Fall Roster Overanalysis 2014!
The phonebooks are here, ladies and gentlemen, and you know what that means.
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QUARTERBACK | |||||||||||||||||||
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Player | 2011 | 2012 | Fall 2013 | Spring 2014 | Fall 2014 | 11 to 12 | 12 to 13 | 13 to 14 | |||||||||||
Devin Gardner | 205 | 206 | 210 | 218 | 216 | 1 | 4 | 6 | |||||||||||
Russell Bellomy | 189 | 201 | 215 | 210 | 206 | 12 | 14 | -9 | |||||||||||
Shane Morris | 202 | 202 | 204 | 2 | |||||||||||||||
Wilton Speight | 230 | 234 | N/A | ||||||||||||||||
RUNNING BACK | |||||||||||||||||||
Player | 2011 | 2012 | Fall 2013 | Spring 2014 | Fall 2014 | 11 to 12 | 12 to 13 | 13 to 14 | |||||||||||
Justice Hayes | 176 | 183 | 192 | 190 | 194 | 7 | 9 | 2 | |||||||||||
Drake Johnson | 203 | 213 | 212 | 211 | 10 | -2 | |||||||||||||
Sione Houma | 221 | 231 | 240 | 242 | 10 | 11 | |||||||||||||
Joe Kerridge | 238 | 247 | 244 | 6 | |||||||||||||||
De'Veon Smith | 224 | 223 | 220 | -4 | |||||||||||||||
Derrick Green | 240 | 227 | 220 | -20 | |||||||||||||||
Ty Isaac | 225 | N/A | |||||||||||||||||
Wyatt Shallman | 237 | 243 | 239 | 2 | |||||||||||||||
Ross Douglas | 176 | 186 | 189 | 13 | |||||||||||||||
WIDE RECEIVER | |||||||||||||||||||
Player | 2011 | 2012 | Fall 2013 | Spring 2014 | Fall 2014 | 11 to 12 | 12 to 13 | 13 to 14 | |||||||||||
Devin Funchess | 225 | 235 | 230 | 230 | 10 | -5 | |||||||||||||
Amara Darboh | 218 | 212 | 214 | 211 | -6 | -1 | |||||||||||||
Jehu Chesson | 183 | 196 | 195 | 197 | 13 | 1 | |||||||||||||
Dennis Norfleet | 170 | 169 | 167 | 169 | -1 | 0 | |||||||||||||
Jaron Dukes | 190 | 200 | 197 | 7 | |||||||||||||||
Csont'e York | 180 | 194 | 191 | 11 | |||||||||||||||
Da'Mario Jones | 192 | 198 | 196 | 4 | |||||||||||||||
Freddy Canteen | 170 | 176 | N/A | ||||||||||||||||
Drake Harris | 180 | 176 | N/A | ||||||||||||||||
Mo Ways | 195 | N/A | |||||||||||||||||
TIGHT END | |||||||||||||||||||
Player | 2011 | 2012 | Fall 2013 | Spring 2014 | Fall 2014 | 11 to 12 | 12 to 13 | 13 to 14 | |||||||||||
Keith Heitzman | 251 | 254 | 280 | 271 | 258 | 3 | 26 | -22 | |||||||||||
AJ Williams | 282 | 265 | 263 | 260 | -17 | -5 | |||||||||||||
Jake Butt | 237 | 250 | 249 | 12 | |||||||||||||||
Khalid Hill | 258 | 255 | 252 | -6 | |||||||||||||||
Ian Bunting | 227 | N/A | |||||||||||||||||
OFFENSIVE LINE | |||||||||||||||||||
Player | 2011 | 2012 | Fall 2013 | Spring 2014 | Fall 2014 | 11 to 12 | 12 to 13 | 13 to 14 | |||||||||||
Jack Miller | 263 | 287 | 290 | 297 | 299 | 24 | 3 | 9 | |||||||||||
Blake Bars | 282 | 291 | 290 | 294 | 9 | 3 | |||||||||||||
Ben Braden | 299 | 318 | 319 | 322 | 19 | 4 | |||||||||||||
Kyle Kalis | 292 | 302 | 304 | 298 | 10 | -4 | |||||||||||||
Erik Magnuson | 290 | 285 | 295 | 294 | -5 | 9 | |||||||||||||
Kyle Bosch | 302 | 301 | 303 | 1 | |||||||||||||||
Logan Tuley-Tillman | 300 | 290 | 290 | -10 | |||||||||||||||
David Dawson | 297 | 295 | 296 | -1 | |||||||||||||||
Graham Glasgow | 303 | 308 | 311 | 8 | |||||||||||||||
