Quinn: Howard Likely Back Next Year

Submitted by MGoLow on January 18th, 2024 at 3:51 PM

Brendan Quinn, who is (or was) pretty plugged in with the bball program, opines here($) that Howard likely stays next year. Basically, he thinks Warde gives Juwan a Harbaugh-like chance to reset the program with big changes to the staff and roster. Thought this was interesting given the source and most of our general opinion that Juwan's time is running short. 

Perkis-Size Me

January 18th, 2024 at 4:25 PM ^

Not sure that's the right move given this team has tended downward every year since the Elite Eight run in 2021, and they look downright awful this year. But I do think Juwan at least deserves the chance to finish the season and show what else, if anything, he might be able to do. 

Although I doubt it, maybe the OSU win will light a spark and get them to win a few games. Still quite a bit of season left, so who knows. Again, I'm not holding my breath, but I'd say let him just finish what he started and see what happens. 

Jordan2323

January 18th, 2024 at 4:27 PM ^

I don’t have an issue with what is behind the required demands, I have an issue that it should have been done this past off-season. The downward spiral has been going for a few years now. If this is what is going to transpire, I’m glad there is actually a reset that is going to happen. I don’t believe Juwan is head coach material, that’s just my opinion, but if he gets strong assistants with him and changes the culture of the program then maybe it’ll work out. I’d love for him to succeed, I just don’t see it. It’ll be interesting to see what route he goes with staff and roster changes. 

truferblue22

January 18th, 2024 at 4:27 PM ^

HAHAHAHAHHAH Warde sucks SO BAD

My favorite was him being quoted during the parade talking shit about how his inaction led to a national championship. 

 

I was NEVER on the "fire Harbaugh" train, but for him to take credit in the way he did just slays me. 

TheBlueAbides

January 18th, 2024 at 4:31 PM ^

I’m ok with it I guess, it’s going to be a rebuild anyways why not let Juwan have one more crack at being the guy to do it. Not to mention if you ship him out the Fab 5 is going to be mad at the program again and then there is more discontent between the past and future. Look at football the way the 97 team was on hand in Houston, all former players are a part of that, bball needs it too. That said, I’m probably just still happy and ok with the bad results to do an event that took place January 8th, 2024. Hope they can get the bball team on track again.

bacon1431

January 18th, 2024 at 4:34 PM ^

I’ve always thought it was unlikely that Juwan was fired after this season due to the health issues. Don’t like where the program is and I have a hard time seeing it get turned around unless some drastic things happen but when your coach has to step away completely a month before the season starts, it’s always going to be an uphill battle 

Perkis-Size Me

January 18th, 2024 at 4:52 PM ^

All the same, that season tells me that at least on some level, Juwan CAN coach. 

That team did have important Beilein holdovers like Livers and Brooks, but Dickinson, Smith, Chaundee, Wagner (Beilein recruited him but never coached him, so as far as I'm concerned he's Juwan's guy) were all a product of Howard's coaching. They were all Juwan's guys. Even Austin Hatch experienced a renaissance that year that he never had under Beilein. 

I am nowhere near smart enough to understand what is plaguing the team currently, but its not like the 2020-2021 team was carried solely by Beilein's leftovers. I know losing huge transfer options like Shannon and Love were huge blows to the program, but they shouldn't have been this big. 

InterlopingYooper

January 18th, 2024 at 4:45 PM ^

How is Warde still employed? Beilein walks under his watch. Juwan drives the basketball program into the side of the mountain, yet will hang on for another season apparently. Erik Bakich departs, and I'm not sure if we still field a baseball team. This past football season, we got absolutely destroyed in the court of public opinion with no pushback from the athletic department. Harbaugh is about a hair's breath away from leaving on the heels of a national championship, and the biggest hang ups between him and a contract he can sign center on the fact that he doesn't trust his AD as far as he could throw his fat ass. 

