Mgoblog (Brian) Twitter rant
Looks like bowling didn't go too well
I'm just done with people who are mad at me for reacting how I do to Michigan football. If you don't like it, I don't care
For years I let people talk shit to me because I felt some sort of duty to them because they'd been around a while.
That was a mistake. If you are surprised that I am emotional and moody at this point you are too stupid to care about.
I have taken epic tons of shit for being in a bad mental spot this year; and somehow I managed to feel bad about that.
No more. I'm done taking shit from internet anons because I'm not happy about losing to OSU 9 of 10 years.
I don't owe you a damn thing. Read it or don't.
most people are not reacting like that, but shitheads are louder. this is going to have an effect on MGoBlog.
Your point total is irrelevant to my decisions. If you're making our lives shitty, you're gone
This whole season has been 50% nightmare team, 50% nightmare community. I can fix half of that.
December 1st, 2013 at 8:42 AM ^
Thanks.
I tend not to get as much Twitter hate as I have expected at times, but perhaps that's because the people who hate me don't follow me...and I don't have 25,000+ followers like Brian does. I do get quite a bit of hate in my TTB e-mail, and I get a lot of inappropriate comments on TTB. Unlike Brian, however, I have my site set to moderate the comments, so if people post hateful messages, I simply delete them before they see the light of day.
People on the internet say hateful things. It's sad but true. Luckily, I'm able to stay pretty level-headed about it.
December 1st, 2013 at 12:22 PM ^
I've seen Magnus draw from other posters was when they were hammering him about posting random pics of hotties on TTB.
I am a big fan of those pics, for the record, and I it's not like he posted any tasteless pics (in fact they are all tasty!).
December 1st, 2013 at 12:27 PM ^
LOL. You must have missed the threads about Logan Tuley-Tillman, David Dawson, and the various threads where people call me all manner of names.
December 1st, 2013 at 7:56 PM ^
but I remember the hottie pics one better because of personal interest.
December 1st, 2013 at 8:30 AM ^
agreed
December 1st, 2013 at 4:09 AM ^
Why are people holding up last year as some sort of great success?
Michigan had a TD pass for 75 yards and a TD run of 67 yards. Other than those two plays Michigan managed about 120 yards on the other 9 drives. The other scoring drive included a punt on 4th and 18 that OSU fumbled at their own 25, and that drive still required a roughing the passer on a failed 3rd down to get the touchdown. On the sixth second half drives, Michigan got 68 total yards and 4 TO (one on downs).
It was much like this year's Iowa game, a domination everywhere but the scoreboard.
December 1st, 2013 at 7:47 AM ^
Considering Michigan was essentially without its best player for the second half (Denard Robinson, in case you were wondering), I don't think 21 points and a lead is that bad.
And yes, I guess if you take away the big plays, Michigan didn't have any big plays. Good point.
December 1st, 2013 at 12:36 PM ^
They were no more without Denard than they were in the first half or the bowl game against USC. He had four carries for -2 yards in the second half against OSU because Borges didn't have a plan for getting him in the game once OSU adjusted (SHOCK!). Denard was on the field for 19 of the 51 plays Michigan ran that day.
And my point, as you know, is that if you take out the two big first half plays, Michigan had no offense. Those drives went for 3 plays for 83 yards and 2 plays for 75 respectively. The other 9 drives went for 46 plays for 121 yards, or 2.6 YPP. Only Miami (NTM) had fewer first downs and only that horrible Illinois team managed fewer yards against OSU in 2012. The defense did a great job of forcing OSU to settle for 5 FG attempts and forcing a fumble in the red zone, but the offense was worse than UAB, Cal, Purdue, and even that embarrassing MSU offense.
You should go back and look at your write up of the game, Borges' playcalling got a "WTF" and a "Play action BS", lamented how Borges didn't use Denard and Devin as he had against Iowa, called it Devin's worst game, and clamoring for Derrick Green due to the poor performance of the running backs.
What changed between then and now?
December 1st, 2013 at 1:00 PM ^
In the aftermath of the game, it appeared that Denard was not capable of playing much more (kind of like the same reason that Hoke went for two this year, because Gardner was dinged up). We kind of knew that Denard Robinson was Michigan's only hope last year because of the dearth of offensive talent.
I am not a staunch Al Borges defender, but I also think he deserves some credit for putting up 21 points on Ohio State last year and 41 this year. Those aren't paltry totals. As always, the real truth is probably somewhere between "he's terrible" and "he's pretty good."
