Spring Roster Overanalysis 2013
I can't believe no entry in this series has previously embedded this youtube video. I endeavor to correct this oversight now:
In this spirit, we proceed.
THING: Boy, is it depressing to delete Denard Robinson from your spreadsheet here. On the other hand, not deleting Taylor Lewan.
QUARTERBACK | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
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Player | 2009 | 2010 | 2011 | 2012 | Spring 2013 | 09 to 10 | 10 to 11 | 11 to 12 | 12 to 13 | ||||||||||||||||||||
Devin Gardner | -- | 210 | 205 | 206 | 210 | -- | -5 | 1 | 4 | ||||||||||||||||||||
Russell Bellomy | -- | -- | 189 | 201 | 213 | -- | -- | 12 | 12 | ||||||||||||||||||||
Running Back | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
Player | 2009 | 2010 | 2011 | 2012 | Spring 2013 | 09 to 10 | 10 to 11 | 11 to 12 | 12 to 13 | ||||||||||||||||||||
Fitzgerald Toussaint | 185 | 200 | 195 | 203 | 200 | 15 | -5 | 8 | -3 | ||||||||||||||||||||
Thomas Rawls | -- | -- | 219 | 217 | 217 | -- | -- | -2 | 0 | ||||||||||||||||||||
Justice Hayes | -- | -- | 176 | 183 | 190 | -- | -- | 7 | 7 | ||||||||||||||||||||
Dennis Norfleet | -- | -- | -- | 170 | 168 | -- | -- | -- | -2 | ||||||||||||||||||||
Drake Johnson | -- | -- | -- | 203 | 212 | -- | -- | -- | 9 | ||||||||||||||||||||
Sione Houma | -- | -- | -- | 221 | 229 | -- | -- | -- | 8 | ||||||||||||||||||||
WIDE RECEIVER | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
Player | 2009 | 2010 | 2011 | 2012 | Spring 2013 | 09 to 10 | 10 to 11 | 11 to 12 | 12 to 13 | ||||||||||||||||||||
Jeremy Gallon | 165 | 180 | 185 | 186 | 187 | 15 | 5 | 1 | 1 | ||||||||||||||||||||
Drew Dileo | -- | 172 | 172 | 180 | 177 | -- | 0 | 8 | -3 | ||||||||||||||||||||
Amarah Darboh | -- | -- | -- | 218 | 213 | -- | -- | -- | -5 | ||||||||||||||||||||
Jehu Chesson | -- | -- | -- | 183 | 193 | -- | -- | -- | 10 | ||||||||||||||||||||
TIGHT END | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
Player | 2009 | 2010 | 2011 | 2012 | Spring 2013 | 09 to 10 | 10 to 11 | 11 to 12 | 12 to 13 | ||||||||||||||||||||
Jordan Paskortz | -- | -- | 246 | ? | 251 | -- | -- | ? | 5 | ||||||||||||||||||||
AJ Williams | -- | -- | -- | 282 | 265 | -- | -- | -- | -17 | ||||||||||||||||||||
Devin Funchess | -- | -- | -- | 225 | 228 | -- | -- | -- | 3 | ||||||||||||||||||||
Jake Butt | -- | -- | -- | -- | 231 | -- | -- | -- | 0 | ||||||||||||||||||||
OFFENSIVE LINE | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
Player | 2009 | 2010 | 2011 | 2012 | Spring 2013 | 09 to 10 | 10 to 11 | 11 to 12 | 12 to 13 | ||||||||||||||||||||
Michael Schofield | 268 | 293 | 299 | 302 | 303 | 25 | 6 | 3 | 1 | ||||||||||||||||||||
Taylor Lewan | 268 | 294 | 302 | 308 | 308 | 26 | 8 | 6 | 0 | ||||||||||||||||||||
Chris Bryant | -- | -- | 341 | 320 | 325 | -- | -- | -21 | 5 | ||||||||||||||||||||
Jack Miller | -- | -- | 263 | 287 | 291 | -- | -- | 24 | 4 | ||||||||||||||||||||
Blake Bars | -- | -- | -- | 282 | 284 | -- | -- | -- | 2 | ||||||||||||||||||||
Ben Braden | -- | -- | -- | 299 | 314 | -- | -- | -- | 15 | ||||||||||||||||||||
Kyle Kalis | -- | -- | -- | 292 | 297 | -- | -- | -- | 5 | ||||||||||||||||||||
Erik Magnuson | -- | -- | -- | 290 | 286 | -- | -- | -- | -4 | ||||||||||||||||||||
Kyle Bosch | -- | -- | -- | -- | 307 | -- | -- | -- | -- | ||||||||||||||||||||
Logan Tuley-Tillman | -- | -- | -- | -- | 285 | -- | -- | -- | -- | ||||||||||||||||||||
DEFENSIVE LINE | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
