An Interview With Demar Dorsey Comment Count

TomVH

[Editor's note: Somehow this video featuring Dorsey's been on Youtube since March and no one noticed it. It's a profile put together by LifeSkills, an "alternative high school opportunity for at-risk and drop-out youth providing a unique academic model and a proven record of success." It's one of a few promotional videos put together by the company (another couple feature folks who aren't athletes) and should be viewed with that in mind.

Anyway:

On to Tom.]

As everyone knows, Demar Dorsey's situation with Michigan is in limbo. I was granted an interview with Demar. Since he and his family have been refusing to talk to the media I promised Demar that this interview would be a simple Q&A to leave no room for interpretation.

TOM: Do you read everything that's been in the media about you?

DEMAR: Yeah, I've seen most of the articles. The media didn't really make me upset, because I know the truth about me. It made my parents upset, because once I announced I was going to Michigan, that's when all these articles started coming out. I had to change my number, so no one could get a hold of me.

TOM: That's pretty big for a football recruit to have to go through that. What kind of affect did that have on you and your family?

DEMAR: We just got together and said don't let anything affect you, and just move on. I've been trying to do everything I can to move forward.

TOM: Have those reports affected your perception of Michigan, or its fans?

DEMAR: No, I chose Michigan for a reason, and I would love to be up there. Everybody is always telling me how much they want me up there, and that they're supporting me. My cousin, Denard [Robinson], has been telling me how much love they're showing me.

TOM: So, where are you at with Michigan?

DEMAR: Right now, I'm still signed under my letter of intent, so I can't do anything yet until I hear back from them. They told me that they don't think I can get in with admissions about two weeks ago, or a week ago, but they weren't sure. They had been checking on my grades earlier in the year, and I was on top of it. When I got home one day, my parents said that they were sending back my letter of intent. They were sending me a release form. I'm not sure what that means, or if it means I'm officially not in. I think because I signed a letter of intent, if I wanted to open up my recruitment, I would have to send that back to them. If I can't get in from the admissions, then I have to send that back. My mom said we need to do that, so we have to send it out tomorrow, and we'll go from there. I have the ACT score, and I have the core, so we're just waiting to hear what happens. I haven't heard anything from the coaches yet.

TOM: What's next from here? What do you do if you can't get in to Michigan?

DEMAR: If I can't get in, I'll re-open my recruitment. I have a couple schools that I'm thinking of, I don't want to name names yet. I'll just wait to see what happens.

Comments

GONZO735

June 9th, 2010 at 1:57 PM ^

I feel fine with Cissoko and Feagin.....is the University to blame for their problems?? No....it WOULD be a problem if the University ignored these guys and didn't punish them, but I think the University and Coaches sent a message by releasing these guys. THAT is the most important thing, giving kids opportunities to succeed and play for the university of Michigan...if they can't follow rules at U of M, release them from the University. It's simple....we CANNOT give up on some of these kids simply because they didn't have the same opportunities as you or I. They have immense talents, and WE ALL WANT a succesful program, I think that translates into taking the talented kids and giving them a chance to earn a Michigan degree and play for one of the best Programs in the nation. If we recruit only the kids who have stellar backgrounds and academics, we may as well FORGET Big ten Championships and National Championships, because you won't see them....I understand Michigan is an elite academic school....but times have changed, you can NO longer only select the best qualified recruits anymore.....there is just too much competition. If we keep this up, Michigan Football is going to be just another football program with great academics. In reality, if the University doesn't pull their heads outta their butts and realize that recruiting FOOTBALL players and not just scholars is what brings in revenue, then the entire athletic department is in danger of losing HUGE amounts of money.....GO BLUE!!!!!!!!!!

blueloosh

June 9th, 2010 at 10:18 AM ^

I don't want to shatter your cherished impression of our scholar athletes, but 95%+ of our football players would not have been admitted to Michigan if they did not play football.

