Raylen Wilson decommits
wtf....
This wasn’t a surprise.
Are they ever?
Not great, Bob!
Why do I always seem to get blamed?
Of course he did.
I'm sure money he is being offered is extremely hard to turn down
If only we had some rich football fans on our side willing to fund, say, a player's collective
Our rich fans cannot contribute on their own. They have to go through the University and the University said it would not pay players NIL money to sign, and once sign they can look for NIL opportunities. Most of the top schools are using NIL as singing bonuses. So, no wonder he is leaving.
"They have to go through the University"
No, they don't.
"the University said it would not pay players NIL money to sign"
Universities are never paying NIL money - it HAS to be outside groups.
... and State of Michigan law prohibits NIL for "prospective students".
They absolutely do not have to go through the university. In fact that is the problem is that Michigan isn’t facilitating it. If one of our donors wanted to do what the Miami guy did they could.
its also what makes it clear warde isn’t the problem. Harbaugh backdoor directing boosters is the easiest thing in the world to do. He’s just not willing to do it.
NIL is probably part of it but I also think opposing teams have been drilling him about JH looking at the NFL last year. Combine both of those factors and this is not a big surprise
Ope.
Shit guys, signing day is tomorrow!
I thought this was funny.
Might as well be.
Did someone tell him tho that we have cool helmets?
....and that we offer a TRANSFORMATIONAL NIL, not those silly transactional ones.
...and a song...
...and a hole in the ground.
That alone should be enough.
“Pure Michigan” is one of the comments to the tweet. Yikes
Gee, I wonder why.
Those big recruiting weekends haven’t worked out too well. Kinda wondering what’s up.
They are telling kids we aren't offering you anything to come here. When you get here then we'll set you up with something but no guarantee. Meanwhile other schools are promising big NIL money to get them to sign.
ND is doing exactly what you said Michigan is doing (not paying players to come, but telling them NIL opportunities will be available later) and they seem to be recruiting just fine.
ND’s & UM’s NIL funds are pretty much identical. Neither is paying kids upfront to commit. One team is recruiting at an elite level currently and one is below average.
As much as people want to bitch about NIL, it's not the main issue
the main issue is that we lost our great recruiting coordinator in Morgan, we lost our OC and DC, and our head coach almost left for the NFL
It's gonna take a minute to recover from that
Yeah. And it's also the NIL. Not for every kid. We'll put together a class when it's all said and done. It'll be a decent one but not great - likley one of the lowest ranked ones in the Harbaugh era. But even if none of the above coaching issues had happened, we'd be struggling with some of these top tier kids. This is the wild west right now. We are bringing a knife to a gunfight. Whether that's right or wrong, I dunno, but we picked the wrong year to have both coaching instability and a tepid approach to NIL.
The question is, is the party boat leaving the dock and we're still on shore? Or is the boat going to sink at sea, and we're glad we were a few minutes late?
Nobody knows for sure, but it's not fun watching everyone else head out to sea.
This seems right. Will NIL just keep growing and growing or will it implode? One relatively low ranking class will not hurt the program, especially with the current roster. If you go back to back average classes that is when you will see the dip. 2024 is huge for this reason. Need to have another great season and hope NIL cools down on upfront payments.
My quarter says NIL is in its infancy. It will become bigger and as it does, so will corrupt practices. Eventually some of these kids won't need the NFL to set themselves up for life.
Hey AF, just out of curiosity, how are you feeling about that 45-14 score from a few years ago?
Couldn’t care less about a score from 3 years ago, why?
Was Michigan or ND competing for a title that year?
That question is as pointless as asking about the game the year before that, when both teams did have CFP aspirations, when discussing ‘23 recruiting & NIL.
You are the guy who messes everything up but has no accountability, so tries to create a distraction by blaming others to change the discussion. Cool.
Once again, explain to me how ND and Michigan can be doing the exact same thing with NIL but have two completely opposite results?