Player | 2009 | 2010 | 2011 | 2012 | Spring 2013 | 09 to 10 | 10 to 11 | 11 to 12 | 12 to 13 | ||||||||||||||||||||
Quinton Washington | 325 | 315 | 302 | 299 | 305 | -10 | -13 | -3 | 6 | ||||||||||||||||||||
Jibreel Black | -- | 265 | 260 | 276 | 276 | N/A | -5 | 16 | 0 | ||||||||||||||||||||
Richard Ash | -- | 320 | 301 | 301 | 316 | N/A | -19 | 0 | 15 | ||||||||||||||||||||
Frank Clark | -- | -- | 228 | 260 | 277 | -- | -- | 32 | 17 | ||||||||||||||||||||
Keith Heitzman | -- | -- | 251 | ? | 277 | -- | -- | ? | 26 | ||||||||||||||||||||
Brennen Beyer | -- | -- | 225 | 252 | 254 | -- | -- | 27 | 2 | ||||||||||||||||||||
Matt Godin | -- | -- | -- | 270 | 277 | -- | -- | -- | 7 | ||||||||||||||||||||
Willie Henry | -- | -- | -- | 302 | 306 | -- | -- | -- | 4 | ||||||||||||||||||||
Ondre Pipkins | -- | -- | -- | 337 | 308 | -- | -- | -- | -29 | ||||||||||||||||||||
Tom Strobel | -- | -- | -- | 250 | 262 | -- | -- | -- | 12 | ||||||||||||||||||||
Chris Wormley | -- | -- | -- | 268 | 290 | -- | -- | -- | 22 | ||||||||||||||||||||
Mario Ojemudia | -- | -- | -- | 223 | 244 | -- | -- | -- | 21 | ||||||||||||||||||||
Taco Charlton | -- | -- | -- | -- | 265 | -- | -- | -- | N/A | ||||||||||||||||||||
LINEBACKER | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
Player | 2009 | 2010 | 2011 | 2012 | Spring 2013 | 09 to 10 | 10 to 11 | 11 to 12 | 12 to 13 | ||||||||||||||||||||
Cameron Gordon | 208 | 207 | 222 | 235 | 233 | -1 | 15 | 13 | -2 | ||||||||||||||||||||
Mike Jones | 203 | 208 | 224 | ? | 223 | 5 | 16 | ? | -1 | ||||||||||||||||||||
Jake Ryan | -- | 225 | 230 | 242 | 241 | N/A | 5 | 12 | -1 | ||||||||||||||||||||
Antonio Poole | -- | -- | 212 | ? | 218 | -- | -- | ? | 6 | ||||||||||||||||||||
Desmond Morgan | -- | -- | 220 | 230 | 227 | -- | -- | 10 | -3 | ||||||||||||||||||||
Royce Jenkins-Stone | -- | -- | -- | 206 | 215 | -- | -- | -- | 9 | ||||||||||||||||||||
James Ross | -- | -- | -- | 225 | 223 | -- | -- | -- | -2 | ||||||||||||||||||||
Kaleb Ringer | -- | -- | -- | 225 | 236 | -- | -- | -- | 11 | ||||||||||||||||||||
Joe Bolden | -- | -- | -- | 230 | 222 | -- | -- | -- | -8 | ||||||||||||||||||||
CORNERBACK | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
Player | 2009 | 2010 | 2011 | 2012 | Spring 2013 | 09 to 10 | 10 to 11 | 11 to 12 | 12 to 13 | ||||||||||||||||||||
Courtney Avery | -- | 174 | 173 | 173 | 174 | -- | -1 | 0 | 1 | ||||||||||||||||||||
Raymon Taylor | -- | -- | 169 | 183 | 186 | -- | -- | 14 | 3 | ||||||||||||||||||||
Delonte Hollowell | -- | -- | 164 | 177 | 175 | -- | -- | 13 | -2 | ||||||||||||||||||||
Blake Countess | -- | -- | 176 | 182 | 181 | -- | -- | 6 | -1 | ||||||||||||||||||||
Terry Richardson | -- | -- | -- | 154 | 162 | -- | -- | -- | 8 | ||||||||||||||||||||
Ross Douglas | -- | -- | -- | -- | 176 | -- | -- | -- | 0 | ||||||||||||||||||||
SAFETY | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
Player | 2009 | 2010 | 2011 | 2012 | Spring 2013 | 09 to 10 | 10 to 11 | 11 to 12 | 12 to 13 | ||||||||||||||||||||
Josh Furman | -- | 208 | 208 | 204 | 197 | -- | 0 | -4 | -7 | ||||||||||||||||||||
Marvin Robinson | -- | 203 | 200 | 201 | 202 | -- | -3 | 1 | 1 | ||||||||||||||||||||
Thomas Gordon | 205 | 205 | 208 | 209 | 208 | 0 | 3 | 1 | -1 | ||||||||||||||||||||
Jarrod Wilson | -- | -- | -- | 190 | 196 | -- | -- | -- | 6 | ||||||||||||||||||||
Jeremy Clark | -- | -- | -- | 191 | 201 | -- | -- | -- | 10 | ||||||||||||||||||||
Allen Gant | -- | -- | -- | 196 | 203 | -- | -- | -- | 7 | ||||||||||||||||||||
Dymonte Thomas | -- | -- | -- | -- | 187 | -- | -- | -- | 0 |
ITEMS OF INTEREST
- Remember, all weight gain or loss is good.