Dan Samuelson | 283 | 282 | 292 | 9 | |||||||||||||||
Patrick Kugler | 287 | 295 | 299 | 12 | |||||||||||||||
Chris Fox | 338 | 310 | 309 | -29 | |||||||||||||||
Mason Cole | 275 | 292 | N/A | ||||||||||||||||
Juwann Bushell-Beatty | 319 | N/A | |||||||||||||||||
DEFENSIVE LINE | |||||||||||||||||||
Player | 2011 | 2012 | Fall 2013 | Spring 2014 | Fall 2014 | 11 to 12 | 12 to 13 | 13 to 14 | |||||||||||
Frank Clark | 228 | 260 | 277 | 270 | 277 | 32 | 17 | 0 | |||||||||||
Brennen Beyer | 225 | 252 | 250 | 256 | 256 | 27 | -2 | 6 | |||||||||||
Matt Godin | 270 | 280 | 283 | 286 | 10 | 6 | |||||||||||||
Willie Henry | 302 | 306 | 297 | 293 | 4 | -13 | |||||||||||||
Ondre Pipkins | 337 | 315 | 313 | 306 | -22 | -9 | |||||||||||||
Tom Strobel | 250 | 265 | 268 | 268 | 15 | 3 | |||||||||||||
Chris Wormley | 268 | 289 | 292 | 295 | 21 | 6 | |||||||||||||
Mario Ojemudia | 223 | 250 | 250 | 251 | 27 | 1 | |||||||||||||
Taco Charlton | 270 | 275 | 275 | 5 | |||||||||||||||
Maurice Hurst | 270 | 277 | 282 | 12 | |||||||||||||||
Henry Poggi | 260 | 271 | 270 | 10 | |||||||||||||||
Bryan Mone | 315 | 312 | N/A | ||||||||||||||||
Brady Pallante | 263 | N/A | |||||||||||||||||
Lawrence Marshall | 241 | N/A | |||||||||||||||||
LINEBACKER | |||||||||||||||||||
Player | 2011 | 2012 | Fall 2013 | Spring 2014 | Fall 2014 | 11 to 12 | 12 to 13 | 13 to 14 | |||||||||||
Jake Ryan | 230 | 242 | 240 | 235 | 236 | 12 | -2 | -4 | |||||||||||
Desmond Morgan | 220 | 230 | 228 | 232 | 232 | 10 | -2 | 4 | |||||||||||
Allen Gant | 196 | 212 | 222 | 223 | 16 | 11 | |||||||||||||
Royce Jenkins-Stone | 206 | 225 | 221 | 234 | 19 | 9 | |||||||||||||
James Ross | 225 | 220 | 225 | 227 | -5 | 7 | |||||||||||||
Joe Bolden | 230 | 225 | 225 | 231 | -5 | 6 | |||||||||||||
Ben Gedeon | 236 | 236 | 240 | 4 | |||||||||||||||
Mike McCray | 237 | 242 | 241 | 4 | |||||||||||||||
Michael Ferns | 233 | 239 | N/A | ||||||||||||||||
Noah Furbush | 210 | N/A | |||||||||||||||||
Chase Winovich | 220 | N/A | |||||||||||||||||
Jared Wangler | 219 | N/A | |||||||||||||||||
CORNERBACK | |||||||||||||||||||
Player | 2011 | 2012 | Fall 2013 | Spring 2014 | Fall 2014 | 11 to 12 | 12 to 13 | 13 to 14 | |||||||||||
Raymon Taylor | 169 | 183 | 183 | 182 | 184 | 14 | 0 | 1 | |||||||||||
Delonte Hollowell | 164 | 177 | 180 | 175 | 178 | 13 | 3 | -2 | |||||||||||
Blake Countess | 176 | 182 | 182 | 183 | 180 | 6 | 0 | -2 | |||||||||||
Terry Richardson | 154 | 167 | 172 | 170 | 13 | 3 | |||||||||||||
Jourdan Lewis | 170 | 174 | 175 | 5 | |||||||||||||||
Channing Stribling | 171 | 176 | 178 | 7 | |||||||||||||||
Reon Dawson | 170 | 178 | 178 | 8 | |||||||||||||||
Brandon Watson | 185 | 188 | N/A | ||||||||||||||||
Jabrill Peppers | 202 | N/A | |||||||||||||||||
SAFETY | |||||||||||||||||||
Player | 2011 | 2012 | Fall 2013 | Spring 2014 | Fall 2014 | 11 to 12 | 12 to 13 | 13 to 14 | |||||||||||
Jarrod Wilson | 190 | 200 | 202 | 205 | 10 | 5 | |||||||||||||
Jeremy Clark | 191 | 205 | 206 | 205 | 14 | 0 | |||||||||||||
Dymonte Thomas | 190 | 191 | 193 | 0 | 3 | ||||||||||||||
Delano Hill | 205 | 205 | 205 | 0 |