DennisFranklinDaMan

January 18th, 2024 at 5:21 PM ^

And the hockey team has sucked and the football program has sucked

I mean, if you cherry-pick your evidence, sure. But blaming Warde for letting Beilein "walk" is unfair. Should he have knee-capped him? Handcuffed him to his desk?

Beilein wanted to go. Unless you have some evidence that he left because of Warde, it's unfair to blame him for it.

meeashagin

January 18th, 2024 at 4:58 PM ^

The biggest issue I see with Michigan BB is they let Juwan's best player walk (#1 over transfer) because they don't believe in donor funded NIL deals??? I'm sure it also saves them money to not fire Juwan and lastly but maybe most importantly he has a 5-star PF that could change a lot, immediately, in Khani Rooths coming in next year.

Obviously, I'm on record being extremely lenient with Juwan mainly because of our approach to NIL and the noted academic hurdles. Now having said that I can't ever remember a time when I didn't watch every second of every game Michigan plays yet I can honestly say I didn't watch 1 second of the Ohio State win (not even box score or highlights) for the first time in my life. I haven't watched any Michigan basketball since early this year.

It's just to painful at this point. And honestly I'm okay with the basketball sucking for a bit provided we dump every recourse known to mankind into keeping Jim Harbaugh.

 

jonnyknox

January 18th, 2024 at 5:04 PM ^

I would think that if there were going to be great roster changes Warde must be talking about offering up front money.  Because that is what at least 50% of the teams are doing. 

Roster needs to get older.  Not impossible, but there are so many other teams looking for the same experienced players.  Cannot be done with 5-star, one and done recruits.  

DennisFranklinDaMan

January 18th, 2024 at 5:18 PM ^

I like the idea in principle, but ... I sort of thought he should have done the massive reset last summer. 

Still, I don't mind giving him one more year. I like Juwan, and I certainly don't want him to feel he wasn't given a real chance here — I think keeping good feelings between the school and the Fab 5 is worth a year — but ... I hope he understands the situation.

Ham

January 18th, 2024 at 6:42 PM ^

There's another aspect to this that I haven't seen mentioned yet.

If Howard is brought back for another year, there's more at stake than just another lost year and the program being further in shambles.

If they wait until next year to start the head coaching search, they may miss out on a guy who won't be available after this year. Dusty May has turned FAU into a top program and probably won't be coaching there for much longer. I obviously don't know if he would agree to come to Michigan if offered (fwiw, he's from Illinois, he went to Indiana, and his first coaching job was an assistant at Eastern Michigan), but this offseason may be Michigan's last chance.

They shouldn't pass up the opportunity to hire the guy who can turn it around just to delay the inevitable.

spacecowboy

January 18th, 2024 at 7:34 PM ^

referendum night.  

bob seger...turn the page is the song warde needs to hear this morning.  If interim coach needed crean would be serviceable.   Holding on to the current commits can happen with the right hire.

 

 

colonel

January 18th, 2024 at 9:10 PM ^

The home losses to both Long Beach and McNeese in the same year are the data points that get me. Each loss is a terrible look, but maybe one of those losses could be explained away as just a bad night from an otherwise decent team. College kids got homesick over their Holiday break, weren't focused, shit happens. But one cannot explain away two such losses...

HollywoodHokeHogan

January 18th, 2024 at 9:59 PM ^

For all the complaining about the portal, Howard got a bunch of previously good defensive players to transfer in.  And the team still sucks at defense.  I don’t know how’s that’s on admissions or NIL. I’m sure being Michigan’s head coach is hard, but I don’t think it’s unreasonable to set the bar at consistently making the tournament.  Barring a big turnaround, he’s gonna miss it for two years in a row.  

Michfan777

January 19th, 2024 at 12:40 AM ^

I just can’t see how Warde can possibly keep an objectively shitty coach.

If he does, I hope the administration completely ties his fate to Howard - like how NFL owners tie the fate of coaches to their GMs.

On the bright side, that means both of them will be gone next spring.