Sam Webb says two of his sources are telling him Harbaugh to Michigan is unlikely
"The feeling of two sources that know and talk to Harbaugh (one of which has been actively selling the 49ers coach on the virtues of returning to Michigan) is that he isn’t likely to choose college over the pros. It’s a sentiment that has grown stronger over the past few days."
http://michigan.scout.com/story/1488269-michigan-coaching-search-rumbli…
December 4th, 2014 at 8:52 AM ^
That sucks if true but that just means it's time call Uncle Les and get him to AA.
December 4th, 2014 at 8:54 AM ^
-Harbaugh comes out himself and says he's not coming
Or
A deal is officially put in place.
Until then, it's going to be more he said, she said.
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I think it's way too soon for anyone to know anything. Brady was just fired, what, three days ago? How would it look if solid reports started coming out that JH (or anyone else) was a done deal?
That would mean Hackett had already negotiated the deal while Brady was still the coach. Even if Hackett was in contact before Brady was fired, I think he's smart enough to know that if that information got out it wouldn't paint him in the most positive light.
I honestly think it will be about a week before we know anything. And the longer it takes the more likely it is that we're getting a Harbaugh. Because if they said no, and Hackett called Les, he'd be on the next plane. Probably wouldn't even tell his family or pack his office.
December 4th, 2014 at 9:45 AM ^
Yup. I've always thought Jim Harbaugh would be a long shot. He'd be an absolute homerun but a tough pull from the NFL. I think Super Bowl and NFL glory are his #1 goal. I don't think people should get upset if Michigan doesn't get JH, because he may have not been a realistic candidate in the first place. However, if something prevents them from hiring or making an honest attempt at Les Miles I'd be upset because I think that would say more to the disfunction and pettiness of the UM administration rather than not pulling in a top level NFL coach.
December 4th, 2014 at 10:01 AM ^
I tend to begrudgingly agree. He's only coached one NFL team. I would imagine he'd want to at least try out another team before he decides college is more his speed.
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December 4th, 2014 at 9:03 AM ^
I want to downvote your post because the information makes me sad, but that wouldn't be fair to you. Let's hope Sam is off on this one.
December 4th, 2014 at 9:04 AM ^
December 4th, 2014 at 9:07 AM ^
and is consistent with Brian's reports (that Harbaugh is interested, but likely to remain in the NFL).
Also, Sam is one of the few people that we know is connected to the program, unlike Henson or the DSR. Here is my theory:
Harbaugh loves Michigan, but is drawn to the NFL, because his brother and Pete Caroll both have rings, while he doesn't. Also, the NFL is an easier job (no recruiting, less travel, no stupid speaking engagements...) that pays (slightly) more and allows Harbaugh to be with his family more.
I also think (this is not confirmed) that NFL coaches think of college coaches are the guys who couldn't hack it in the "big league". This is historically true, and combined with all the other facts shows that Harbaugh is unlikely to come home.
December 4th, 2014 at 9:15 AM ^
I agree with a lot of your take here, but I don't recall ever seeing Brian write/tweet/vocalize that "Harbaugh is...likely to remain in the NFL". Brain has been explicitly consistent that Harbaugh will be interested, but beyond that he's essentially said "who the hell knows"...could be one way or the other based on who you're talking with (NFL guys vs. Former players/local guys).
December 4th, 2014 at 9:40 AM ^
has written that Harbaugh to Michigan (or the college ranks) is unlikely, but Harbaugh is interested in coaching Michigan.
I also agree that he should come to AA, fix our program and then try the NFL again in 5 years.
December 4th, 2014 at 9:31 AM ^
I largely agree with you but Jim can have it both ways - and he knows it - he can come and be the savior for his alma mater for 5 years, get the program humming again, and go back to the NFL at age 55 or 56 (Pete Carroll is 63 btw) with plenty of time to compete for a ring. Not to mention, he could sit back and coach Michigan and make the move back when the right NFL gig opens up. His current choices - Jets or Raiders (though with many more likely to come after the season wraps up)-- are less than ideal for a guy who wants to win a Super Bowl. Also, maybe he's realizing that his style is just better suited to college. Who knows.