December 1st, 2013 at 4:30 PM ^
Extraordinarily revisionistic view of last year, IMO. Especially considering your treatment of Borges following the game.
I've posted the highlights below. Nearly 10 minutes from the BTN. You'll notice that there are three offensive highlights:
1) Denard breaking a tackle in the backfield, then breaking a tackle 5 yards on, then finishing the run 30 yards down field.
2) 1The 75yd Roundtree TD reception
3) The OMG DENARD run where he gets sandwiched, then sprints to the end zone
4) A thirty yard reception by Gallon
Then there are at least a half-dozen highlights of OSU defenders blowing up plays in the backfield.
Borges didn't manage to call a single sustained drive all game long, there was the aforementioned blown coverage that Roundtree scored on, Denard making one of his signature runs, and then another TD drive where Michigan had a three and out, punted on 4th and 18, OSU fumbled and Michigan recovered on the 25, Michigan then went three and out again and had a roughing the passer call extend their drive, and then scored from the eleven.
Borges can't claim anything from that game.
December 1st, 2013 at 8:09 PM ^
"Borges can't claim anything from that game."
False. He can claim partial responsibility for the 21 points, just like OSU's offensive coordinator could claim partial responsibility for their 26 points. And they had their starting QB for that game, and their best player didn't get knocked out of the game slightly more than halfway through.
I don't understand why an offensive coordinator doesn't get credit for the calls he makes putting guys in a position to succeed. The defensive backfield blew a coverage? Well, maybe that had something to do with breaking tendencies, running a new route combination, personnel choices, formation, etc. Ohio State missed a tackle on Denard? Hmm...well, somebody clearly called that play to put Denard in a position where he was in open space to make a play.
Does an offensive coordinator only get credit for calling plays on which the defense aligns and reacts appropriately?
December 1st, 2013 at 8:31 AM ^
2-12 vs Ohio St over the past 14 years, some need something to cling to. For many here it is not about winning anymore, rather "keeping it close on the scoreboard"
To each his own I say
December 1st, 2013 at 11:43 AM ^
motherfuckin word ese
December 1st, 2013 at 7:16 AM ^
brian - please replace "I HAVE NEVER READ MGOBLOG" -Chris Perry
With "0 Fucks Given"
I dont know why you talk to anyone that has spent less time than you understanding michigan football. There is simply no point in listening to a certain percentage of your fan base, points or not, tenure or not.
This next season, I would request that you implement one thing: A more granular level of understanding of the Oline.
Thanks for your work this season and fuck those that are not incendiary for going 2-13 the past 15 years
and fuck those people that think this season is still going.
Til next year,
jigsmcgee
December 1st, 2013 at 7:49 AM ^
December 1st, 2013 at 8:32 AM ^
glad you enjoyed the game
December 1st, 2013 at 8:38 AM ^
December 1st, 2013 at 9:09 AM ^
Exactly.
December 1st, 2013 at 9:48 AM ^
Can we agree to not make anymore condesending posts regarding mlive(others) until the bell rings and this playground is once again suitable for adults. Adults, you know, not uber sensitive, power happy geeks waiting to "nuke" people. This site has digressed dramatically the past two years and the speed of the demise is increasing exponentially. As someone who finds themselves visiting the site less and less in direct correlation to the "informative content" posted and opting to post even less frequently I can say reading the mods approach is like watching someone in quicksand-- the more they kick and scream, the faster they sink.
December 1st, 2013 at 9:49 AM ^
Cheer up Brian
December 1st, 2013 at 9:52 AM ^
December 1st, 2013 at 10:18 AM ^
Go read his timeline. He retweeted several people that were just attacking him. I'm sure that those weren't the only trolling tweets he got. It is obvious that several of the people responding in this thread about how Brian needs to "man up" didn't take the time to actually click on the link to his twitter account located at the top of the page, or they would understand where he is coming from a bit better.
December 1st, 2013 at 11:51 AM ^
December 1st, 2013 at 10:42 AM ^
I think this is what started it:
@mgoblog Hopefully you can get off the whiny emo train long enough to actually cover the team this week. #HaveSomeFaith #GoBlue
— Paul Jenkins (@jenkins_paul) December 1, 2013
December 1st, 2013 at 10:56 AM ^
Taken in a vacuum, that tweet might not seem like a really big deal (it probably isn't). However, god help the unfortunate dumb ass who snaps the thread reining in Brian's (or anyone's) levity. After all of the vitriol spewing about this season, directed this way and that, it's no wonder that Brian had finally had enough. We all have those moments.
