OT: Ashley Madison hack is filled with .edu addresses
The Ashley Madison hack is the gift that keeps on giving (unless you were a member). Turns out there are a lot of .edu emails addresses registered on the site. This site ranked the top 10 .edu addresses.
There you go, Dantonio, you finally got that #1 ranking. #SpartansWill cheat.
August 21st, 2015 at 12:13 PM ^
And I'm willing to bet that it's only a matter of time before B happens.
August 21st, 2015 at 12:15 PM ^
Also, as I mentioned above, a LOT of these accounts were created using other people email addresses because an email verification wasnt used. Which is mind blowing, i think when I signed up for MGOBLOG back in the day there was even an email verification.
August 21st, 2015 at 12:21 PM ^
To me this is a natural development of the shortsightedness of people today. They do not consider the ramifications of actions they support.
This is blowback.
August 21st, 2015 at 1:04 PM ^
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August 21st, 2015 at 12:22 PM ^
There's a large number of .mil emails on there so it's probably safe to say that not everyone in there was engaging in a "legal" act.
Yes, what that group did was illegal and they should be prosecuted for it but I can still believe that and laugh at all these idiots who are now getting exposed for their shitty behavior.
In a twisted way they really did a large number of people a favor by exposing a cheating spouse.
August 21st, 2015 at 12:54 PM ^
As has been pointed out lots of places, email addresses don't prove literally anything. Based on my spam folder, my email address has been used to sign up for literally dozens of penis pills and bank accounts in Nigeria.
By the way, going to a website that purports to encourage cheating != actually cheating on your spouse.
August 21st, 2015 at 3:05 PM ^
Agreed but I don't think that's as big of a problem as some are making it out to be and yes, just window shopping on there can easily be viewed as cheating as just the knowledge of that is bound to make the significant other quite hurt and furious.
On a lighter note, are you telling me that penis pills and Nigerian bank accounts are something of a dishonest type of email? I just sent a wire over there and ordered some pills so I could dangle to the flo!! If this is all a hoax than I will has a sad.
August 21st, 2015 at 4:47 PM ^
I get that. My guess is that a lot of emails were obtained by ALM without the owner ever having visited the site. I used to work for a major email marketing company and we had a huge problem with clients bringing in lists they "procurred" only to find they basically stole them from databases online.
August 21st, 2015 at 12:55 PM ^
that can't recognize that most comments are directed at the stupidity/naivity of the users.
Using your work/government e-mail? Dumb.
Trusting a site for "cheaters" not to cheat you out of the $19 you paid them to delete your information? Naive.
And there's a big difference between your examples and the Ashley Madison breach. The most damaging consequences won't be the viewing of users information by friends, neighbors, parents, etc. It'll be the viewing by the one spouse that was cheated on.
August 21st, 2015 at 12:58 PM ^
No email verification means you could use ANYBODYS email address to sign up. Imagine a 12 year old kid looking up their parents email address and seeing that it was used! Both Ashley Madison and the posting of this was wreckless but go ahead and laugh and believe all of these people were actually cheating and are now getting "what they deserve". Use some goddamn common sense.
August 21st, 2015 at 1:04 PM ^
It offends me.
August 21st, 2015 at 3:07 PM ^
I don't know to many 12 years olds surfing the dark net.
August 21st, 2015 at 1:25 PM ^
You are saying that most people are saying "they deserve it" because of the way individuals signed up for their account.
So if they had signed up properly, those people are good with the affair?
I think a vast majority are saying "that's what they deserve" for having trying to/having an affair.
August 21st, 2015 at 1:20 PM ^
August 21st, 2015 at 1:49 PM ^
Not to get political, but someone is definitely getting hurt by abortion.
August 21st, 2015 at 6:56 PM ^
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August 21st, 2015 at 2:05 PM ^
2) I was not at all trying to equate the acts of watching porn, cheating and abortion.