Michigan offered & recruited hard the following kids & could have them. ND didn’t pay any of these kids. They ALL could be Michigan commits. But zero are because Michigan lost the head to head battle with ND:
Keeley, Drayk Bowen, Peyton Bowen, Pendleton, Limar, Jagusah, Houstan, Traore, Vernon, Jason Moore, P Zinter, Bell, Shuler, Gray, and in the ‘24 Class, Carr, Cam Williams, Larsen, Swain & Wafle.
Michigan wins those battles instead of ND, they have the top recruiting classes. And they won zero of them.
Talking about obsolete. You're listing kids STILL in high school! Stop the Steal!!!
Lol, wow, triggered much?
I just like to call out ND trolls when I see them. And you’ve been trolling hard for a while now. You enjoy your lucky charms and mediocre record this year, okay?
ND has that shiny new coach smell.
Sort of like when Hoke was on fire.
Hahahah, if you think ND is also offering nothing you're smoking crack.
Exactly!
Michigan is prohibited by law from offering anything to come here... schools in other states - that isn't necessarily true.
The kids are looking for fast cash. They're not finding it here.
Wait wait wait..you mean to tell me that a top 100 recruit UM had, they lost due to coaching changes? Disregard that his hometown team, all SEC teams and others are throwing the kitchen sink at these top 100 kids to come play for them. Give me a break. Sure, coaching changes play a factor, look at ND. But if you truly think it’s solely based on the coaching changes that UM lost Wilson, well, that’s completely short sighted.
Nd is the prime example that nil isn’t the problem and it is the coaches. Brian Kelly left nd because he thought they etc too rigid to compete at an elite recruiting level. Turns out the problem was him
Sorry, I’m not buying it. I do agree that coaching is important but NIL is bigger. Sure, ND has the allure of a brand new coach, but UM never got that attention of multiple 5 stars when JH came back from a successful stint in the NFL. Top 100 (hell even top 200) are getting offered the world at the moment and ND is getting them solely based off a new unproven coach? It’s why we’re losing out on Moore and Wilson, presumably.
We didn't? I seem to remember Michigan having a top 5 class and the #1 recruit in the country in 2016 but maybe I am just imagining that. Or having a top 5 class and pulling a 5 star DT from Georgia in 2017 in addition to keeping the 5 star wide receiver home in Michigan.
The story on Moore is he liked Gattis and didn't like Weiss. Its not an NIL problem.
Imagining. Michigan was outside top 5 in most, except rivals in 2016. 2016 was propped up due to how many recruits UM took, iirc. Pulling a 5 star out for GA is impressive and that class in 2017 was monster no denying, which my guess on going 10-3 previous year showed UM was turning the corner, thus getting that great class. We can argue about this, but this is a Jordan vs. James argument. NIL has completely changed the game for CFB just to a couple seasons back. I still dont buy this as only coaching for having such a successful class.
And the story is that Moore is going to ORE because of NIL deal.
I suppose that Texas, UL, U, A&M just to name a few are a byproduct of their coaching to get these top recruiting classes that are blowing UM out of the water.
You are exactly correct ak! Kelly was an a$$hole. Also, I think the nil deals that players have already received confirms for players that the promise of an nil deal after you get here is justified.
Yikes
Yes, of course we are all aware signing day is months away however I'm not sure it's possible to be in worse recruiting shape in late June than this team currently is in. And yeah thumbing their noses at NIL is hurting UM but gotta wonder how much Warde welcoming JH back with open arms despite his obvious desire to be elsewhere is costing them too.
Makes you wonder if the reason JH appeared so desperate to take the Vikings job is because he saw this NIL debacle coming.
I haven't been on the board lately but I can't believe this is where you guys are leaning? It wasn't mostly JH trying desperately to jump ship? It wasn't Gattis giving the double bird on his way out? It wasn't us losing our DC as well? This is so much more about JH and our rivals floating to recruits that he's going back to the NFL, then straight up does what they said he would do. He's proven he's only one foot in the door.
JH was trying to get Ward to open up NIL. He would not, so JH tried the NFL. He did not get hired and this was his fall back job. After this year you cannot blame JH for 7 to 8 wins with only 3 star recruits.
Is this a theory or do you have evidence that this was what transpired?
Let’s see how much money he’s getting elsewhere