Question about Defensive co-ordinator

Submitted by Dr. Steve on

We came back to AA for the Iowa game. Hadn't been back for 24 years. Our 3rd generation grandaughter is now a Freshman Wolverine. We watched our defense get torched again after the first 2 series. That night at Zingermans we met an alum from the 70's. We bemoaned the defense. He now lives in Austin Texas. He said that when G. Robinson was the DC at Texas his teams were the worst defensive teams in the SWC. The year after he left, with the same players the new DC had them as the best in the conference. He also said that the guy the RR fired (from Stanford) has gone to I think Syracuse and they have the best defense in the conference. Is this true. If so, then RR has no knowledge of defensive football and should not be the head coach at Michigan. If these facts are not true then I apologize to RR and the board.   Dr. STeve

VaUMWolverine

October 28th, 2010 at 10:06 PM ^

I've been following this blog for a while but just now got up the nerve to post a comment. Sorry Dr. Steve. That one deserves every bit of negativity its getting. Even if I had points to be able to post, I wouldnt do anything that stupid. It almost doesnt even deserve a response. Just dumb.

Dreisbach1817

October 28th, 2010 at 10:09 PM ^

This board can be cruel. Maybe this OP had a few (many) facts wrong, but some of these response posts are a much larger embarrassment. Yes, GERG had made some mistakes. We can all move on with our lives.

octal9

October 28th, 2010 at 10:17 PM ^

Harsh crowd tonight. (edit: wait, who the hell am I kidding? It's always like that here, that's what makes MGoBoard awesome)

Dr. Steve, you would do well to remember that correlation does not imply causation. There are a number of other factors to consider with our defense and believe me, they are plentiful. Anecdotal evidence and statistics are pointing vaguely towards your conclusion and whispering suggestively, but that's all to what it really boils down: foggy, unsupported conclusions.

Our defense is young. As a byproduct of this, they are inexperienced. You would do well to study the number of upperclassmen remaining in our defensive secondary and ask some questions like, "How many true freshman are all-stars the moment they hit the field in college?" This is a problem Coach Rodriguez is actively working on, but there's no instant fix. It requires time and just as importantly, patience.

Coach Shafer is a good defensive coordinator - there's no disputing that. He gets shit done. But what we don't know as fans (and this is important) is whether he was a good match for the rest of the coaching staff. I don't know what kind of work you do, but I'm a programmer. We have people that do specific types of coding, and we all work on a team. If one personality on the team doesn't fit with the rest of the team, it really bogs down a project - and can even lead to its complete failure. I would venture a guess at this being the real issue with Coach Shafer, but it's just that - a guess.

Bluerock

October 28th, 2010 at 10:17 PM ^

Where's the trust?

Doc, there have been some state trolls thats got us a little lathered up, please don't be offended.

Now back to your normal programing.

mgobleu

October 28th, 2010 at 10:21 PM ^

Zingerman's?

ZINGERMAN'S???

I talked to that same guy!!! He told me that GERG not only had the worst defenses every year for all 27 years he was in the SWC, but he also killed a guy. Possibly with a trident. And then there was the mystery of the higher than national average occurence of yeast infections during his tenure. Of course they were downriver from that bread factory...

bronxblue

October 28th, 2010 at 10:35 PM ^

You know, I heard that too.  Must be true, since we have confirmation from two people that GERG had the worst defenses ever in SWC history, killed a man (possibly with a three-pronged weapon once wielded by Posseidon), and also lead to increased vaginal discomfort in women.  

mgobleu

October 28th, 2010 at 10:48 PM ^

In all honesty, I didn't believe the guy for a second. Besides, I don't think its really fair to speculate on what kind of condition a man leaves a vajayjay in without any substantive evidence. I mean, srsly. I refuse to believe that a man with hair like GERG's has ever left a woman's mommy parts anything but satisfied. Say what you want about his defenses, but I'll just continue to believe that he is a kind and generous lover.

SysMark

October 28th, 2010 at 10:52 PM ^

Too bad on this one Doc.  Looks like you actually had some points when you started.  Did your buddy mention GERG coaching a Super Bowl winning Denver D?

Per Wikipedia:

Robinson's tenure as defensive coordinator with the Denver Broncos occurred during their Super Bowl (XXXII & XXXIII) seasons in 1997 and 1998.Robinson's Bronco defense played superbly during the 1998 playoff run. The Broncos defense held the Miami Dolphins scoreless in the divisional playoffs, allowed only a touchdown as a result of a fumble on the one yard line against the New York Jets in the AFC Championship Game, and then allowed a single touchdown to the Atlanta Falcons in the 4th quarter of the Super Bowl after the outcome was secure.

 

jsquigg

October 29th, 2010 at 1:13 AM ^

And remember when Robinson was the co-ordinator at Chicago U when they were in the B10?  Yost used to run roughshod all over those defenses....

Communist Football

October 29th, 2010 at 11:31 AM ^

Come on guys.  The guy is a grandfather who probably has never posted on this board before, and probably checks it out once a month.  It's one thing if he were a 19 year old who has been blogging his whole life -- but surely we can cut some slack to the grandfathers out there, who have better things to do than check blogs all day like we do to be up on the ins and outs of the M defense.

Asking people to be courteous might be asking too much -- but at least some consideration?