Week 13 Polls & Ratings (AP #3, Coaches #4) Open Thread

Submitted by Leaders And Best on

Your Week 13 Thread for all polls, rankings, and computer ratings discussion. I will try to update with AP and Coaches Poll when they are released later this afternoon.

FEI & F/+ update tomorrow. Michigan looks solidly #3 in most of these with OSU #2.

AP Poll #3:  http://collegefootball.ap.org/poll

Coaches Poll #4: http://sportspolls.usatoday.com/ncaa/football/polls/coaches-poll/

F/+ #2: http://www.footballoutsiders.com/stats/fplus

S&P+ #2: http://www.footballoutsiders.com/stats/ncaa

FEI #3: http://www.footballoutsiders.com/stats/fei

Massey Ratings #3: http://www.masseyratings.com/cf/fbs/ratings

Sagarin Ratings #3 (#3 in Predictor): http://www.usatoday.com/sports/ncaaf/sagarin/

ESPN FPI #3: http://espn.go.com/college-football/statistics/teamratings

SRS #3: http://www.sports-reference.com/cfb/years/2016-ratings.html

 

Michigan's team statistical profile:

Football Study Hall: http://www.footballstudyhall.com/pages/2016-michigan-advanced-statistical-profile

ESPN FPI: http://www.espn.com/college-football/team/fpi?id=130&year=2016

Massey Ratings: http://www.masseyratings.com/team.php?t=4741&s=286577

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pfholland

November 20th, 2016 at 12:25 PM ^

I really don't understand the purpose of a catch-all poll thread without either of the two polls having been released, especially with no promise the post will be updated in a timely manner. Just make it a computer rankings post if you're not going to guarantee updates.

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LSAClassOf2000

November 20th, 2016 at 2:02 PM ^

When we embarked on this season initially, the guideline actually was that catch-all threads would be fine but it is incumbent upon the OP to keep it updated and myself or one of the other mods would bump it occasionally if necessary. That being said though, I get that Sunday is sometimes the day for "all the shit we didn't do on Saturday", especially those of us that have families, so if someone is well-intentioned and then doesn't update it, I can't fault them really. Actually, it is when people haven't done that the multiple poll threads are allowed to stand, so I do make it a point to at least check. 

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BoFan

November 20th, 2016 at 2:05 PM ^

It's nice of Leaders to do this but it's better to have individual posts for each poll. That way we notice any new updates right away. MGoBloggers will collectively make sure that happens and we don't have to keep finding and checking this post to see if Leaders had a chance to update it.

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Leaders And Best

November 20th, 2016 at 1:05 PM ^

Clemson rises to #3 over Michigan in the Coaches Poll.

Other teams of note for Michigan:
OSU #2
Wisconsin #6
PSU #8
Colorado #9
Iowa Others Receiving Votes (1)
MSU NR

I think Iowa could crack the Top 25 with a win over Nebraska next week.

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MarqueeView

November 20th, 2016 at 1:32 PM ^

That's just kind of how the schedule evens things out though. A middle class of borderline top-25 teams would mean we wouldn't have as many elite teams, because to become borderline top-25 those middle class teams would have to pull off more upsets against the elite, making them not so elite.



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Leaders And Best

November 20th, 2016 at 1:46 PM ^

Indiana, Northwestern, & MSU are all probably better than their record would indicate and have suffered from scheduling against the top of the B1G.

But I don't think explains how bad Rutgers, Purdue, Illinois, & Maryland are. Maryland's record actually looks better than it actually should be due to a weak nonconference schedule and drawing Purdue in a crossover game. Purdue avoided Michigan and OSU in crossover games. Illinois & Rutgers also benefited from playing each other in a crossover game.

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BoFan

November 20th, 2016 at 2:19 PM ^

It's amazing how overrated the ACC is by Coaches. Clemson has no wins vs the 10 ten (only a squeaker vs 11 Louisville) yet is ranked by coaches above Michigan who has three decisive wins vs the top 10. Louisville at 11 lost its only two tough games and was shredded by Houston, yet Houston is at 21, has the same record, and also beat #7 Oklahoma.

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M-Dog

November 20th, 2016 at 4:00 PM ^

The polls no longer matter.

Win out and we are the 2 seed in the CFP at worst.  

Lose on Saturday and we are done talking about it.

No Plan B.  All or nothing.

As it should be.  Imagine what it was like in most of the '70s . . . beat Ohio State and you were Big Ten champs and going to the Rose Bowl in sunny CA on New Years Day.

Lose, and . . . nothing.  Absolutely nothing.

Talk about pressure.

 

 

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Leaders And Best

November 20th, 2016 at 4:36 PM ^

The polls have been irrelevant since the BCS was replaced by the CFP. The only poll that matters is the CFP committee poll on Tuesday. I guess the final AP poll after the bowls has some significance for program history.

I only include them in this because some people still like to look at them. IMO, the computer ratings are far more interesting for discussion than the AP & Coaches polls.

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Don

November 20th, 2016 at 4:51 PM ^

I was there...UM fans younger than me have no idea.

1970: Michigan goes 9-1, losing only to OSU. No bowl game.

1972: Michigan goes 10-1, losing only to OSU. No bowl game.

1973: Michigan goes 10-0-1, with the infamous 10-10 tie. No bowl game.

1974: Michigan goes 10-1, losing only to OSU. No bowl game.

So over four seasons we go 39-3-1, yet sat home for the holidays every fricking year. There's no doubt that if the conference hadn't had that criminally stupid Rose Bowl-only policy at the time, Bo wouldn't have had to wait until 1980 for his first bowl victory. We would have played in the Orange or Cotton or Sugar Bowls and we'd have kicked the asses of some overrated SEC, ACC, or Big 8 team.

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