UM Hockey Twitter war...mgoblog vs childrenof yost
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the forced niceness on various Michigan hockey twitter feeds is getting grating.
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@mgoblog Almost as grating as whiny tweets from people who forcequit on their hockey coverage midseason.
@ChildrenOfYost let's let the smouldering corpse of the tourney streak cool before telling each other how awesome we are maybe.
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@mgoblog sounds like you feel strongly about it, maybe you should publish an article on an internet weblog so others can read and discuss.
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@mgoblog Doing nothing will have to wait! Gotta go throw some water bottles at fellow spectators who aren't spectating properly.
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@ChildrenOfYost I am of course mortified that reaction has come to light in a front page article I wrote on MGoBlog. Sick burn.
The Children of Yost need to stop acting like children.
yet, you excuse Dear Leader's petulant whining when he gave up halfway through the season.
Not posting about the team =/= giving up on the team
but saying you give up on the team === giving up on the team
"giving up on the team" which to be honest, this years team was the worst I have ever seen and was hard to watch, any different than those of you that were openly calling for our football coach to get fired midseason then hoping we lose the bowl game to seal his fate?
The difference I see is that instead of openly bashing this team, that set themselves up to be bashed all season (save the last month), he simply chose to not write about them. I say props to him for holding back the public display of disapproval every game for the team.
Unsurpisingly, I agree w/ C of Yost. Brian doesn't come of as someone I would happily cooperate with due to his penchant for giving up and losing hope. He's so utterly sensitive. As a matter of fact, he also got into it with Stephen Nesbitt on twitter. He acts like a complete child.
Because saying he doesn't want to write about a team == losing hope and being a whiny person.
And my gawd, he disagreed with someone else on twitter! Hide the children and close the hatches, the world is about to end!
I don't agree with Brian on everything - I think he holds a more pessimistic view on the teams during a season than I would - but the fact that anyone is arguing an 18-19-3 team (that was 10-18-2 before a late-season hot streak) is somehow redemptive because they lost in the finals of a tournament completely ignores the fact they had no business even getting that far.
A twitter war of 5 posts? The Anglo-Zanzibar of twitter wars maybe.
Twitter hair-pulling
CAT-FIGHT?
Normally I when I see these threads I think to myself that if I wanted to follow twitter, I would follow twitter, and then the OP posts some great drama! Does this mean I should create a twitter account? What's a guy to do?
Step 1: Create Twitter account.
Step 2: Call someone a bad name.
Step 3: Wait...
Brians original tweet is pretty pathetic. I would rather be positive than overtly negative...
I'm sorry, but what's there to be positive about? This is the worst Michigan hockey team since I was a toddler. Sure they made a decent attempt at salvaging the season, but when, by all accounts, you underachieved and did not bring effort for a significant portion of the season, I would say you're not exactly begging for positive reviews.
Brian is the one who states you should never booo the team, and that you should always be in their corner...not exactly practicing what he preaches
How do you know that? I don't think Brian boo'ed the team and I don't think he ever wished for their demise. There is certainly no evidence of that.
He quit writing articles about them during the year - fine. You can support a team without doing that. He called the team out for their underperformance. Fine. But he never didn't support them.
Big difference between booing the team and objectively stating a reasonable opinion.
Of course, he was at every game this year, including the tournament. But oh yeah, he didn't wax poetic once a week about them losing to Bowling Green. Clearly not a fan.
This is his original response to Nesbitt's rather tame inquiries. I'm sure it was necessary in Brian's eyes.
@stephenjnesbitt do me a favor and don't predict what I'd say based on alternate histories.
— mgoblog (@mgoblog) March 25, 2013
Everyone is just frustrated that the season had such a disappointing outcome. You are allowed to be a fan and be upset with the object of your fandom. Saying otherwise is like saying that you can't love your spouse if you're occasionally upset with them.
I seriously hate arguments over "true fandom" and CoY is using just that type of argument here.
Or you could be like bdsisme and call college kids on the team "diseases"! Model of a great fan right there!
Not like they won any games in early February or anything! All was at the last minute. Yep....
If you can become a hero (Novak, Hunwick), you can become a villain. I'm willing to say that there's a limit here, but I don't think we should be in the habbit of never saying anything critical of a college athelete. As far as the 'disease' comment, that's probably toeing the line, but not wholly unacceptable.
And yet who is currently upvoted to +5 and who is downvoted to -1 currently on said posts? And who is a student who might have more knowledge about extracurriculars than you?
The mgolemming aspect of mgoblog is the biggest weakness of the current moderating system.
Honestly wouldn't surprise me at all if it's you who is my serial negger. Having multiple accounts upvoting yourself and downvoting others.
Quite ironic how I get negged in things such as game threads where I'm giving updates and normal people on here find no need to neg.
You seem like "that guy".
Now go on. Run along and sic your 3 accounts on me whilst you upvote yourself.
Sorry, man, but this is my only account (IP access record would confirm this). I only downvote people when they write something I disagree with (and if they come up with a valid argument, I even upvote them (e.g. Owl)) -- and in general I'd guess that 90% of my moderation is positive, not downvotes.