You could not get into Central with those scores because you are not a supremely talented athlete.  Dorsey offers more than you there.

naters113

June 9th, 2010 at 11:12 AM ^

I agree with all the responses mentioned, just felt like I had to give my initial reaction.  Trust me, I want to see Demar Dorsey succeed and hopefully be able to do that at the University of Michigan.  I just felt I needed to say what was said more so to see what responses would be to see the other side of the fence.  Thanks for those who responded. 

ontarioblue

June 9th, 2010 at 10:00 AM ^

This is a contractual document binding two parties to an agreement.  Dorsey's part was to sign it, Michigan's was to honor it.  If the admissions staff had such serious concerns, they should have never accepted it in the first place.  All they did was provide false hope to a young man with a dream of playing football at the University of Michigan.  What they did in fact was allow this same young man to be dragged through the mud by over zealous news orgainzations.  At the very least, he is owed an apology.  So is Rich Rod who now has to go out and recruit high level athletes, offer scholarships, and watch as their dreams are shattered by people who could have stopped this early in the process and saved everyone the embarassment.

Aequitas

June 9th, 2010 at 10:43 AM ^

Fuck the legalese.  This is a moral issue about stringing a kid along, and hanging a coaching staff out to dry.  Why let Rodriguez recruit Dorsey and accept an LOI if they're going to not admit a kid who has academically qualified?

It's entirely possible to be "right" and come off as an utter and complete douche bag.

MGoShoe

June 9th, 2010 at 10:59 AM ^

...posited a legalistic requirement for Michigan that doesn't exist.  I provided feedback to him on that.  You posit a moral requirement for Michigan that I don't necessarily disagree with but I caution that there are many unknowns that will likely never be known due to privacy laws.

It's entirely possible to be "right" and come off as an utter and complete douche bag.

Can't argue with that.

J. Lichty

June 9th, 2010 at 10:06 AM ^

1) I think the impact on recruiting will not be significant from the recruit's standpoint, but will affect how Rodriguez recruits borderline kids.  Remember, as much as this hurts Dorsey, it hurts Rodriguez worse.  RR loses the spot until next year, he loses a five star player, and he lost a battle with admissions.  RR will have to change how he interacts with admissions to make sure this does not happen again.

2) While the admissions actions, based upon what we know i.e. that someone signed off on it to RR, was shameful, what really galls me is that the coaches have not kept Dorsey updated on what is going on.  This reminds me of the Witherspoon situation a couple years ago when the kid was in Ann Arbor yet the coaches were not keeping him informed of what was going on.  My recollection is that eventually he found out from another source that he wasnt eligible and then left town.

Section 1

June 9th, 2010 at 10:37 AM ^

Amid all of the tears about the disgraceful treatment of Dorsey by elements within the University of Michigan, my own tears very much included, there is this:

Demar Dorsey was willing to speak exclusively to Tom VH, and Dorsey's parents and coaches were willing to communicate with Sam Webb.

This is what the Free Press is reduced to.  It is on the outside, looking in.  A real, true, determined enemy of our football program.  With ever-diminishing access to our coaches, players and recruits.

Let's all make sure we help to continue that process.

[Edit. - I see that Freep.com has just posted a Mark Snyder story about this, in which he somehow got a statement from Demar's dad.  Pity that Snyder got that much.  I note also that Snyder made no mention of MGoBlog, and instead circled around all of the issues that had been reported here, without attribution.  What a weasel Snyder is.  What a pathetic failing institution his paper is.]

aaamichfan

June 9th, 2010 at 11:18 AM ^

He's just a weasel.

If his initial attack piece was never published, I have a strong suspicion Dorsey would be admitted and en route to Ann Arbor right now. The continued demonization of Dorsey by the Freep placed admissions in a lose-lose situation. Our anger should be directed at the Freep, not the university.

Aequitas

June 9th, 2010 at 10:35 AM ^

I've loved anything and everything Michigan related since I was old enough to recognize maize and blue.  Like many of you, I've defended Michigan zealously for the past 2 years against seemingly endless unfair, biased, and often hypocritical attacks.  But this is defenseless.

How much more did Demar go through because his commitment was to Michigan?  He'll land on his feet, and I'll be rooting for him just as if he were wearing a winged helmet, but the school has taken a black eye with all of this.

Perception is reality and right now we're telling a young man that we recruited insanely hard with 7 coaches at once, a young man that commited to us, a young man that did what he was supposed to do and qualified academically...we're telling that young man. "You're not a good enough person to come here."  It makes us look like arrogant, elitist, country club, pricks.

I can handle disappointing seasons, the attacks...but I can't handle this.  I have a knot in my stomach that makes me feel embarrassed to be a Wolverine today.

