Marvin Robinson moved to FS
http://michigan.rivals.com/content.asp?CID=1170383
Marvin has been moved for bowl practices and spring ball. This should be a final move for him. Personally I like this move. He started the year at Bandit, then was moved to OLB during the bye week.
December 30th, 2010 at 11:02 AM ^
If Marvin just stands there like this...
December 30th, 2010 at 11:03 AM ^
The Matthew McConaughey of defensive backs.
December 30th, 2010 at 11:12 AM ^
Aw-right aw-right aw-right.
December 30th, 2010 at 11:40 AM ^
December 30th, 2010 at 11:12 AM ^
Is the dude to Marvin's left wearing an Ohio State shirt?
December 30th, 2010 at 11:19 AM ^
thats just bird shit
December 30th, 2010 at 11:34 AM ^
you nearly made my oatmeal come out of my nose
December 30th, 2010 at 11:43 AM ^
That would burn so incredibly bad...
December 30th, 2010 at 11:20 AM ^
There was a lot of pressure on him to go to OSU during his recruitment. His H.S. coach was a big Buckeye slappie but I'm not sure if that's him in the picture.
December 30th, 2010 at 11:24 AM ^
looks like he is rocking a tennessee shirt as well...
December 30th, 2010 at 11:29 AM ^
That's what I thought too.
December 30th, 2010 at 12:14 PM ^
December 30th, 2010 at 12:47 PM ^
When I was in high school, a guy on the football team cut a rectangle out of his undershirts for the sole purpose of exposing his abs. It still had the shirt on his sides and the back. it was awesome.
December 30th, 2010 at 2:24 PM ^
...after my wife dries them.
December 30th, 2010 at 11:04 AM ^
He has actually been back there post PSU. His stay at LB was short lived.
December 30th, 2010 at 11:04 AM ^
That’s tremendous Jim.
December 30th, 2010 at 11:05 AM ^
This board has had endless debate about the 3-3-5 - both its strengths and weaknesses as a scheme.
But if you ask me, the main problem with the 3-3-5 this year for was not based on scheme, but rather its impact on personnel decisions. There is so much flexibility position-wise in the defensive backfield and LB/DE positions, that we constantly moved people around to point where we couldn't develop any chemistry. My guess is that much of this was also due to playing so many young players on D.
The good news is that hopefully we come out of this year with a better sense of our personnel and so positions will be more solidified next year.
December 30th, 2010 at 11:54 AM ^
Defense is inherently easier to switch people around in, but we also saw a fair bit of positional switches on the offensive side of the ball (e.g. Odoms, Grady, Stokes, Barnum, Miller?) as well as between O and D (e.g. Washington, Ferrara, Campbell, Jones, Rogers, Moundros).
Furthermore, the defensive switches can't all be explained by scheme. I see your point as it relates to Spur, Bandit, FS, but other positions also indicate a great deal of movement. The switches between CB and S (Woolfolk, Talbot, Floyd) would still occur in a 3-4 or 4-3 system. The difference between LB and DE might still be fluid (Roh, Fitzgerald, Ezeh) in a 3-4. Switches between DE and DT (Van Bergen, Sagesse) wouldn't be rare in a 4-3.
Some of this is need based, but some of it also seems to be related to the mentality of coaches. They're not shy about moving people.
Agree that positional stability is preferred. Not sure we'll ever see it from this staff though.
December 30th, 2010 at 11:05 AM ^
The possibility of having a Sophomore (and not Fr.) starting at FS next season is glorious!!!!!!!!!
December 30th, 2010 at 11:09 AM ^
Sounds like Joe Lewis v. Rocky Marciano.
December 30th, 2010 at 11:58 AM ^
I was really, really hoping that was the link you were posting. Well played.
December 30th, 2010 at 11:10 AM ^
Anything to unleash this kids talent and potential. Bring the pain.
December 30th, 2010 at 11:13 AM ^
Forget unleashing his talent and potential - we need to unleash his 8-pack abs on opposing offenses.
December 30th, 2010 at 11:33 AM ^
What if someone comes up with 6-minute abs?
December 30th, 2010 at 11:35 AM ^
and no one ever remembers it.....
December 30th, 2010 at 11:40 AM ^
of course we remember it
December 30th, 2010 at 11:43 AM ^
No! No, no, not 6! I said 7. Nobody's comin' up with 6. Who works out in 6 minutes? You won't even get your heart goin, not even a mouse on a wheel.
December 30th, 2010 at 11:45 AM ^
No! No, no, not 6! I said 7. Nobody's comin' up with 6. Who works out in 6 minutes? You won't even get your heart goin, not even a mouse on a wheel. 7's the key number here. Think about it. 7-Elevens. 7 dwarves. 7, man, that's the number. 7 chipmunks twirlin' on a branch, eatin' lots of sunflowers on my uncle's ranch. You know that old children's tale from the sea! It's like you're dreamin' about Gorgonzola cheese when it's clearly Brie time, baby! Step into my office. Cause you're fuckin' fired!
December 30th, 2010 at 11:47 AM ^
Fantastic, I forgot about that last part. "Step into my office, cause you're fuckin' fired!"
December 30th, 2010 at 11:43 AM ^
Everyone knows 7 min is as fast as you can get an ab workout
December 30th, 2010 at 1:42 PM ^
seven's the key number here. step into my office.
