elaborate parts of their offense that have worked so well to get Michigan open shots.

This is partially an athleticism thing. Illinois has a lot of it, even without Dosunmu, and while Smith has been excellent this year he still has the athletic profile of an Ivy kid. Trent Frazier is not supposed to be the Illinois defensive specialist but he was certainly the most impactful Illinois defender outside of Cockburn in this one:

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Michigan will no doubt go back to the drawing board in an effort to combat this kind of thing, which threatens to become a Book on them.

Yeet me into the sun. If you're looking for someone uninvolved to blame, it's definitely me. One: I have been trying to make Weird Illinois a thing. I did not think the consequences of this endeavor would be an Ayo-less version of the Illini beating Michigan's head in on the road. I should have known, because that was the weirdest possible outcome.

Two: the previous game column was all about how Michigan does not suffer runs. Right on cue:

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I was surprised that Illinois didn't have a ten-point run somewhere in there prior to having a 21-point lead; instead they had a couple different 8-0 spurts.

The defense was mostly fine? Michigan gave up 33 points in the first half, and things only got really bad late in the first half and early in the second when Dickinson was stuck on the bench with foul trouble. When he was present Illinois struggled to score, at least until the game was out of hand and we had reached the desultory period.

Hoop Lens has not incorporated this game yet, which is unfortunate because I'm guessing the Davis on/offs on defense are eyepopping.

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contested [Campredon]

Silver lining. Dickinson to the NBA takes are cooling off significantly. He has definitely hit a scouting wall; he's down to 58% from two in Big Ten play after scraping absurd heights during the first half of the season. I have faith he'll get back to being dominant—and even during this period of struggle he's been an incredible defender—but probably after an offseason to focus on self-scouting and adapting to how people are playing him.

Comments

stephenrjking

March 3rd, 2021 at 12:22 PM ^

Yep.

The worry here is that the things Illinois did were things that Illinois does. 

This was not a fluke. Illinois can do this stuff again. So, perhaps, can other teams with energetic guards, though the post game will be more problematic. This is a matchup problem for Michigan and we'll have a hard time winning a rematch if we get one. 

...Which doesn't mean it's impossible. 1989 and all. 

jmblue

March 3rd, 2021 at 12:26 PM ^

Probably the only way we'd face the Illini in the tournament would be in the Final Four, and in that case I'd be happy with the season regardless.  (We might face them in the BTT, but so what.)

But let's hope there are no teams in our region with their profile.  Cockburn being able to handle Dickinson without help is a game-changer.

matty blue

March 3rd, 2021 at 12:36 PM ^

agreed, although i'd say that illinois is not, in my opinion,  a very disciplined team; trent frazier played a great, great game, but he's more likely to explode in every direction than he is to do that again.  illinois - again, just my opinion - are seemingly more likely than we are have long stretches of crap, and yes i'm well aware of the silliness of watching us come out flat, getting punched in the mouth for 40 minutes and THEN saying, "yeah, but THOSE guys..." 

they played a near-perfect game, and we played like lifeless crap.  i'm not entirely sure that either of those things will be repeated.

i'd also say - i don't think the "kofi can guard dickinson" thing is a done deal.  the foul trouble definitely made dickinson less aggressive and confident.  a cleaner whistle (in both directions) would've made it  lot more interesting between those guys.

L'Carpetron Do…

March 3rd, 2021 at 1:15 PM ^

Yeah Illinois played a great game and I was a little disappointed that Michigan played so flat in what was essentially the conference championship game. The big men may cancel each other out but those guards are a real handful. I hope a second matchup goes Michigan's way but it will be a dogfight. These matchups are going to be tough going forward as well- I'm still a little ticked Michigan dropped two close ones to them last year and that's now 3 in a row. I definitely wanted a W last night because their coach seems like a total brat and was complaining a lot. Hopefully, Michigan will get 'em back. GO BLUE!

jmblue

March 3rd, 2021 at 1:18 PM ^

Dickinson didn't look comfortable offensively from the start.  (He did look good defensively.)  It could be due to other factors, but I don't think it had much to do with the officiating.  There have been times this year when centers that can match his length caused him some trouble.  Cockburn not only has the length but also is stronger.  Dickinson had to establish position further away from the basket than normal and it seemed to throw him off.