Gettinjimmywithit

June 9th, 2010 at 10:45 AM ^

The University's (not the football team) arrogance is dumbfounding...they sold out their head football coach,the kid and his family.

The impact of the coaches and his teammates at UM could have had a life changing impact on this kid...all holding him to a higher standard for both his life decisions and his academic development. I have seen what a good team environment can do for athletes who have messed up in the past.

Kids like this don't need more people shutting the door in their face. I'm going to have to walk this one off for a while. Makes me sick.

Best of luck to Demar

GONZO735

June 9th, 2010 at 2:04 PM ^

you are ABSOLUTELY correct.  Dorsey went through SO much more because he simply committed to U of M. SHAME of the Freep for subjecting this kid to the immense criticism that he wasn't accustomed to. It just goes to show how powerful the media is nowadays.....not to give credit where it isn't deserved, but the Media is OUT OF CONTROL.....Michigan's reputation is being BLASTED right now because the University is caving in to the pressures created by these MEDIOCRE reporting......

Blue in Seattle

June 9th, 2010 at 10:51 AM ^

I'll admit I don't know much about journalism but I can't help but think this is a feather in the MGoBlog hat that there is a report from a source close to the matter and that we have the balls to go the distance to be able to name the source.

I have to believe that Sam Webb did interview both Demar and his coach, and did know that the release letter was sent, but rather than bring that fact to light a general "I don't think he'll be at Michigan in the fall" is published.

And since from what I can tell Sam Webb has a decent reputation for his journalism, all the traditional outlets expanded too a greater or lessor amount their own speculation on the matter (I'm talking about you Angelique).

Now, how hard is it to get the Univeristy of Michigan Admissions office on the record as saying, "no comment" or "he's out", or "the letter being sent was a mistake, and the coaches are communicating the process to the recruit as the process unfolds"

I'm betting it's "no comment" but is it really that hard to call and get that on the record and print that in the original article?

I mean phones are pretty fast too, I think they use the same electrons as the internet don't they?

Am I the crazy one here?

 

MgoMatt

June 9th, 2010 at 10:56 AM ^

People seem to neglect that even if he gets in, he would need to pass his classes in order to qualify to play.  Michigan is a HARD school, and admissions are there for a reason.  It would be a huge dis-service to Demar to let him in and have him fail to become academically eligible.

According to this: http://colleges.collegetoolkit.com/colleges/admissions/university_of_mi…

ACT SCORE
30-36 44% of students
24-29 49% of students
18-23 7% of students
12-17 0% of students

High School GPA
3.75-4.0 63%
3.5-3.74 26%
3.25-3.49 6%
3.0-3.24 4%
2.5-2.99 2%

Now, this of course doesn't prove that he would fail in the classroom, but there's no argument the kid would have a lot of competition at Michigan.  I wish him the best of luck in his career, but it's probably best for him that he go elsewhere.

wishitwas97

June 9th, 2010 at 10:57 AM ^

that is for regular students, not football, basketball and other big revenue sports players.  They're completely different and they have more help in academics like tutors, etc.

 

I've met players with worse score than Dorsey did just fine at Michigan.

Bravo12

June 9th, 2010 at 11:29 AM ^

But I was only half paying attention to a conference call, so I gave it a shot --

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Good Afternoon,

I'm writing to show my support for Demar Dorsey.  Mr. Dorsey was extended an athletic scholarship to the University of Michigan, and I'd like to see the University honor this offer.

The University of Michigan is a special place - we must protect the sanctity of our image and the esteem of our reputation. I think Mr. Dorsey represents no threat to either of these ideals, and I stand firmly behind him as a candidate for admission.

As someone who deeply values the standards and qualifications required to become a Wolverine, I sincerely hope your committee will do the right thing and honor Mr. Dorseys scholarship to our University.

Please let me know if I can be of any assistance,

Respectfully,

------------

Probably will do no good - but it made me feel better for a few seconds.

 

J. Lichty

June 9th, 2010 at 11:50 AM ^

They can't comment Dorsey's application for admission anymore than they can comment on your's.

The only light that is going to be shed on this unfortunately is from the Dorsey side of things.  I doubt that either Brandon or Rodriguez are going to be able to comment in too much detail other than to state that the application for admission was rejected by the admissions office and that Dorsey has been granted his release.