December 1st, 2013 at 12:28 PM ^
Exactly. I don't really think it was any one event, but it's the end of the season and I think Brian finally had it with the people who have been metaphorically - and perhaps literally, for all we know - on his back.
December 1st, 2013 at 10:58 AM ^
So if I connect the dots here, Paul Jenkins, amoung others, is giving Brian shit via twitter while posting here on his site? Which would account for being pissed at something in the twitterverse but retribution occuring on the blog.
Do I have this right?
December 1st, 2013 at 12:29 PM ^
Well...ummm...essentially. And I'm guessing that Paul Jenkins posts on here anonymously, or perhaps not at all. Maybe he's just a reader. Maybe Brian just was talking in generalities. It just seems like that was the tweet that set him off.
December 1st, 2013 at 12:27 PM ^
but that comment was douchey for sure. I assume he's bitching because Brain didn't UFR the Iowa game. I don't blame Brian a bit for skipping it. He is a huge fan and that's gotta be painful sometimes.
December 1st, 2013 at 12:32 PM ^
I'm not a big fan of Brian's reasons for skipping it, but like numerous others have pointed out, this is a free blog. If I paid for a subscription to Rivals or the Detroit News or something, and their writer(s) just refused to write about a game because they were frustrated, that would be reason enough to get angry and cancel my subscription. Brian's free to skip a UFR if he wants. In fact, it seems like he rarely UFR's the Ohio State and/or bowl games.
December 1st, 2013 at 12:40 PM ^
I wouldn't want to UFR a loss, either; especially one that could have been summed up by two words: "We SUCKED." It has got to be a miserable, thankless job.
To paraphrase Bill Cosby (speaking of his wife's experience): I've seen the boss's job ... And I don't want it!
December 1st, 2013 at 1:06 PM ^
"It has got to be a miserable, thankless job."
I guess that's where we differ. There are usually positive comments on the losing UFR's saying "Thanks for doing this, Brian. It must have been painful." Furthermore, a lot of people give their "thanks" by donating, clicking on ads, buying T-shirts, and/or just visiting. I take a lot of criticism on here and on my blog, but I would never call it "thankless." Lots of people take the time to express their thanks. I would say that most of my big posts (not the videos, links, etc.) have at least one commenter expressing their thanks for my analysis, information, etc. And with many many more comments on MGoBlog, I'm guessing the number of thanks he receives far outstrips mine.
Painful? Yeah. Sometimes frustrating? Sure. Thankless? Not so much.
December 1st, 2013 at 2:57 PM ^
It certainly isn't thankless. I've received plenty of thanks, much more than I really deserve in my mind. It's more that those are never the ones that stand out as much, which is probably not the best way to look at it, but it is human nature.
December 1st, 2013 at 10:21 AM ^
December 1st, 2013 at 11:13 AM ^
I do think that Brian does a great job and has the right vision. I am farily ignorant of the personalities, politics involoved here as well as blog ettiquett and appropriate deference to mods. I guess my view is that mods should be like government or referees-- as least intrusive as possible. if done well they both should have as litle impact as possible. I would encourage Brian to continue his efforts and don't water the weeds so much. Go Blue!
December 1st, 2013 at 12:20 PM ^
Brian has a great product here. As the blog has grown, there are inevitably more hosers. That's tough to control, but I feel like I can still get questions answered, meaningful discussion, and humor here.
It's easy to sift through the rubbish for the familiar faces I know will give a thoughtful or humorous response. Things work themselves out.
That said, there's no reason to outright insult or challenge Brian over everything. The problem is less people being rude (the King of Belch was rude, and he was great) but rather being arrogantly contrarian about everything.
December 1st, 2013 at 12:43 PM ^
I come here for the characters and the humor and Michigan news. Some of the x's and o's discussions are too esoteric for me; my vision and grasp of football is simpler than that. My favorite threads are the funny ones. Least favorite? Fire Borges, not because I don't want Borges fired (not qualified to comment on that) but really, how many times do people need to assert that they want Borges fired? It's like my son asking me for something the thousandth time, thinking I must not have heard him the first 999 because it hasn't happened yet.
The argument about fair weather fandom is stupid, too, but the argument about expectations for this team and this program isn't. In a nutshell, is losing acceptable?I have my own opinion, but I certainly respect the other side, and appreciate the discussion.
I miss King of Belch, by the way.