If Hunter could step back and drain some foul-line jumpers, that could help.    

Jordan2323

March 3rd, 2021 at 8:12 PM ^

I agree with this completely. He needs to be able to hit the 8-10 footer with regularity. Our offense would open up a lot of that happened as well. Kofi camped in the lane and sagged because he’s not a threat. I think he also needs to work on dribbling and see if he can become a little more mobile with the ball 

Baffin

March 3rd, 2021 at 12:39 PM ^

Sure, but Illinois has also lost to teams that U-M has beaten handily and/or will beat. I don't see a fundamental matchup problem. Last night Illinois came prepared and Michigan was caught with their pants down . Great scouting by Illinois led to a psychological collapse and Michigan (temporarily) forgot how to play basketball. 

Even if the main problem was NOT the officiating, one could argue that a couple weak fouls by Dickinson triggered the rout. Maybe if those fouls don't happen, it's a lot closer. 

Michigan has some big, athletic players with guard skills (Brown and Wagner). We have a very solid center and a serviceable backup. Plus Brooks is no slouch and did some good things on defense. 

The more worrisome problem, I think, is that other teams can and will learn from what Illinois did. 

TrueBlue2003

March 3rd, 2021 at 6:44 PM ^

This is a non-sequitur though. Sure, Michigan was a good matchup for some teams that Illinois wasn't or had a bad night against but that doesn't mean Illinois isn't a bad matchup for Michigan.

They are a bad matchup for Michigan because they can defend Dickinson 1-on-1 and their guards can stay in front our guards which makes shot creation very difficult for Michigan.  I think it's a matchup for which Franz needs to be the primary ball handler and needs to have a good game. His is the one plus matchup for Michigan.

Brown isn't the answer since he's not a ball handler / creator.  He's strictly a 3 and D guy.

And also Cockburn is foul prone, moreso than Hunter.  So if M can win that foul trouble matchup, it tilts in their direction.

Another huge problem that wasn't addressed was rebounding.  Michigan got absolutely crushed.  That can't happen again.  That's the most fixable (and most random) aspect of this game.

TrueBlue2003

March 3rd, 2021 at 6:57 PM ^

They rotate Jonathan Tchamwa Tchatchoua who is more like power forward sized and Flo Thamba who is a little bigger but nowhere near Cockburn sized.  They're both athletic but that shouldn't prevent Dickinson from being able to back them down.  I think Baylor plays a lot of zone though anyway? That would mean they can't stick with the shooters they way Illinois does.

Gonzaga has big athletic guards too.  But Drew Timme probably can't very effectively guard Dickinson and they're another team that Franz should be able to abuse their wings.

ak47

March 3rd, 2021 at 1:17 PM ^

Yeah this absolutely was not a fluke offensive performance. They did to us exactly what we did to Iowa. There are reasons this team wasn’t ranked to start the season and one of those reasons was a mike smith eli brooks backcourt lacked the athleticism and size to get their own shot. If anything this game shows just how much howard deserves coach of the year.

mi93

March 3rd, 2021 at 1:55 PM ^

Scanning the country, I think Baylor is the only other team that could do THAT to M.  Not saying it couldn't otherwise happen, but THAT is what it takes to beat M.

I also think it took an exceptionally motivated 'point to prove' to play that flawlessly.  Should there be a round 2 in the BTT final, I think it will be a very enjoyable watch to see what Howard does differently.

jsquigg

March 3rd, 2021 at 6:07 PM ^

Also good to remember that Michigan has crammed a lot of games in since coming back from the 23 day layoff. Illinois was always going to be a problem, but especially at the end of 3 games in 6 days. Juwan needs to either get away from autobench or go small, but there wasn't much he could do in this one. Hopefully we get em again in the BTT, although to be honest I'm pretty worried about Sparty.

bronxblue

March 3rd, 2021 at 12:23 PM ^

Good recap.

