Providence announcer claiming Cooley is a done deal
I have no clue if this guy is who he says he is. But he has several people saying he broke Providence stories in the past.
https://twitter.com/mattstdream/status/1130630737961660418?s=21
Please, don’t be true. Fuck man, it was a fun ride.
I'd definitely be lukewarm if he's the guy. Absolutely pissed if the $6 mil number is true.
For what it's worth, in a reddit thread about this the Providence fans are unanimously behind the guy and are pissed about the news
EDIT: Most relevant portion from those comments.
Why would any fan be pissed about the University spending too much on a coach?
I want UofM to sign every coach to a $20mil/year contract. Nobody will ever leave us and we'll be able to get whatever coach we want. It is not my money they're spending. UofM is not in a position they need to raise tuition to fund a coach.
Because Beilein wasn't even getting paid that much. Pretty sure he isn't getting paid that much by the Cavs too. If we are willing to offer Cooley that much, why didn't we offer it to Beilein?
You know that contract is for a total of $6 million. That can't be the annual rate.
I may have misinterpreted the tweet, but $6 million almost seems too low for any Power Five conference coach, unless it's for two years (which seems too short).
If it is just for $6 million it would come off as Warde being cheap and would also be a bad sign in my eyes.
Coaching salaries for what are allegedly amateur sports are already obscene, especially relative to actual revenue (and this is before you get into the "there's no money to pay the players" spiel).
I have no problem with them spending $6 million on the best candidate, but that sure is shit ain't Ed Cooley.
I'd be pissed if they wildly overspent on a coach if I thought there were much better possibilities for that price. I don't care much about the actual salary he gets.
Wildly overspending isn't a sustainable strategy. A $20M coach can fail here too. Expectations would be ridiculous and so would the pressure. Identifying who will do the best job is an inexact science.
If you're using it to poach coaches from top tier programs, you just end up raising what those schools will spend. Will those other schools just concede an advantage to Michigan on the field? Imagine we wanted Nick Saban. Would Bama allow themselves to be outbid? If you're trying to poach coaches from a tier below Michigan, well that's normal and you don't have to pay that much.
If that's the case it would be Hoke in basketball form. Just trying to pay him for looks because we can afford it and not because he deserves it.
Sam Webb, Brendan Quinn and Nick Baumgardner have all refuted this.
The premature part scares me. That suggests that Warde already has a deal in place and just hasn’t made it official.
If Howard is just a courtesy interview, then the fan base is gonna riot.
Cooley will be on the hot seat from day 1
While I want Warde to interview and consider Howard fully, it would be terrible if the fanbase doesn’t rally behind whomever is made the head coach, even if that is Cooley. We can’t have another Rich Rod situation. The future coach will not be like Beilein and the fanbase still has to support them from Day 1 as long they represent the University well (as a person and as a good coach).
it would be very hard to do so, if Michigan is giving Cooley 6 million a year before assistants. That’s almost double coach B and he’s half the coach. That part would be hard to swallow
Agreed. I think the 6 million figure is total bullshit by the reporter (as is the rest of the tweet). That would make no sense. If that was true, I’d say fire Warde.
It doesn't say $6 million per year though, just that the "deal is for $6 million". So it could be $6 million over 3 years or something like that.
( I still don't believe it. )
That would be just as ridiculous since Cooley makes more than that now.
The only way a $6M number would fit is if it included a one time payment to cover his buyout. Some thing like $6M in year one, $3.5M the remaining years. That's similar to OSU's deal with Holtman.
I should add that 4 years is the absolute minimum contract length for a new coach.
Yeah, there's no way in hell they pay Ed Cooley 6 mil which makes this 'report' pretty easily dismissable.
Rich Rod had enough support. What he didn’t have was the concept of stopping the other teams offense. He was giving up basketball scores. And continued to do so in Arizona.
If he had won he would still be here and be as popular as can be. Same will be true for our next basketball coach
RR got a raw deal and absolutely did not have full support. It was unfair and it was stupid.
But he didn't win, and that was what cost him his job. If he follows up 3-8 with 7-5 and then 9-3, he would still be coaching in 2011. But he didn't do that, and even his 7-win season featured a defense that was beyond hopeless, an embarrassment to the program and the University.
I was hopeful and supportive of RR.
However, I went to his last game at the Gator Bowl and had second row seats. The MSU defensive players were calling out UM's plays as of the second series -- we could hear them. I don't think UM scored again after the first series.
RR was not all that and got what he deserved. His defenses were atrocious and his offenses gimmicky and not able to perform against good defenses.
Yeah but that first series was sick though.
"If he had won he would still be here and be as popular as can be. Same will be true for our next basketball coach"
Especially with Michael Rosenberg gone.