December 1st, 2013 at 12:46 PM ^
December 1st, 2013 at 1:35 PM ^
Obviously your son thinks he just needs to execute better.
December 1st, 2013 at 11:38 AM ^
dude get a life, its just football. ohio could beat michigan 100 stright times who cares it just a game just entertainment. i think some ohio fans think they win something when they beat us, hay,ohio fans you dont win any thing by beating us its not lotto you dont get more money in your pay check at work. it just 3 hours of entertainment , thats all it is, wake up ohio fans
December 1st, 2013 at 12:18 PM ^
December 1st, 2013 at 12:30 PM ^
but I think the name was ThePartyRoom, right? Maybe even all caps?
December 1st, 2013 at 12:36 PM ^
December 1st, 2013 at 12:59 PM ^
Trust me, as someone that has grown somewhat known in the blogosphere and on twitter, I think I can speak for Brian that sometimes you feel like going Marcus Hall on the haters. I'm sure I don't get nearly the amount that Brian does, but I've certainly my fair share of ad hominem attacks via twitter, I've certainly had a lot of unsolicited or unprovoked call outs here. My name is dropped on both sides of the argument and often times with words I've never said. And sometimes it's fine and other times you want to go Marcus Hall on people.
But I've been called everything from an "apologist" to an "arrogant contrarian" to a "troll" and pretty much every other word with a derogatory connotation. Maybe that's just part of putting yourself out there with an opinion, maybe that's part of going against the wave. But I have my feelings and opinions and I allow myself to take in others opinions and feelings - even try to understand them - but people will misconstrue, or twist what you've said deliberatly or not, and some people just won't like you.
There have been shots across the bow. At times I felt singled out. At times I feel like people have deliberatly tried to troll me despite my attempts to not go to the same places again, only for people to resort to name calling. I've been called "simple", "retarded", "arrogant", "dumbass", "contrarian", "apologist", I've been called gay slurs for some reason or another, and a lot of other things. The praise is always nice and appreciated, but it never stands out as much as the other stuff, and certainly doesn't make up for how much the other stuff wears you down. And it's part of the reason I've felt like leaving blogging completely, or just doing my blog and completely stay away from opinion stuff. I just hope my new job gives me the opportunity to get back into actually coaching, because I never realized how much blogging can wear you down, but it really does. And to a degree it makes you very negative as a fan (if not to the team, then to other fans).
December 1st, 2013 at 2:34 PM ^
I wish you would rethink that one.
Or at least eliminate stalking, where someone follows a user from post to post - including old posts - and negs them below the threshold. But then you can't eliminate group stalking, where a little band of merry asshats accomplishes the same thing.
There's civility and then there's conformity. A change that increases civility is good. A change that decreases trolling is good. A change that makes this even more a place of conformity to the group think is terrible - the neg vote as a petty way of avoiding having to actually argue and defend a position is one of the smallest, ugliest things that exists on the internet.
December 1st, 2013 at 3:22 PM ^
Neg voting should be allowed, just perhaps not in the way that it was used in the past. Maybe negs should cost the negger 1 point. Maybe you should have 10,000 points before being given the power to neg (or vote, period). There are several ways to massage it, but I think negging is useful in some form or another.
December 1st, 2013 at 8:30 PM ^
I think it SHOULD cost a point to neg someone else, and I agree with a threshold before you are able to do so. I'd say 5000 points (even though I'm not there yet).
December 1st, 2013 at 2:58 PM ^
I just looked back in my post history, and some pre-teen actually neg voted me on a post where I donated $40 to save a dog (!) and called my post overrated!
I looked at my post history, and the run of drive by hits on my posts (normal comments denigrated as "trolling," "off-topic," "overrated") that all occurred over two weeks where a particularly nasty group tried to bully me off the boards - that's modding by mobocracy, and I don't think you want that.
I had never been neg voted before that incident. It's flat out bullying and it discourages civility and often pushes good posts below threshold limits.
So unless you have a way to combat that, reinstating neg voting is disastrous, imo. There should have been some sort of appeals process where if it can be shown that multiple neg votes have been used solely to satisfy personal animosity and have nothing to do with the contents of the neg voted post - well, the person abusing the system needs to suffer a heavy penalty.
It remains one of the most disgusting things I've been subjected to in any internet community, and it was simply astounding that such a practice could be tolerated on a moderated board. It was messed up.
December 1st, 2013 at 3:06 PM ^
I really wish I could neg this post, just for shits and giggles.
December 1st, 2013 at 7:20 PM ^