- Ondre Pipkins dumped 29 pounds over the course of a few months, which should bode well for his playing time. Competing at the three-tech? Yeah, possible.
- Elsewhere on the defensive line it's mostly BEEFCAKE, with Chris Wormley up to a hello-three-tech 290, Frank Clark up to 277, Mario Ojemudia up to 244, and Keith Heitzman scaling up to 277 after not having a spring weight last year.
- Guys who did not move significantly are Quinton Washington (after three years of dropping, a few added pounds at 300 are probably good), Jibreel Black (probably not so good if he is a 276-pound DT), and Brennen Beyer (possibly good or bad or something). Surely there will be better options than a 276-pound three tech; I bet Black moves to SDE to compete with Heitzman. Meanwhile, Clark is now listed at exactly the same weight as those guys, blowing past classmate and WDE competitor Beyer. Most have pegged that as a platoon in which Beyer executes the run defense and Clark gets to the QB; could Clark take over the role full-time? He'll have to be a lot more responsible.
- If Beyer can't continue adding weight a move back to SAM might make sense. This has been your Brian Wonders About Moving Someone To SAM moment.
- Taco Charlton entering at 265 means he has a shot to blow past everyone at WDE as well. Likely? No, but despite the apparent depth at that position don't put him in the autoredshirt category.
- The tight ends are not exactly hulking up. It makes sense that AJ Williams would shed some weight as he transitions back from offensive line to TE, and 265 is a reasonable weight for an in-line blocking TE. Devin Funchess adding three pounds is not ideal unless he's really just a wide receiver with a little blocking to do. Jake Butt showing up at 231 isn't a huge surprise—he weighed in at exactly that number for the Army game—but may indicate he, too, is not going to be much use as a blocker in year one. Redshirt? Probably not since there are no other scholarship TEs on the roster and Kwiatkowski graduated.
- Jehu Chesson and Amarah Darboh are meeting in the middle. For non-lineman bodies ten pounds is a relatively big change. See also beanpole safety Jeremy Clark.
- Dennis Norfleet losing two pounds isn't a huge surprise since guys that size usually stay exactly that size.
- Relatively flat OL numbers are generally good news since they indicate radical overhauls are not necessary for player X to see the field. See Lewan and Schofield above. Chris Bryant is a clear exception since 325 is tough to play at and his injury makes it difficult for him to do a lot of the things Michigan would like him to. Meanwhile, size concerns about Jack Miller are probably minor. 291 is well within plausible.
- I'd be surprised if Blake Bars can overtake Ben Braden, who is 30 pounds heavier. Magnuson and Bars going nowhere in year one is a slight concern.
- Chattering about Kyle Bosch being ready to play this fall is reinforced by his 307 pounds. Logan Tuley-Tillman at 285 brings this whole exercise into question since that almost has to be fiction. The other option is that LTT is going to be a rich man when he shares his diet secrets. If he really is 285, that would be very good news since his star rose and fell based on his weight when he was a recruit. He seemed like a boom or bust type because of that. I'll ask Ace, who saw him in person with some frequency, to evaluate the plausibility of that weight after the spring game.
- James Ross, man, you're supposed to get bigger. Also you, Joe Bolden. All linebackers not named Ringer have been on a diet.
Chris Wormley goes to the dining hall pretty regularly. I have no idea how the dude bulks up so fast. He usually has a salad on one plate, and on the other it is filled with healthy protein like chicken breast, eggs, and fish. He drinks water (I think).
The LTT weight loss is definitely true. He looks a lot better.
Kyle Bosch looks like he plays in the NFL. He also hangs out with Taylor Lewan quite frequently, which is cool.
DENNIS NORFLEET is hilarious to see on his way to class.