I will say that Illinois poses a type of challenge that not a lot of teams in the country can - they have an elite rim defender and athletic guards and wings who can stick with UM's shooters.  There are a handful of teams with that combination of players and ability to do so; we saw one with Illinois and there are a handful of others with reasonably-similar profiles, but they are relatively few.  This isn't a perfect team, but nobody in college basketball is and I'd rather UM see this book written about them here and have a chance to adjust before the tournament.

I saw someone mention that this game felt like the Texas Tech game and I'd agree - Michigan couldn't hit the open shots they got and struggled to adjust, but they kept it close with solid defense for most of the game.  That's one positive to come out of the game that it really didn't get totally out of hand until late.

They'll have to get up for the next two games against MSU, but if I had told you before this final stretch that UM would go 2-1 against three top-10 teams in a 4-game stretch I think most people would have taken it. 

 

Baffin

March 3rd, 2021 at 12:23 PM ^

This game gave me flashbacks of when Michigan played South Carolina a few years back.

Like that game, the enemy threw a wrench in the works, denying the entry pass and gumming up screens. Michigan responded with alternating flailing, panicking, going limp, getting angry, paralysis, hero ball, and increasingly terrible decision making.

Rushed shots that careen off the backboard like a pickup game at a Canadian YWCA.

Airballage & butterfingers. 

Rolling around the floor like your feet are spaghetti. 

Desperate attempts by Franz to appease NBA scouts (who won't hold an off night against him).

Poor Austin Davis left holding the ball on the perimeter, waiting eternities for a handoff. 

Giving up on defensive rebounds, allowing the opponent to effortlessly put back misses.

And, although the problem last night was not officiating, when the refs smell your blood in the water, they typically don't give you friendly whistles. Might makes right etc.

Luckily, Michigan has the talent and coaching to learn from this game. They needed to face some adversity and here it is. I have confidence they will take their anger out on MSU and it will be a pleasure to watch. 

lhglrkwg

March 3rd, 2021 at 12:26 PM ^

This is on point

Yesterday's… uh… event felt less like a sporting contest and more like one of those nightmares where you show up to an exam with no knowledge of the subject matter, wearing only your underwear and maybe an unflattering hat.

Felt like a nightmare everyone was living at the same time. Like the whole team was like 'Wait. How do you play basketball? Do you know how to play basketball????' 

The 3rd foul on Dickinson definitely felt like it ended any hope we had. Kofi just went out with his 3rd foul and you're thinking 'ok maybe this is our chance for a run' only for Hunter to get a silly foul immediately after. We never threatened from there

rice4114

March 3rd, 2021 at 6:14 PM ^

Ill tell you what. Hunter with 3 fouls - wish we could got to an alternate universe to test the auto bench outcomes.

Hunter Dickenson goes off for 14 second half points and UM comes back to win. Hunter finishes with 4 fouls but is on the floor at the end of the game.

 

You never know. Its amazing we never question the "what if" of a key 7 minutes with Hunter on the floor.

B-Nut-GoBlue

March 3rd, 2021 at 8:04 PM ^

In a backwards way it reminds me of going for 2 in football early-on when down multiple scores; the mantra of, go for and if you miss the conversion you at least have the knowledge of where you sit/how much you need to score and can proceed to play like it.

Like, sure, guys can and will foul out in these scenarios.  But teams will for sure have had said player on the court for a good amount of time leading up to that potential moment and at least you don't have to look back and say "what if we just played him 5-6 more minutes instead of 10 minutes on the bench" and you KNOW you kept your team competitive, at full strength and/or in the game for as long as possible and can finish the last few minutes scraping by however you can (with constant substitions, whatever).

schreibee

March 3rd, 2021 at 12:27 PM ^

This was an interesting recap of what Illinois did to derail Michigan's offense, but distressingly light on possible remedies?!

What is the recourse to "our big man is as good as yours & our guards are longer and quicker"?!

Blue In NC

March 3rd, 2021 at 12:44 PM ^

Not a coach and I'm sure it's not this simple but it seems to me there could be something with a Franz/Livers action.  Hunter goes opposite side.  Livers sets screen for Franz, Franz rolls, drop coverage potentially leaves Livers as pop man and if Kofi helps on the role than HD gets a pass or charge the rim for a rebound.  Smith and Brooks as shooters to keep spacing.  We had the wing advantage, we need to take better advantage of that.