ITEMS OF INTEREST
Peppers is big and stuff. He's over 200 while no other corner cracks 185; he is essentially the size of Michigan's safeties. Which might be good because he might be a safety. Also of note: the other freshman corner is also larger than all other corners.
Derrick Green continues being serious. Down a full 20 pounds from last year's 240.
Yo-yo-ing is bad for your health, Keith. Or whatever. But he put on all that weight to play DE/DT and now Michigan is all like SYKE.
Jenkins-Stone now plausible. A worrying drop to 221 in spring was followed by a rebound and now he's pretty decent size for a WLB. Or SAM in the over. You know what I mean.
I thought you were supposed to be huge? I listed Furbush at 240 in his recruiting profile and thought that was a bit conservative since many recruiting evaluations started with "as big or bigger than his listed size." Instead he checks in at 210. Typo? Malaria? Weird optical illusion wherein everyone sees a much larger person than is actually there? I mean, dude is not ten pounds lighter than Jared Wangler, right? I'm confused? I keep asking questions?
More generally. There really seems to be no reason to play any of the freshman LBs other than Ferns. You've got a three deep and they're 220. Redshirts for all.
Funchess 2.0? I see Bunting listed at 6'7", 227 and see visions of busted blocks and eventual resignation to the fact that you've got a 6'7" WR with skillet hands. For a given definition of "resignation."
Hello redshirt. Drake Harris was already dinged up and now he's dropped weight. He's now the same weight as Canteen and listed at three inches taller.
DL increments. Not a ton of huge swings there but Henry did drop 13 pounds, hopefully so he can stay on the field longer without tiring out and seeing his technique fall apart. Hurst is still a bit short of ideal at 282. Wish Beyer could have added more than six pounds from last year; must be physically tapped out. Ditto Ojemudia. Seems like he's just about done expanding.
Cole expanding. Mason Cole going from 275 to 292 means breaking the glass on his redshirt is only 90% of a Total Panic Experience instead of 100%. The rest of the OL seems to be converging on 300 pounds from various directions with the exception of Ben Braden, who is just enormous.
Big enough. I think it's 50/50 Glasgow starts at tackle. Both Kugler and Miller are 299, which is large enough, and he looked good there in spring.
Two of the biggest positive data points to come out of this are that Pipkins has continued to keep his weight down, and, a bit further under the radar, that Chris Fox has dropped almost 30 lbs to get back to functional weight.
Has there been any buzz about Fox at all since the spring? He was one of the more highly-regarded linemen we brought in -- I remember seeing a couple of Buckeye threads where people actually admitted being disappointed they didn't land him -- but his injury caused him to balloon to critical mass. In the best-case scenario, he could push -- or even surpass -- Braden for the RT spot.