December 30th, 2010 at 11:11 AM ^
December 30th, 2010 at 12:13 PM ^
He's much faster than Cam/Jonas
December 31st, 2010 at 2:55 PM ^
Marvin Robinson is faster than Cam Gordon and Jonas Mouton. He's not a burner, but he's fast enough to play FS in a Cover 3 scheme.
December 30th, 2010 at 11:11 AM ^
We won't have any Fr. starting on the defensive side of the ball next year, unless of course some of this years recruits come in and blow the coaching staff away. That alone is reason for hope from going from a disaster to atleast a average defense.
December 30th, 2010 at 11:15 AM ^
Yeah you never know if an incoming freshman will come in and tear it up, but it is nice knowing that next year we will have some experience and depth on defense.
December 30th, 2010 at 11:59 AM ^
Defensive experience is the single greatest reason to expect improvement from this team in 2011.
I'd be quite surprised if a freshman started next year, but LB roles are unclear, CB is historically a spot where a freshman can make an impact, and DL depth is thin with experience. You never know...
December 30th, 2010 at 11:13 AM ^
I have a question about FS and Marvin Robinson and Josh Furman. Is FS the hero position or the guy who plays deepest and doesn't let anyone behind him? If that is true, don't you want the fastest guy back there to cover the most ground. I know Marvin is fast, but wasn't it reported that Furman has close to Denard speed. I know Furman is a big kid, but would it not make more sense to try him at FS. It seems he was always destined to be SS or LB. I know he is raw, and would take some time for maybe the FS position. Thanks for the help.
December 30th, 2010 at 11:30 AM ^
Furman did come in raw, and the only experience he had on D was rushing the passer, mostly as a DE so he needed time before he was going to threaten for PT. However, you're correct in that he might be our best athlete on that side of the ball, so as long as he gets his head wrapped around playing the position (no reason to think he can't) he could be very good.
I think with Furman it will depend on how big he is come fall. I've heard he has a frame to support more weight, but he was also a weightroom fanatic in high school so it's likely he's closer to his ideal weight than your typical freshman.
If he continues to bulk, he'll play LB. However, if he stays at S, and we have him and MRob who are good options, that's not a bad problem to have since it sounds like both of them could play SS or FS and we will have guys like Vinopal, Carvin and TGordon, all freshmen this year, who looked good as youngsters. Oh God, do we have depth on defense? Look out.
December 30th, 2010 at 12:03 PM ^
Thanks, I was curious That was the confusing part, I remember reading in either the Hello post or something else on here that Furman rushed the QB also. I know the services placed him in the safety classification. I thought with his speed, he could play FS or SS. I think the safety position is where you want your most athletic guys. I was hoping he could be a Taylor Mays type. I was worried that putting on weight would slow that speed down. I don't think you find too many big guys with that kind of speed .
December 30th, 2010 at 12:10 PM ^
No doubt Taylor Mays was a great college player, and I'd love to have the second coming of him at UM. But a big reason he played FS at USC (besides "he could") was because USC had a number of great LBs while Mays was there (I believe they're all in the NFL now) and not another very good FS. Had Mays played on almost any other team he would have been a LB, and quite possibly just as good. On a lesser defense (and I think ours qualifies as such), if you have a guy who is big and fast, he's of greater value closer to the LOS, provided you have a guy at FS who can man his post.
Assuming MRob or other can play FS well, putting Furman at either SS or WLB would probably be a better use of his talents.
The fact that Furman has virtually no experience in pass coverage is certainly not a trivial point either.
December 30th, 2010 at 12:18 PM ^
Thanks again. Good points. I knew USC had their whole LB corp drafted a couple of years ago. And now that I remember Taylor Mays was probably more LB than safety. I remember him going for kill shots and he got burned at times.
December 30th, 2010 at 1:34 PM ^
Furman has stiff hips which is a disaster waiting to happen for someone in the secondary.
December 30th, 2010 at 2:30 PM ^
Thanks, I had not heard that before.
December 31st, 2010 at 2:58 PM ^
Furman was an OLB in a 50 defense when he was in high school. He wasn't exactly a defensive end, but like you pointed out, it was much different than FS. Having played close to the line, I'm not sure anyone should expect him to have the necessary ball skills to play free safety. Typically you see football players bulk up and move forward in the defense, but rarely do they move back into "more skilled" positions.
December 30th, 2010 at 11:35 AM ^
If I remember the recruiting stuff correctly, I got the impression that MRob came in pretty developed physcially (and had been since he was like 15). So he may not have nearly as much room to bulk up for an LB type position. While Furman is two inches taller and weighed the same as MRob, they may being added weight to him and end up as a ridiculously fast OLB using his pash rushing skills.
As for the safety terminology, I have no idea which safety they mean. "Alley safety"? Why can't we just unify the terms? It all kind of hurts my head.
December 30th, 2010 at 11:47 AM ^
Robinson is 6'2" 203 and Furman is 6'2" 208.
http://www.mgoblue.com/sports/m-footbl/mtt/mich-m-footbl-mtt.html
December 30th, 2010 at 12:10 PM ^
December 30th, 2010 at 12:12 PM ^
You remember correctly, and although I think the mgoblue roster is more accurate (certainly more recent) it's likely that Furman has an inch on MRob.
December 30th, 2010 at 12:12 PM ^