Does Seth ever stop talking?

Submitted by bluinohio on December 8th, 2022 at 3:03 PM

Goodness, I'd like to hear what Brian thinks but between Seth and Craig on the round table he doesn't get much air time. 

MGoOptimist

December 8th, 2022 at 3:31 PM ^

Most weeks I feel like it is Craig who doesn't get to say much. I feel like Brian just chooses not to talk much sometimes. Would be nice if he learned to mute his mic when coughing or clearing his throat though lol

MattisonMan

December 8th, 2022 at 3:38 PM ^

They can each talk as much as they want but the MGO crew should to find a way to clear their throats fully before podcasting. It's a constant stream of weird cough and gurgly sounds. And the non-Seth/Brian guys have some super intense vocal fry. Shakes fist at cloud.

dmoo4u

December 8th, 2022 at 3:45 PM ^

if you watch the video, Brian is clearly multi tasking and has no interest in chiming in. i think Seth was doing Brian a favor rather than talking over him. 

CLord

December 8th, 2022 at 3:49 PM ^

Gratz on being the MGoBlog equivalent of a Karen dude.  Seth pours endless, seriously endless  hours to provide incredible content for free to beneficiaries like you, and you dare to criticize him.

I'd slap you through the internet if I could.

4godkingandwol…

December 8th, 2022 at 3:50 PM ^

Honestly, at this stage I think MGoBlog is just as much about the story of Seth as it is of Brian. This is not devaluing Brian’s role, simply giving credit to Seth stepping up and taking on more. 

AlbanyBlue

December 8th, 2022 at 3:57 PM ^

IBD.

Jesus, this is a horrible take. Seth provides awesome content about one of my favorite things in the world. And as someone put in another topic, Craig Ross is a national treasure. 

I'm sure if Brian wants to interject more, he will.....

DonAZ

December 8th, 2022 at 4:00 PM ^

What's the record for OP downvotes?  Because we may have a contender here.

My hot take: I prefer Seth's writing to all others on this site.  I do.  I think he's got a wonderfully concise style.

Needs

December 8th, 2022 at 5:05 PM ^

I really enjoy Seth's stuff as well, but "concise" is about the last adjective I'd use to describe his writing. I will confess to skimming large parts of his "post-play" UFRs because they just get too long for my taste. (This is a "me" problem, not a Seth problem)

DonAZ

December 8th, 2022 at 5:15 PM ^

I guess what I was trying to say is he's concise within the context of what he's trying to accomplish with whatever he's writing.  A UFR is, by its nature, going to be lengthy. But within that UFR, where he's making a point about a given play, what he offers is fairly to the point.

tnixon16

December 8th, 2022 at 4:05 PM ^

I guess it’s an unpopular opinion, based on the comments. But I share it. He’s got decent insights, but he feels like he needs to get them all in when it’s his turn to talk. He usually ends up at about 135% of what needed to be said on any given point. 

Caesar

December 8th, 2022 at 4:22 PM ^

I don't think OP phrased this post in a way that invites a healthy discussion, but even still, I'll fire out my two cents:

- Sometimes I get lost in what Seth is saying, true. I think this has to do with my limited understanding of the Xs and Os. 

- I have no problem with the frequency or issues of disagreement. In fact, I think disagreement is a great way to explore the issues. But I wish Brian wasn't as dismissive. If he disagrees, just providing a brief reason instead of moving on without comment would be great. On the other hand, I can understand that the strict time constraints of radio might create pressure to just move on. 

- I'm not sure it's really our place to say what's right or wrong about their professional interaction. They figure that stuff out between themselves. I think the evidence points to them being fine with how things are. They've been working together forever, and I think if they're still at it, there's a ton of mutual respect, whatever our view of it looking in. 

 

UofM Die Hard …

December 8th, 2022 at 4:27 PM ^

Couldn't disagree with this more, I now listen to a lot the podcasts mostly because he is on..of course Brian and Craig too, but Seth provides gold.

Now if you were to ask me the same question regarding Dave, during the MGoPodcasts I think there is a lot of interrupting over Brian and Seth, that gets me at times. 

And he never participates in the needed hot take voice, cmong man!

 

Seth

December 8th, 2022 at 5:00 PM ^

I'm guessing this is in response to WTKA today. Can I ask which medium you took it in? I'm wondering if by cutting out all the dead silences (I run an effect called "Truncate Silence" that turns any pause more than half a second into 0.45 seconds) from today's show it made it seem like I was just going on. Live and on video it was still an awkward show but you might have been able to tell that was more due to Brian being kind of distracted today and Craig trying to figure out how to get his phone to stop ringing. There were a few times I got to the end of a thought and then nobody was talking, so I was like, okay, well, I'll keep the show going.

milhouse

December 8th, 2022 at 7:31 PM ^

Seth, I watched the YouTube live stream and you were fine today. A lot of these episodes at the end of the season and in the summer are awkward. I get the feeling that Brian isn't a fan of the round table segments when there isn't much to talk about. And, Craig on has so many Cazzie Russell stories...

buddhafrog

December 8th, 2022 at 7:36 PM ^

Ignore OP Seth. if at times you "never stop talking" it's b/c you are filling he empty space. This is a good thing. You addition to the podcasts over the last couple years has been a great bonus. 

I would like to hear Brian more but he has streaks on not talking a whole lot. This has increased over the past couple years as he's been going through his stuff. But you shouldn't change imo

Koop

December 9th, 2022 at 10:31 AM ^

This week's WTKA roundtable was awkward for lots of reasons. I listened on Apple Podcasts to the MGoBlog version with the commercial break included. I didn't have the benefit of video.

Ira sounded overwhelmed with multiple things to handle in Sam's absence.

Craig's phone ringing--even on a podcast, it was clear who was having the phone problems--was so on-brand it was hilarious, even if it was distracting.

Seth, if I were to give notes--from some limited experience in facilitating and participating in panel discussions--is to consider giving yourself a limit of just one key comment before ending on a hook for another panelist to comment. For example (making it up): "From what I saw, Michigan played soft coverage in the first half because they expected Purdue to try to get chunk yardage on plays to Charlie Jones and the tight end. When Purdue stuck to the quick release game, Michigan adjusted and played tighter coverage, which seemed to work. Is that what you saw, Brian?"

Seth, it's okay as a panelist for you to "throw" to another panelist to keep the conversation going. Ira or Sam won't mind if you do--that's helping them with their job. Craig does that for you and Brian sometimes, and it comes across on-air as showing a great deal of respect for your depth of knowledge, not a cop-out. That's a good thing.

If I were going to give notes for Brian, I would say this: many of the comments here reflect that Brian comes across as dismissive and negative about your comments, particularly but not exclusively on the roundtable, to the point that people wonder whether there is interpersonal friction between the two of you. Whether that's true or not, that dismissiveness is detracting from the product. Many sports broadcasters have made enjoyable and successful content out of disagreements--in fact, audiences tend to tune in to shows that foster conflict and argument. That's part of what sports "analyst" content is about--fostering entertaining debate. But dismissing an idea without engaging with it robs the audience of that debate and leaves the audience wanting, to the point that people begin wondering whether there is an interpersonal conflict between the panelists. If Brian is going to participate in these discussions, he needs to engage with the presentation and with you as a fellow panelist.