December 4th, 2014 at 9:07 AM ^
December 4th, 2014 at 9:11 AM ^
he was continuing to follow in the footsteps of Bill Walsh and remaining in the Bay Area where his wife reportedly likes it. But now that things have gone sour, it is disappointing to think about Jim taking just any other NFL job over coming home to Michigan. The Raiders are a mess, and while going there would keep him in the Bay Area he'd be roaming the sidelines of O.Co Coliseum rather than the Big House. The Bears might be a better fit culturally and seem more "Harbaugh-like" in terms of his aura and background, but the current fit to the players and coaching situation seems a stretch. And the Jets, Giants, Falcons ... talk about moving away from the West Coast to an environment where he has no roots. I'm sure any of those fan bases would take him, but still...
Winning a Super Bowl with the 49ers would have been an even better story for Jim than winning a Rose Bowl at Michigan. But I think anyone wearing maize-colored glasses or not recognizes that if the 49er Dream Job doesn't work out, the next best place for Jim Harbaugh to secure his place in the annals of coaching legends is Michigan.
If some former teammates of Jim's have been talking to him and they're getting negative vibes, it could just be that he'd rather give off negative vibes than positive at this point. After all, he's still coaching a team and there haven't been any negotiations yet. However, if Jim is using his teammates with relationships to Sam Webb as a "reverse back channel" way of letting the fan base down easy, then that's another matter. If it's the latter, I would think Sam would word it that way: "I am the chosen one, to bring this news down from on high. Prepare to be disappointed, people!" I agree with Brian's thoughts in his Searchbits posts that it would be smart of Harbaugh to indicate virtually nothing one way or another until things play out a bit further.
December 4th, 2014 at 9:09 AM ^
"Expect nothing, blame no one, do something."
Forget the rumors, speculation, and hype. If Jim becomes M's next HC, fine. If he doesn't, forget him and move on. EOS.
December 4th, 2014 at 9:09 AM ^
This is why I get a little concerned when people on the Internet keep parading around "Harbaugh or bust!" like it's gospel.
December 4th, 2014 at 9:12 AM ^
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If it makes anyone feel better, this is what Chris Balas said about this over on the Rivals board:
"There are very few "sources that talk to Jim." The ones who know believe it's a very realistic option, but even they don't know.
50-50, if Michigan does it right - which I think they are. "
December 4th, 2014 at 9:16 AM ^
This shouldn't be a shock to anyone. He was never a serious candidate. Miles will come in for 4 or 5 years to stop the bleeding but UM needs to start thinking about a real long-term solution.
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December 4th, 2014 at 9:48 AM ^
Would probably be closer to "insider" knowledge than just about anyone else on this board. Only a few others, like "Reader71" (who actually played for Bo) would be closer still.
And Reader71 hasn't said anything. The "omerta" code is strong among Bo's Boys but if there was no chance Jim wasn't coming, at least one of them would have said something by now.
December 4th, 2014 at 10:13 AM ^
... to notice that Reader 71 has been silent lately.
It would not be entirely shocking if Reader 71 had better inside info than Sam Webb...
December 4th, 2014 at 11:44 AM ^
Clandestine meetings, press conferences with double and triple meanings, undercover posters going dark - this is better than Homeland.
December 4th, 2014 at 11:17 AM ^
Do you see how crazy we are all getting here? Maybe you're right and 71 is keeping quiet for some reason - or maybe he just paying attention to his job which is what I should be doing!
December 4th, 2014 at 9:59 AM ^
for next season, the stronger his barganing position is with everyone. SF wants to keep him? Contract extension time with big pay increase. Raiders want him? Big pay increase and more or total control over personnel decisions. Add Michigan into the mix and his agent tells the others, 'you know, Jim can go back to Michigan if he wants, you have to sweeten the pot.'
December 4th, 2014 at 10:02 AM ^
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I imagine that keeping his future plans nebulous enhances his bargaining position for whatever job he eventually does decide to pursue. This doesn't mean that he has no interest in the Michigan job, but it's not to his advantage to comment definitively either way.
Bottom line, I don't think we can read anything meaningful into his lack of public comment on the Michigan job, or any job for that matter.