For those who may have forgotten, here's a tidbit from his recruiting post:
…a massive player with a solid base, and despite that mass, he moves very well. He's already built like a college lineman, and has time to add strength before contributing in college - even though he probably doesn't need to. Fox was one of the few players to win a rep against 2014's top player, Da'Shawn Hand, and was not soundly beat on any rep.
230+!
Navarre II
That we be great to see him play like Navarre.
I have mostly fond memories of our DL sized former QB
Green weighed 270 pounds in high school. At this rate, there'll be nothing left of him by the time he graduates.
I look at that O-line graph and just hope Miller's a true 299 and has improved over the summer. A little experience along the line would be nice. But if Kugler wins the job, so be it.
Nope. Green started at 270, dropped to 220s his sr year in HS then showed up in AA 240. So he is just back to where he was 24 months ago but I assume more of it is muscle now.
Look pretty promising! Can't wait to see Darboh exploit all the single covereages he gets because teams stacking up on "Megatron 2.0"
lack of weight change is great! Always great to see all these players drop all the bad weight and put on the exact same weight in muscle. More STRONGER but MAINTAIN QUICKNESS moar.
Looking forward to Derrick Green doing this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7wbO3ZOQMbQ
Ouch!
I really hope we get a couple of those this season, both from Green and Smith!
Added 20 pounds since I've been here, gotta keep workin tho! pic.twitter.com/yc8hSXbwt1
— Drake Harris (@drakeharris14) July 24, 2014
The link to Jabril Peppers instagram post is below.
I don't seen any weights above that I think are really that bad. On top of that, Rich Rod was looking to run a 3-3-5, which, while it has a few more DBs, tends to have more bulk on the DL and at the LB level, at there are only 6 non-DB box guys to fill gaps, so they need to be a bit bigger. That's why you see the LBs bulking up from around the size Michigan's current LBs are, to the 240s-250s.
On top of that, let's look at the big gains from '09 to '10 (15+ lbs)
Gallon (165 to 180)
Huyge (288 to 306)
Schofield (268 to 293)
Lewan (268 to 294)
Omameh (276 to 299)
Campbell (318 to 333)
Bell (220 to 245)
Simmons (185 to 200)
So those are guys, outside of Campbell, that needed huge additions. The OL, all 8 returning, only three were above 280 in the 2009 season, and only one in the 290s. Bell was a MIKE, Simmons was a box safety, the OL were small, and Gallon was really small. On top of that, remember (and this includes numbers above), weights and heights are exaggerated for effect. Lewan and Schofield probably weren't in the 290s by then (probably mid-to-high 280s). Omameh was likely low 290s.
You'll notice the guys that made big jumps from 2010 to 2011 were similar schematic changes.
Miller (217 to 234, from WR to TE)
Roh (251 to 269, from OLB to WDE)
Heininger (267 to 295, from DE to SDE/3T)
Cam Gordon (207 to 222, from Box SS to SAM)
Mike Jones (208 to 224, from Box SS/OLB to LB)
Brandin Hawthorne (203 to 214, from box safety to SS/LB)
Green's weight staying down is important too and that's been talked about. But, I think RJS weight gain of 13 pounds is pretty impressive and I'm looking forward to seeing him finally get on the field and start using the talent that I think he has. Although he may be a little undisciplined at times (OSU fight last year), I like his aggressive style of play and his athleticism. There are so many good LBs. It will be hard to see JMFR gone next year, but there are a lot of talented guys that I'm excited to see. This is a really exciting position for UM.
Kuglar at 299. Say what?
There's a trick to recognizing that early on, maybe.
Some guys come in as LB's and end up DT's. There are countless examples of guys that stay within or go beyond the playing weight.
Same with finding the right position. It takes until Sr. year for some to finally find a home at their "correct" position. Usually a pleasant surprise, but disappointing considering they often get only one or two years to make an impact.
There is no science behind it.
Too hard to recognize until 1,2, or 3 years of eligibility have been wasted through trial and error while looking for the right combo of size and best suited position. Well, I guess that is the scientific method - sort of.
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