I was comparing peoples delight at this public sharing of stolen, private information to the same action with differing circumstances.
But those circumstances ARE circumstances that others find potentially much more morally outrageous.
The posters believe that because what the users were trying to do was immoral to them, that the public shaming is not only justified, but to be celebrated.
I find that premise, and the vitriol with which it is being advocated very disturbing.
Maybe I have seen v for vendetta too often.
August 21st, 2015 at 1:41 PM ^
Contra your point, I know I'm in the one in the overwhelming minority in that I'd have no issue with A or B. Maybe I'm cynical, but I have no expectation of privacy.
August 21st, 2015 at 2:09 PM ^
I believe celebrating the public distribution of private information is rewarding a bad trend.
August 21st, 2015 at 2:32 PM ^
that Dog & Pony Show techical operations are weak at guarding data might be beneficial.
August 21st, 2015 at 2:52 PM ^
August 21st, 2015 at 2:11 PM ^
I never mind having conversations with people who have different views, as long as they are consistent.
August 21st, 2015 at 3:40 PM ^
I'm not sure why you feel like the fact you have no expectation of privacy should automatically mean no-one else should have that expectation. That's not a great argument.
As I said earlier the only stakeholders(no pointing and giggling doesn't make you a stakeholder) coming out of this happy are the divorce lawyers and some hacktivist asshole who loves how much damage they caused in the lives of people they didn't like, but didn't think of the colaterral damage.
August 22nd, 2015 at 1:02 AM ^
Sure, you can go down the shades of grey slippery slope, but the only scenario you present that comes close to marital infidelity is abortion without disclosing the pregnancy to a spouse.
For many of us, while we certainly have strong beliefs with regard to privacy, we have just as strong beliefs that when it comes family and friends honesty and truth on topics of relevance are equally paramount if not moreso. It's a value thing, and for the sake of the millions of faithful spouses that get hit on by the millions of people with no regard for the institution fo marriage or the institution of respect and honesty, this Ashley Madison bust makes me feel good, and comes nowhere near the line on that slippery slope where my internal beliefs are teetering.
August 21st, 2015 at 12:22 PM ^
Future customers would want to be instructed, by the site itself, on spoofing and alias creation techniques?
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August 21st, 2015 at 1:08 PM ^
Except when there's a highly publicized worldwide internet dump.
I dunno, maybe they increase their fees to cater to the incredibly stupid.
Why would anyone trust them to actually do anything they claim?
August 22nd, 2015 at 1:06 AM ^
I'll be honest. When I first learned about Ashley Madison - as a form of institutionalized minimalization and disregard for the value of honesty between spouses and the value of truth - I genuinely felt a visceral revulsion and sadness for the direction of our species.
Nothing, and I mean nothing would give me more satisfaction if not relief, if this disgusting company went belly up.
August 21st, 2015 at 12:24 PM ^
As has been noted elsewhere, ALM did absolutely no validation of email addresses; you could put in anything and they'd let you look around. Obviously once people started paying for it they kept better records, but just because a bunch of email addresses are in there doesn't mean those are actual users.
That said, the two fanbases at the top don't surprise me one bit that they'd visit Ashlet Madison "just to check it out."
August 21st, 2015 at 12:53 PM ^
August 21st, 2015 at 12:32 PM ^
Another recruiting advantage. There must be so free stuff walking around that no one needs Ashley Madison down south.
August 21st, 2015 at 12:42 PM ^
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August 21st, 2015 at 1:44 PM ^
I am not married but I can see the appeal for it esp for men.
- Things get stale with 1 person, even if you love them. Esp once you get past year 5-6-7 with them. Reason for 7 year itch...
- People crave excitement / change
- Some people are just risk takers period in all facets of life
- If you have kids you don't want to create upheavel in their lives via a divorce
- Some guys have great "domestic" wives who do everything for them - i.e. laundry, cook, etc so they have a generally good life so why ruin that via divorce?