NotADuck

March 3rd, 2021 at 1:39 PM ^

This makes a lot of sense.  The guards can be used as kickout options if necessary for 3s.  Franz needs to be the focal point of the offense going forward if Michigan intends to beat the Illinois's of the world in the tournament.  Unfortunately there have been games, like OSU, where he's shied away from that responsibility.  Can we get a Mitch McGary-esque jump in performance during the tournament?  I hope so.  The sky is the limit for this team if Franz takes over.

TrueBlue2003

March 3rd, 2021 at 8:31 PM ^

The problem with running ball screens with wings while keeping your big down low is that your opponents can just switch the pick and roll and then it's still just a matter of can Franz beat a guy one-on-one with Cockburn waiting to help? They won't drop cover with a guy like Livers setting the pick especially when it's a wing-wing pick and roll.

So the scheme doesn't really help that much.  Michigan needs Franz to beat guys one-on-one and/or for Dickinson to be more effective against Cockburn either by scoring efficiently or putting him in foul trouble.  That's really what it'll come down to.

ArmenHammer

March 3rd, 2021 at 1:06 PM ^

Have at least one of your players go off, don't allow them to get a lot of offensive boards, and win in transition somehow. If none of that works, foul them a lot and hope they miss free throws. It's not really a solution, it's more like just being scrappy and hoping they flinch. Basically, do what MSU does.

bronxblue

March 3rd, 2021 at 1:18 PM ^

We'll have to see, but using Livers and Wagner and their size advantage would help.  And I do think Illinois plays differently with Ayo out there than when he's out; their offense is much freer and more organic while it feels more disjointed when it's Ayo at the helm.  So maybe that's a different performance on that front if they meet again.  

As noted in the review, Smith and Brooks are smaller guards with limited athleticism and Illinois has that in spades, so I'm not sure what you can do there.  At the same time, though, they had some shots in this game that they didn't hit; maybe in a follow-up UM hits a couple more of the shots Illinois does give them and it's closer.  Also, the rebounding advantage is going to be a strength for Illinois but this was a bit extreme, especially on the offensive boards.  Shore that up a bit and who knows.

Illinois isn't a great match-up for UM, just like UM isn't for a bunch of teams.

blueboy

March 3rd, 2021 at 12:31 PM ^

Said this in the other thread but this post reinforced my POV - I wish Michigan would’ve tried going small with Livers or Johns at the 5. Easiest way to beat drop coverage is to play pick and pop with a big who can shoot it. 

blueboy

March 3rd, 2021 at 1:18 PM ^

Definitely a valid question and the answer against cockburn is realistically to hope you put up more than you give up. Playing hack-a-shaq can also help limit the damage. 

But especially when cockburn was sitting with foul trouble I think there was very little reason not to try it. 

abertain

March 3rd, 2021 at 1:09 PM ^

I agree. There was a moment when Johns came in at the five and pivoted around for five seconds looking for a cutter. He should have shot the ball. Once Dickinson was out, you should go small and try to expose Illinois at the 5 on the perimeter and open up some driving lanes. Easy to say when Michigan has been so post-dependent, but I'm disappointed they didn't try. 

Joby

March 3rd, 2021 at 4:40 PM ^

I remember the moment you’re talking about with Johns at the top of the action, and that was when I thought to myself, man, the team’s sensors are broken today. I would bet a dollar that Michigan heavily utilizes a 5-out strategy against drop coverage if they see it effectively deployed against them again. 

JamesBondHerpesMeds

March 3rd, 2021 at 12:31 PM ^

Ways like being shoved out of a plane by a bear, and then having that bear jump out of the plane and plummet into you, flipping you off the whole time.

 

This sounds extremely, oddly specific.

lhglrkwg

March 3rd, 2021 at 12:33 PM ^

I'm a little surprised there was no discussion on rebounding. It felt like Illinois utterly destroyed us on the boards. I lost count of how many times good defense led to a clank...but then Illinois would fly in, get the rebound, and get 2nd chance points. It honestly felt like the defense was good enough to keep us hanging around a slugfest game, but the rebounding (or lackthereof) completely destroyed us. I think Illinois had 20+ 2nd chance points. That is how you get blown out