December 4th, 2014 at 9:24 AM ^
Just kidding. I already donated. I would donate more to hear what I want to hear.
December 4th, 2014 at 9:26 AM ^
Someone close to JH allegedly told Sam Webb that he "doesn't think" Harbaugh would switch from the NFL to college.
This isn't news. This is speculation. Or informed speculation, if you will. But it's still just speculation. Harbaugh-to-Michigan remains one plausible outcome among several, the rest of which center on NFL teams.
December 4th, 2014 at 9:32 AM ^
I think we all appreciate his insight into UM recruiting. That, however, is based on creating relationships with the recruits themselves. When I think back to his inside scoops or "gut feelings" I believe they are based on what recruits have told him not what coaches/administrators think.
I have to question his status as an insider to the "program" though. With whom, exactly, does he have the inside relationships with? The Head Coach who is no longer at the school? The assistant coaches who are out there right now looking for their next jobs and would know nothing that is non-public? The former AD who is selling pizzas somewhere? The current AD, with whom any one of us likely has as good a relationship with as Sam does?
So at what level of the "program" does Sam have these great contacts that give him insight into the head coach hiring process?
On the other side of the fence, there are so many conflicting stories about what JH is thinking from "those close to him" that those anonymous sources should be discounted entirely. People have a tendency to inflate their own importance...someone may think they are a trusted JH confidant and may tell others that they are, but only JH knows for sure. Sam may trust someone who looks like they would be in a position to know, but as others on the board have pointed out, there are lots of those sources out there.
Reading tea leaves is fun and all when it comes to recruiting and Sam is as good if not better than the rest, but call me skeptical when it comes to insight into an extremely closely held head coach hiring process.
Just one man's opinion.
December 4th, 2014 at 9:45 AM ^
Is someone like Jamie Morris or any one of Jim's former teammates, who might actually know what he is thinking because they talk to each other.
Other than that, though, I agree that these "inside sources" are all over the board. Since none of those "inside sources" have actually been characterized as former teammates or family members, I'm skeptical of all of them (except the ones who relate what I want to hear, of course).
December 4th, 2014 at 10:06 AM ^
The last thing I heard from a friend (who played with Jamie and Jim) said that Jamie indicated "Jim to Michigan was a done deal". With all of the other crap flying around, I know this sounds like another bullshit "I know a guy who knows a guy" but I am about as optimistic as can be about Harbaugh coming. I still think it's possible that he stays in the NFL, but I really think he's going to be the HC at Michigan immediately following his NFL season. What I hadn't heard until yesterday (Tom Beaver thread) is that Michigan may be doing something through the 49ers that might speed up the timeline.
December 4th, 2014 at 10:56 AM ^
Well I believe Brian has said with no qualifications that no one is as well connected with Michigan as Sam is. I'd say Sam's opinion on this is worth a lot
December 4th, 2014 at 11:45 AM ^
when the entire population of decision makers has changed over the past few month, from UM's president, to AD, to Head Coach to the entire staff...where do these "connections" lie?
December 4th, 2014 at 12:15 PM ^
He may know many in the AD, but are all these people in the AD knowledgable about what Harbaugh is thinking? Has Hackett released a bunch of info to the AD as far as how things are theoretically going with Harbaugh re: negotiations?
I agree Sam seems extremely knowledgable about many of the inner workings of the AD, but this may be a situation where the only people who actually KNOW anything are Hackett/Schlissel and Harbaugh. And possibly some lawyers who write contracts. And maybe some people in the front office of the 49ers. I don't see any of those people discussing their most closely held secrets with Sam.
December 4th, 2014 at 9:34 AM ^
TJB is a petulant little douche who is not much better than Greg Henson at throwing shit to the wall to see what sticks. Sam isn't always right, but he is far more connected.
That being said, the problem with all of these reports is they are all second or third hand and we don't know if Harbaugh himself knows what he wants to do.
December 4th, 2014 at 9:36 AM ^
December 4th, 2014 at 9:55 AM ^
That's Gregggg Henson to you.
December 4th, 2014 at 9:36 AM ^
Then offer him enough money to make him interested.