December 21st, 2021 at 9:56 AM ^
A lot better than with no testing... wtf?
December 21st, 2021 at 9:59 AM ^
He's a Covid denialist. Ignore.
December 21st, 2021 at 10:01 AM ^
Nope Covid is real. Very real. It’s deadly as well. Just as this point it’s not going away. The original concept was to not over load the hospital system.
December 21st, 2021 at 10:09 AM ^
Well then you are not paying close enough attention. The hospitals are at crush levels right now across the country. West Michigan is just coming out of the crush again. Acting as if it is better is very Ostrich like.
December 21st, 2021 at 10:12 AM ^
There’s a whole world out side of west Michigan.
December 21st, 2021 at 10:25 AM ^
Unfortunately because of rapid exponential growth, we are not just worried about Western Michigan.
December 21st, 2021 at 10:27 AM ^
Yea. You are not really worth the use of intellect. Enjoy the day.
December 21st, 2021 at 11:18 AM ^
The intellect of testing student athletes who are a super small group of the population as a whole, when the overwhelming majority are not tested unless they show symptoms? Oh okay sorry I’ll jump on board with more pointless things for 100.
December 21st, 2021 at 11:10 AM ^
And a lot of of the world is feeling the crush. Are you saying that nowhere else in the country hospitals are once again overwhelmed by COVID patients, the vast majority of which are unvaccinated?
December 21st, 2021 at 11:25 AM ^
Yes they are but how does testing student athletes and only them, frequently really create a substantial impact so that the hospitals are not crushed?
December 21st, 2021 at 2:46 PM ^
But that wasn't your argument. We're talking about how testing helps identify people who may have the disease and, along with vaccinations and mitigation efforts, try to minimize hospitals being overwhelmed. Your response was flippantly stating that testing hasn't helped and that's there's a whole world outside of western Michigan that, by implication, wasn't being overwhelmed. You've since been trying to dig out this hole and it ain't working.
If your point was that testing of athletes is excessive then so be it; I don't have a strong opinion either way. But the fact it took you 3-4 responses to get to that point makes me think that wasn't your original intent.
December 21st, 2021 at 5:07 PM ^
Wrong I never made a point to begin with. I asked how is preventing it working out? No one answered. Someone brought up western Michigan all I said is there’s a world that exists outside of western Michigan, like texas and more! I then made a point which I’ve made in other posts, not that I need you or expect you to look that far though. Testing college athletes and them only despite being symptomatic or not is insanity.
December 21st, 2021 at 2:23 PM ^
And it’s just as bad in southeast Michigan. My elective major surgery has been postponed because there are very few open beds. The surgeon is hoping things calm down enough to get it done in February. Between Covid and staff leaving for declining the vaccinations, our hospital systems are stressed to the max.
December 21st, 2021 at 11:11 AM ^
Not really, hospitals are not overloaded. The current strain as reported is not as deadly as the original version. My 79 year old mother who smokes so much pot she needs an inhaler to breath was diagnosed two weeks ago w Covid after 2 days of Revdesmir is home and fully recovered.
December 21st, 2021 at 11:17 AM ^
And i bet you drove home drunk one time and nobody got hurt, so i guess we should legalize DUIs now. Maybe try thinking before spouting insane, or ignorant bullshit
December 21st, 2021 at 11:22 AM ^
Actual data says you are wrong about hospitals...
But I'm happy your weed-toking granmama is doing well.
December 21st, 2021 at 12:50 PM ^
Thanks! She wasn't vaccinated either. She's a California hippie from the 1960's and is very liberal, believes in free choice, suspect of the government and big pharma. She's not one of the younger liberals of today, intolerant, oppressive, extremely authoritarian.
December 21st, 2021 at 2:17 PM ^
"...liberals of today, intolerant, oppressive, extremely authoritarian."
Ugh, dude, you have your definition of 'liberal' mixed up with something very different...
December 21st, 2021 at 10:03 AM ^
It’s really stopped cold… Dead in its tracks.
December 21st, 2021 at 10:34 AM ^
In a country with plenty of availability of the best vaccines available, it could be significantly slowed down. Testing isn’t the problem.
December 21st, 2021 at 9:53 AM ^
Been a member since 2013 but post history begins three months ago? Hmmm....which Bolivian is this?
December 21st, 2021 at 10:04 AM ^
Some leader back in April 2020 said COVID would go away if we just “stopped testing since it increase positives”. Can’t remember his name but that absolutely pristine logic worked out didn’t it…
December 21st, 2021 at 7:44 PM ^
Wasn't that Dr. Clorax!
December 21st, 2021 at 10:06 AM ^
they are being tested so often just looking for positives to push the narrative
I'm genuinely curious to hear what you mean by this because it's gonna be good
December 21st, 2021 at 10:23 AM ^
you suck.
that is all.
December 21st, 2021 at 10:39 AM ^
Stupidity is ruining this world far more effectively than politicians.
December 21st, 2021 at 10:55 AM ^
I would think both are pretty even in that race
December 21st, 2021 at 12:11 PM ^
Stupidity is the fertile soil in which politicians plant their ‘cash’ crops.