RR's support didn't really begin to crater until it became clear that 2008 was going in the dumper. 2009 and 2010 simply solidified the opinion. There were people who didn't like him from the start, but they didn't make him hire Greg Robinson.
i call BS. carr (and his loyalists) was against RR from day 1. and Gerg wasn't there until year 2. but even I knew RR had to go after the bowl game in year 3.
I was at that bowl game... kept trying to run between the tackles while they blitzed both backers into the a gap smfh. I was good with rod till I saw that live. He definitely needed to go after that
My brother is in the media and before his first game was telling me that major statewide media figures in the Detroit newspapers were horrified with him because he and Rita were country bumpkins. I don't think that bias ever left the statewide media, which amplified any minor negative thing and literally invented negative things.
Sure, had he won more he would still be here. However, I think it is foolish to think that the deck wasn't stacked against RR from the start. Furthermore, it is hard to focus on coaching when you are battling your own media about largely made up issues like countable hours.
Rich rod wouldnt have had a defense even if everyone was behind him. Same thing with Cooley.
Agreed.
Unfortunately the first time this guy has a bad month or so, everyone is going to lose their shit because we all knew it's a bad hire from the jump. Cooley will NEVER get any rope with the fans and if I'm him, I wouldn't want to put myself or my family in that situation knowingly.
Oh, and Warde's stay in AA will be short.
Rich was an offensive one-trick pony that didnt have any interest in defense, was a weak recruiter, didnt develop talent, made little effort to get to know UofM culture, who blamed others and played the victim card incessantly...but yeah fan support caused 3-9 and 5-7
Correct. The unverified Friar announcer also claims we offered Cooley $6million/year. Not likely.
If I was Warde and this was being leaked, it would be enough for me to change my mind on the hire.
He is an announcer, for their student run radio station. A smaller version of WCBN.
He also was 388 followers on twitter. That's about the same as a random college student might have. He doesn't fit the profile of someone with good sources, more likely someone that hears rumors and runs with them. He's already backtracked his tweets.
Sam webb reporting this is not true and premature. They are definitely interviewing Howard tomorrow. Also there is no fucking way Michigan pays 6 million for Ed Cooley. We didn’t even pay Beilein that much
i think he makes 2.6 m now and has a buyout clause. not saying you wrong, just adding color
Is Kirk Herbstreit a Providence announcer?
And he’s bringing Jon Tenuta with him!
This feels more like Ed Cooley getting a raise from someone at PC. They aren't paying Cooley twice as much as Beilein (and more than freaking Tom Izzo). Lots of people more connected to UM than this guy have refuted it, and while they may well end up with Cooley I doubt that decision has been made yet.
If not a raise, then boosting his profile and letting other schools he might listen when they have an opening.
You wanna piss off Michigan fan base, hire a fucking coach before you interview, many fans favorite, Howard a Michigan man for the job.
Say it ain't so.
I can’t help but think this is exactly what’s going on. Just as I was loving the fantasy of Juwan coaching this program, it turns out it was just a courtesy interview, haha surprise guys
No excitement here at Michigan wanted, no sir, we’ve got to get the lamest fucking option, St Friar from religious sanctimony with an added bit of forgettable basketball. Listen, Warde, they’ll both probably suck as coaches....get the fucking Michigan legend ffs
I assume this is a shtick, but it needs to stop. It’s not funny.
Maizen is a MUCH better poster and I think he's earned a permanent ban.
If it's true, Warde will be immolated and his (eventual) firing will be certain. Not that it will happen fast, of course, but it will happen.
Let's look at what's actually tweeted. The guy is Matt St. Jean, twitter handle @mattstdream. Twitter bio: PC '20 | Lead Color Broadcaster for Friars basketball on WDOM 91.3 | Contributor at Inside the Pylon.
So he thinks he has a good source, but notice the language: "Source has informed me..." "intends to accept a deal..." "rumored deal..."
And he has the integrity to include that last tweet indicating the limits of what he knows.
I think he's hearing some talk that's been blown up the proverbial game of telephone to sound certain when it isn't. I highly doubt this is true.
He probably underestimated the amount of attention his tweet would get.
Yeah. Honestly feel for the kid a little if he's wrong.
I mean not too bad because he was trying to break news. But he has no idea what he go himself into
He probably did hear something. But I doubt he has the seasoning to know when to be cautious about what he hears. Either he himself or his source could easily mishear stuff, not to mention the very real factor of people leaking misinformation to get certain desired effects.
Even if it were a 20-year veteran, the sourcing for this is very strange.
The one thing I will say is that we've seen, with Beilein shocking us with a new job and other things, that the Fort has become very good at plugging leaks. But that doesn't change my opinion here.