I am not saying cheating is right thing to do - just giving you insight on a few of many reasons people do it. All of these reasons of course have to supersede the logic part of your brain that tells you it is wrong - but often other parts of our brain dominate for periods of time.
August 21st, 2015 at 1:49 PM ^
I've been married for 17 years - I totally get the reasons. I guess it's a matter of maturity and knowing there are consequences. You have to decide what you value and be willing to lose the thing that you value least, whether it be your marriage or the thrill and excitement of someone new. It's not as if these people are the first ever people to test the waters of commitment and fidelity. It's more of an indictment of those willing to monetize this unattractive piece of human nature.
August 21st, 2015 at 3:11 PM ^
Sure, don't have sympathy for the skeezy spouse looking to cheat on their skeezy spouse. But what about everyone else on this site? There have been lots of posts about various users recently, some are single dudes looking for cougars. Some are single girls looking for sugar daddies. Some are happily married people in open relationships. Two posts I saw pop up on my twitter feed concerned a guy who is married, but whos wife knows he's on there and what he does as she has a medical condition - they dont want their kids/friends/etc to know though. The other post was about a gay man from Saudi Arabia who used AM while in the states because they promised better security than other dating sites. Now he's trying to flee SA because homosexuality is punishible by death (it's own, other topic).
What about those people? This isn't "ha-ha cheaters!" this is an internet site, promised to be private, that lots of people used.
August 21st, 2015 at 4:03 PM ^
As long as the spouse is in the know, I don't know why they'd need a cheating site. They can just go to Match.com or whatever the dating site flavor of the month is. I was speaking specifically to those who use the site as it's advertised - to cheat. We look down on cheating in sports (how many times have we chastised the Buckeyes for their various infractions?). Cheating in marriage isn't any different. I guess you could argue that marriage or monogamy is unnatural or untenable and I probably wouldn't disagree. But I think if you enter into it with a contract with the other person saying you're going to forsake all others, the person who gets cheated on basically against their will - against the contract - has grounds to be pissed and to think that their spouse is a cheating lying sack of shit. But if the two people agree that they're not going to forsake all others, then that's between them, and then it's not cheating. It all depends on what both parties agree on, and that should always be explicit (in a clarity sense, not a provocative XXX sense).
August 21st, 2015 at 4:29 PM ^
August 21st, 2015 at 4:33 PM ^
I'm sure they exist; we just don't know about them ;)
August 21st, 2015 at 4:00 PM ^
First of all, in most states, there are "no fault" divorce laws. So whether you cheat or not is irrelevant anymore. Courts are pretty much indifferent as to cause. You just need one "unhappy" party and ouila.
Second, the consequences for men filing for divorce are decisively worse than for women. Loss of property (house), loss of companion, separation from children, alimony and child support favor the wife in the majority of cases, and pretty much financially annihilate the guy.
Third, the national stats suggest women are the ones filing for divorce in the majority of cases (high 70s% of all divorces).
Don't agree with cheating, but explains why they don't "just divorce".
August 21st, 2015 at 4:13 PM ^
I do think the financial repercussions of divorce need to be rejiggered to be more fair to the men. I have a family member who got financially skewered by his ex-wife and for the life of me, can't figure out why the judge is siding with her. I think once the kids are out of the house, the husband's financial responsibility to his ex-wife should be greatly reduced if not eliminated completely. Why should he be responsible for someone who can go out and get a job?
August 21st, 2015 at 1:22 PM ^
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August 21st, 2015 at 1:43 PM ^
MSU wins again. The Land Grant Trophy continues to reside in East Lansing.
August 21st, 2015 at 2:08 PM ^
Anyone who signs up for ANYTHING on the internet and thinks it is 100% going to stay private is probably kidding themselves. There is no such thing as complete security on the internet.
So if do sleazy stuff on the internet, I'd kinda make sure you're ok with someone someday finding out about it, because it COULD happen.
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