December 21st, 2021 at 10:45 AM ^
So...just to get this straight. What you're trying to tell us is that you're an idiot?
December 21st, 2021 at 11:00 AM ^
Explain to us who is getting rich by canceling bowl games...
Mods: Please let him answer before banning / locking this thread.
December 21st, 2021 at 1:04 PM ^
Pfizer for one $36B in 2021 profits. Cancel games = more fear = more shots.
December 21st, 2021 at 1:35 PM ^
Would be fascinated to see your study of the relationship between more cancelled football games and more shots. If such a relationship did exist, that would actually seem like an argument for canceling more games.
December 21st, 2021 at 2:37 PM ^
If you want to discuss the healthcare system as a whole and how capitalism and healthcare can be at odds, go for it. But to just pick the vaccine as a singular evil, a way to rob people of their freedom in the name of profit, that's some high level paranoia.
December 21st, 2021 at 4:09 PM ^
So Pfizer is conducting an active campaign (in secret of course) to lobby for Bowls cancellations because (checks notes) in December 2021 that is going to scare people into getting the covid vaccine?
December 21st, 2021 at 1:39 PM ^
There's so many inaccuracies in your asinine post that I'm just gonna say this: Over 99% of Covid related deaths right now are amongst the unvaccinated.
December 21st, 2021 at 8:36 PM ^
It has ruined the world...but because of dumbfucks like you, not because of respecting a virus that has killed 700k americans.
December 21st, 2021 at 9:51 AM ^
We may eventually get there, but as a society we are not yet ready to knowingly accept non-symptomatic covid-positives in our public activities. I also disagree that bowl games will change their dates or move what are massive public undertakings by the host cities that really don't care if a few starters are missing from the visiting participants.
Watching the NFL/NBA right now where suddenly the other team's best player is out after testing positive, I imagine we will have at least one major missing piece going into the game. All the more reason, we are blessed with two quarterbacks.
That said, it is 50-50 that we are the beneficiaries in facing a depleted Georgia or Alabama team because of COVID. Frankly, that is not a bad position for an underdog to be in. If I am coaching this team, they are practicing and doing the PR events with masks and get a spray-down of their hands with anti-biotic every 15 minutes up to that last COVID testing round.
December 21st, 2021 at 9:53 AM ^
Everybody back into the submarine.
December 21st, 2021 at 10:12 AM ^
Good points here in a measured post in the middle of some caustic comments from other folks.
The only issue is that while UM has 2 viable QBs, I'm pretty sure I heard that Georgia has 3....
December 21st, 2021 at 10:15 AM ^
I wouldnt bet on a depleted Georgia or Alabama. I just don't see those schools making the choice to test and then sit out important players. Texas A&M isn't playing for anything, just another bowl game. If they were in line for a possible championship appearance I think this scenario plays out a lot differently.
December 21st, 2021 at 10:38 AM ^
We may eventually get there, but as a society we are not yet ready to knowingly accept non-symptomatic covid-positives in our public activities.
I may be missing something, but are you in favor of such a proposition? I think at this point we all realize that being asymptomatic is not the same thing as being harmless.
December 21st, 2021 at 11:12 AM ^
"The saddest aspect of life right now is that science gathers knowledge faster than society gathers wisdom."
-Isaac Asimov
December 21st, 2021 at 11:49 AM ^
I mean, at this point the wisdom is going backwards
December 21st, 2021 at 11:12 AM ^
We should be operating in a bubble and not participate in any PR events next week. Screw the NCAA. Covid has changed how things work and trips to Sea World or rib eating competitions are not worth the risk.
December 21st, 2021 at 9:53 AM ^
I say this before it gets locked, which it will, but why are they treating athletes different than the general population at this point? I go to work everyday and no one tests me. Spiderman had the 3rd largest grossing weekend of any movie ever, so the theaters were packed. The stadiums are packed and they aren't testing fans. Why are players being treated differently at this point?
December 21st, 2021 at 9:55 AM ^
Exactly they’re being unfairly singled out. The rest of the student athletes are subjected to it either.
December 21st, 2021 at 9:56 AM ^
Employees and the general public have different rules and have for years. I can go to the bar and make misogynistic and or racially charged statements. I can still grow my tab. I try that at work and I lose my pay. Is it clearer now? Seems like it should be obvious. why is COVID so hard for a minority of this country?
Edit: Student athletes are employees, make no mistake about that.
December 21st, 2021 at 10:00 AM ^
So all of the UM employees are tested? Or in this case Texas A&M?
December 21st, 2021 at 10:38 AM ^
NCAA and UM and TAM are not the same. As for UM, the employees must be vaccinated, greatly reducing the transmission of COVID, while students are not mandated to be vaccinated. So, to reduce transmission, you test.
December 21st, 2021 at 11:50 AM ^
U of M employee here -
We were required to do weekly testing, until the vaccine mandate was in place. Post vaccine mandate - you're required to get vaccinated or be fired.