Ajcoss

December 6th, 2020 at 12:13 PM ^

Not sure this NFL stuff is true. Good news today though that both Baumgardner and Angelique are saying they haven’t heard a thing. They both are pretty reputable for Michigan football. Gotta think the two of them saying this is a positive to the Balas news yesterday.  

Please please play Saturday vs. OSU. We need this for change. 

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JFW

December 6th, 2020 at 10:46 AM ^

Live the rumor mill. I also like the commenter who said Harbaugh is the worst coach in Michigan history. Must be a 6 year old who can’t access Google. 
 

idiots. 

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lhglrkwg

December 6th, 2020 at 12:10 PM ^

Yeah, Florio is reputable in NFL circles, but it's also good to remember the NFL always loves to stir around rumors that favor them. Wouldn't surprise me if these rumors are basically hopeful front offices talking to Harbaugh's agent and Harbaugh's agent is just fishing around for what might theoretically be available to Jim

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JhnnyHelp

December 6th, 2020 at 12:32 PM ^

Reputable? Florio is, in fact, a clown show. He’s constantly on the wrong side of his NFL hot takes. He was the one who Aaron Rodgers called out a couple years back for being a moron. And he has been the loudest voice saying how stupid the NFL franchises have been for playing this year. He’s one of the worst. 

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cGOBLUEm

December 6th, 2020 at 10:48 AM ^

During Harbaugh's tenure, and especially after the RR and Hoke years, I had felt that one of the most important things this program needed was stability. I often looked at Wisconsin and MSU as examples of schools that always recruited lesser talent but had stability as a factor playing into success. After 6 years of disappointment, I am fairly certain that my feelings and assumptions were wrong. If nothing else, a coaching change will bring about new feelings of hope and excitement. Those are feelings that I always enjoyed as each season approached. It made college football and Michigan fandom fun. With this coaching staff, those feelings are gone for me. If nothing else, a new coaching staff will bring the opportunity for new found success and will restore excitement (at least for me) in the program. I hope the rumors are true.

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mitchewr

December 6th, 2020 at 11:10 AM ^

Stability is only good if you have quality coaching. What good is stability when the coaches can’t organize the recruiting department, can’t develop a single QB, leave holes all over the roster, can’t make meaningful in-game adjustments, can’t motivate the team, can’t get the team to rise to challenges and win an upset, and consistently lose games to significantly less talented teams?

Wisconsin’s stability is a benefit because they consistently over perform despite getting lesser recruits. Which means their coaches are forging teams whose whole is worth more than the sum of the parts...that is the kind of coaching we need and once we find it, THEN stability will be worth it

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cGOBLUEm

December 6th, 2020 at 11:31 AM ^

I 100% agree that stability is meaningless if the coaching, recruiting, etc. is subpar. I truly thought that Harbaugh would be able to bring stability to the program, if based on nothing more than success and winning. In 2015, I really believed that he would end up going toe-to-toe with OSU, that he would dominate MSU, and that Michigan would eventually be in the national spotlight regularly and for good reasons. It pains me to think that 6 years later, none of those things has come to pass. Michigan could very well be looking at having its 5th head coach in the last 14 years. The AD needs to figure this out, because that is unacceptable at a school like UM. 

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Newton Gimmick

December 6th, 2020 at 11:40 PM ^

Wisconsin is basically 2018 Michigan, every year, but in a much easier division and less institutional pressure to beat Ohio State.  (They never beat OSU either).  We said at the time it wasn't good enough, and it isn't. 

And even though he could have likely repeated those results every year, Jim seemingly felt similarly unsatisfied with being Wisconsin and gambled on a new offense.  Unfortunately the risk of a higher ceiling is, if you screw it up, a much much lower floor 

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JFW

December 6th, 2020 at 1:43 PM ^

I remember that as well. 

I really kind of cringe when I hear people say “this is unacceptable at UM...”

I’d be thrilled to be Wisconsin right now. 

The fact of the matter is that while we have some advantages (large fan base, money, great, if challenged, name recognition) we also have some headwinds (an administration that doesn’t seem as football dedicated as that of OSU, somewhat stricter academic requirements), and nothing definitive that will prevent us from being Tennessee or Texas. Further, while we have a history of B1G titles through the 90’s we don’t have a history of elite, national title teams.

Acting like a Tennessee or Texas situation can’t or won’t happen, or even shouldn’t barring smart decisions and even a little luck, because we “are Michigan”, is silly and not realistic. 

And that’s really scary because I don’t see our athletic department making smart decisions. It’s also scary because imho the “”unacceptable at Michigan” idea lends itself to the idea that we just need to keep cycling through coaches until we find the one coach who fits our self perceived elite excellence. 
 

 

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JFW

December 6th, 2020 at 2:14 PM ^

Well we absolutely will be if we just switch coaches and expect more success without anything else changing. We are who we are.
 

I honestly think whoever coaches we have a real opportunity if NIL becomes a real thing, and we are smart and aggressive about it. Add an “nfl prep” degree and add a little luck and leverage the strengths we have, we might level up.

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JonnyHintz

December 6th, 2020 at 11:28 AM ^

The thing about “coaching stability” is that it also has to be schematic stability. Harbaugh being here 6 years is great and all, but we’ve gone through 4-5 OCs. Granted, Brown is only our second DC but this is also the first time he hasn’t produced a top 15 unit. The programs you mentioned don’t lose assistants nearly as often as Michigan.
 

So while we change up the staff and schemes and how players are taught, those teams bring back the same staff, same schemes, same teaching methods. So while they may not be as “talented,” they’ve had the same scheme and concepts drilled into their heads for multiple years. That’s the biggest difference between MSU/Wisconsin stability and Harbaugh stability. The coach being there for a few years doesn’t mean a lot didn’t change within the program over those years. 

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JFW

December 6th, 2020 at 2:02 PM ^

To my mind losing Fisch and that scheme really hurt. I wish we had gone forward with that and found a coach to run that. Keep schematic stability. Wisci does that. We’ve been too fickle. 

And though people hate this; I’ll say it. The expectation is for the position. Focus less on trickery and “modern” schemes and more on executing. 

I really dislike the spread. And every time we’ve run it here we can’t seem to do it well unless we have near perfect QB play. But If that’s who we are let’s own it, focus on executing it flawlessly, and if we replace Gattis find someone who can run it similarly and focus on execution and better playcalling. 

the rest is smoke and mirrors. 

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bacon1431

December 6th, 2020 at 10:52 AM ^

Michigan fans the first couple years of JH’s tenure: Florio, you piece of shit, he ain’t leaving for the NFL! 
 

Michigan fans now: Florio better be right. 

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UMProud

December 6th, 2020 at 10:52 AM ^

This article is framed around two general facts...one that an NFL job is open locally and Harbaugh of course being a human being a related thought will pop into his head.  The other general fact is NFL teams are pondering Harbaugh which of course they are they vet every potential candidate.  Around these two general facts (water is wet, we breathe air, etc) a click bait article is born.

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