"March 18th..2013. Kyle Bosch has selected a ham sandwich from the south quad dining hall today. Veerrrry interesting. Ham is definitely good for Guards...On the other hand, Chris Wormley has selected Cocoa Puffs, not what I would expect from a 3-Tech, but I've seen stranger. End transmission"
so maybe I'm missing something, but that quote is not from me.
It's a picture of a guy sitting at a table in a restaurant talking into a tape/voice recorder...like a detective...ok the jokes dead
March 18th, 2013 at 10:20 PM ^
got your point w/o the photo now, and made me laugh. Upvoted!
Magnus noted earlier today that the group working together in the OL first group did not include Kalis. (IIRC, Lewan, Braden, Miller, Burzynski, & Schofield.) Is this just because Braden and Burzynski are so much better than Kalis? Or is there something else I'm missing?
I imagine Braden is ahead of Kalis, and they probably want to give Burzynski (the older guy) the first crack at the job.
Hoke always emphasizes experience, technique and seniority. He puts Leadership on all Seniors, and stresses that a senior's last season is special, and they take priority. So having the upper classman get a chance first fits in. Of course Hoke also demonstrates that when a starter isn't getting the job done, it's time to send in the next guy.
It also seems like the spring practices have a lot more equal time assessment, and an emphasis of capturing things on film. From there it's on each player to review their film and work on things through the summer until fall camp begins. So Spring is a time for learning and setting benchmarks, not for final starting lineup decisions.
Overall I'm more interested to hear about the players recovering from injuries and gauging their recovery progress than who's practicing with the ones and twos.
March 18th, 2013 at 10:22 PM ^
I wouldn't put much stock into much at this point. It's still the first week of spring practice...
I have a love/hate relationship with all these weights. Without a supplemental note of the body fat percentages that accompany these weights, both last year and this year, and the goals for the player, it makes this an exercise in only bringing up more questions than answers. For example if a DT is 340 at 28% body fat and gets down to 310 at 22% body fat because the coahces want him faster and to improve his endurance that makes sense. If we just seem him losing it only makes me wonder why, is he losing muscle, are we too small at this position now? And, if a linebacker was 230 last year at 14% BF and is now 223 at 12% BF because the coaches want him faster that makes sense too. But, at the same time some may say whoa our MIKE is too small! So, although I'm very interested in these numbers they only bring me more questions like why is this linebacker getting smaller when I want to be more like 245 pounds. I appreciate the information, but hate the questions it brings about.
I saw LTT at South Quad last Friday- he looked skinny with no belly fat to mention. 285 might not be far off.
#1 It's Paskorz not Paskortz...I didn't see any mention of that.
#2a I like the Clark weight gain...I think you put him at SDE and allow him to get some pass rush from that position. Move Black to SDE and let him be the run stopper along with Heitzman. That's a nice 3-headed monster.
#2b THHHHEEEEEEENNNN....You have Ojemudia at WDE as your pass rusher and Beyer as your run stopping WDE. No need to move him to SAM, he's not quick enough. Toss in Charlton to get Mario's freshman minutes and now you have a 3-headed monster at WDE as well!
#3 LTT was a SLOPPY 330+ ...I doubt he's 285, but it wouldn't shock me (assuming he working and running hard) that he lost significant weight. He's the kind of kid that I'd put on the Barwis Method and break down and build back up...a sure redshirt type. He could be 100x better this time next year than he is now and never play a down next season. And that's not saying he's bad now, it's just saying he'll have the body to go along with the potential.
Any news on his health or performance? I know he was one of the lesser ranked linebackers coming in, but he seems to be decently sized and might have a good shot at cracking the two deep at LB.
March 18th, 2013 at 10:25 PM ^
March 19th, 2013 at 10:24 AM ^
I don't know the posts you're referecning. But, in general if you go by the definition of flaimbait it's that your message had an intent to anger or offend. I think many posts get listed as flaimbait simply because members don't like the opinion even if that opinion had no intention to offend or anger. If your post goes against the general accepted opinion on a topic it is in danger of being labeled flaimbait by some. I don't think that's the right thing to do, but negging is basically a way of disagreeing with you and flaimbait is one option to neg a post...that's all. Don't take it personally. Like any other board some idealogies are more accepted than others. It doesn't mean people still won't read your post and like it even if the majority doesn't. Post away my friend, post away (as long as it's constructive or at least funny).
But it's not really a big deal; if someone is going to downvote you they have to pick an adjective off the list and it seems that's usually the favorite. I can't imagine someone having even the most elementary grasp on board rules accidentally posting flamebait, so if you don't intend it I would assume it isn't flamebait (neither of your above posts were, far from it).
March 19th, 2013 at 10:05 AM ^
FWIW I saw Logan Tuley-Tilman walking down State St. about a week ago and 285 is definately believable. Took me a second to recognize him.
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