Tim Waymen

June 9th, 2010 at 12:59 PM ^

After months of hearing about how Demar Dorsey had trouble with law and so on, maybe you all knew this before I finally learn that he entered into this program.  Demar genuinely wants to be on the right path.

I found it heartbreaking to hear him talk about the auditorium where he announced he was going to Michigan as if it were a shrine.  I had no idea how much it meant to him.  God I hope he gets in.

MikeUM85

June 9th, 2010 at 1:00 PM ^

Long time lurker here as well (formerly active on the World Crossing site and before that, the freep, may the heavens forgive me).  Also yet another alumn with an intense passion for UofM.

The Dorsey situation has also motivated me to sign up and join the discussion, though this has now been my primary source for M sports info for quite some time.  First, kudos to Brian and Tom for the great work in general, and specifically on this subject.

Second, re. Dorsey.  It seems to me there are 3 possibilities:

1. Admissions is just trying to do its best according to its standards.  However, it's been reported that admissions in some fashion supported the move to sign him to an LOI. So what's changed?  It's possible that some new  information has come to light of which we aren't aware.

2.  RR bungled.  Because he's intent on shooting himself in the foot at every opportunity, RR pushed it with admissions, signed this kid to an LOI over their objections or, at the least, serious concerns, and now can't get him admitted. This only makes sense if the report that the move was supported by admissions around signing day is false. Under any scenario, though, this is yet another perceived blunder by Coach Rodriguez.  I've personally been in his camp from the beginning but he needs to start producing good news out of Ann Arbor, ideally in the form of 8 or 9 wins.  Pray that the Michigan Loving Gods stop frolicking in Valhalla and return their attention to our benighted football program this fall, or be ready for years more frustration. 

3. There remains an anti-RR component inside the administration, despite Brandon's attempts to eradicate it. At the very least, RR does not have the clout with admissions that it appears other coaches have had.  At worst, there are individuals within the administration actively seeking to undermine this head coach and his program (dare one suggest a cabal without being offered a tin-foil hat picture in return?).  I'm very confident that David Brandon will continue to flush them out where he can, but his ability to do that is concentrated in the Athletics Department, and he'll also need RR to deliver some wins this fall (I think the magic number is 7 for getting RR to 2011) to continue to protect him.  

All that said, I view this through two lenses. What's best for the student athlete? Based on what I've read (acknowleding it's possible that Admissions could have significant info to the contrary) I have little doubt the best thing for Dorsey is for someone to tell him that it's going to be tough, he'll have to work his ass off, but to honor the pledge at signing day and give him his chance at Michigan.  If he fails, at least UofM kept its word and he had his chance.

What's best for the University, then? Again, unless there are "character" issues that go way beyond the Yellow Press reports, and undermine the apparent turn-around in his life, hands down the best move for UofM is to honor its commitment, give the kid an opportunity to play. Again, if character issues arise while he's on the team, corrective actions can be taken, as has been done many times in the past. 

I too am extremely disappointed by this incident.  Yes, I want to see him on the field in the maize and blue.  Yes, it's partially because he appears to be an exceptional talent at a position of critical need. But also because of his media crucifixion by the Yellow Press, and the unpalatable idea that my beloved alma mater would fail to fulfill its promises to a troubled student athlete trying to turn his life around.

Thanks for reading my wall-of-text first post. :)

wiscwood

June 9th, 2010 at 7:00 PM ^

I have a feeling that not letting Demar Dorsey in is major mistake on Michigan's part.  I think this kid is going to mature in to a productive young man, and a good football player. Unfortunately, Dorsey does not fit the Michigan image. It is unsaid but, it appears Michigan is judging Demar right now.  I do not recall a time a student/athlete with gold teeth, locks and a southern drawl went to Michigan. Even Charles Woodson showed up on campus with his hair braided. I think they are afraid of  DD's troubled past too. They fear a future event may embarrass UM if Dorsey connects with the wrong element in Ann Arbor.

Right now I feel The University of Michigan are not "the leaders" and the are not" the best" right now.  Give this kid a chance! He has overcome so many obstacles, only to let Michigan debar him. This is ridiculous! Demar said in the video committing to Michigan was dream come true. It was the biggest decision in his life. Obviously it was bigger than the trouble he chose to get when he was a high school freshman. I know Michigan would change Demar Dorsey's life. He would become the man he should be. I know this first hand, Michigan changed me.