Hate to tell it to you, but you accumulate the downvotes because of your trip to Bolivia and your bigotry. Once the old system comes back, you'll see that you most likely are getting dozens of downvotes -- the current system just places a floor at -1, so you have no idea how many (or how little) downvotes you're getting.
But who cares about mgopoints?
I guess if we're going off tweets, I'm a bigot.........what's gonna happen now? Am I gonna be banned? I did nothing on this site to warrant one.
You have an obsession with following me around and posting tweets of mine like the fanboy that you are. I pray for you and have a nice day sir!
I did nothing on this site to warrant one.
Weren't you sent to Bolivia because you made some ignorant statements connecting Arizona, immigrants, etc.? That's the definition of bigotry, and that's why you couldn't post threads for a while. FYI I haven't downvoted any of your posts in this series of responses, scout's honor.
I'll save you the time just in case you don't have it bookmarked- http://mgoblog.com/mgoboard/delany-conference-bowl-lineup-become-more-national
"Fiesta/BW3 Bowl is still in AZ so you have a risk of that with the illegal trash living in AZ."
Bolivia time was served back in January. Not a ban. Again, get over it.
I've never seen someone so obsessed with something someone posted on the internet.
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NEGS TO BOTH OF YOU
now someone neg me for breaking The Frist Roole
I don't think I've ever seen someone so concerned with imaginary numbers as much as you are. Who gives a fuck if you're downvoted or not? Does it take away from your ability to post? No. Does it hurt you in any way? No. Does it prevent people from seeing your opinions? No. Does it take away some of the all important MGoPoints? No.
You're just bitching and whining about an imaginary number
To steal a line from OMG Shirtless, "If I could, I would neg myself every post because it's funny that some people take it seriously."
And seriously? Accusing someone of having 3 accounts, just to neg you? Does it get any more MGoEgotistical than that?
It can and it will get more MGoEgotistical.
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Hey Devotee get the hell out of here - I'm supposed to be the one with the yellow posts.
As some who totally fights with his spouse, I agree. And this year's hockey season was pretty pathetic. Why is it that Michigan fans are allowed to be jubilant when our teams do well, but we aren't true fans if we're upset when they don't?
Wanna know why I'm not pissed about the season? I honestly stopped watching it less than halfway through. So maybe I'm a fair-weather M hockey fan.
To keep the analogy alive, Brian is at least still fighting with his spouse. I've stopped fighting because I stopped caring, which is far worse.
#teammgoblog
If you call a team that managed to go 8-1-1 in its last 10 and almost pull off another improbable run a failure, we have no words for you.
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I understand CoY's stance. They're the student section. They support the team blindly, as they should. As a former serious Maize Rage member, I do the same for basketball.
But it doesn't mean the season wasn't a failure. It was.
Just like I can admit the 2010 basketball season was a failure while still supporting the players, CoY should be able to just support the players and accept that there will be (rightfully) criticism of the season.
It was the way Brian was putting them down like that. Like they didn't nearly just pull another 2010.
If they won, the post on the front page would be muppets AND OH LAWD JESUS STEVE RACINE IS THE SECOND COMING OF SHAWN HUNWICK!!!!!1!
But to dog them for going on a playoff run and almost doing the impossible, again. Doesn't sit well with me. But what does my opinion mean? I'm just some bloke who posts comments on a board.
Close only counts in horseshoes, hand grenades and nuclear weapons.
Winning would have been great. Losing means no NCAA Tournament, incredible streak ended.
If Hoke can call an 11-2 season a failure due to no Big Ten Championship, then this hockey season was certainly a failure. If anything, I would object to Brian's saying "The scarlet F is branded in this team." I would only say the season was a failure, not the team.
March 25th, 2013 at 10:54 PM ^
And Bocce Ball, sir.
March 26th, 2013 at 12:57 PM ^
And petanque
Putting them down like what? Also, I think there's a difference between 2010's mediocre (by UM standards) talent making a run and 2012-13's team full of future NHL'ers giving away half the season.
A: I don't think Brian was overtly negative, or at least not personally demeaning.
B: I don't think we should form opinions based on what we think Brian would have posted had we somehow pulled a miracle upset of Notre Dame.
Again, it's the worst team in a very, very long time. That's by objective standards. Thanks for the kids that worked their asses off and especially thanks to the seniors. However, they'll be the first to tell you that their season was shit.
Except the Children of Yost are not the student section.
The Children of Yost like to think they're the student section. Some of them may even be students.
But the more and more they try to subjectively declare who is and isn't a true fan, the more and more they use their Twitter feed to declare beefs with individuals and groups within their own fanbase, the more and more I begin to think the CoY don't speak for anybody but the shadowy people with the password.
And, honestly, given the fact many of their staunchest defenders around here have spent at least one stint in Bolivia, I'm inclined to appreciate Brian's contributions to his own blog and his decade and a half of institutional memory around this program more than their constant childish backbiting and negativity.