rather boil themselves in oil than play those teams in anything.
I know that calling this a fact is a rhetorical device, but I'm not sure the opposition to Rutgers and Maryland is as universal accross the fanbase as you think. I wouldn't suggest that all east coast big ten alum like it, but my very unscientific survey says alot of DC alum do like it. I wouldn't be shocked to know that some Michigan lacrosse supporters like it too.
Actually downvoting a response purely because you disagree seems incredibly lazy (particularly on a board that prides itself on good analytics). Seems like it would be much more constructive (and in the spirit of the board) to explain why you disagree.
Now I guess we'll all be trying to figure out tbe inefficiencies creatwd by your advice in the Mgoblog pool..
Do I compensate for tbe home team/conference bias by picking Big ten teams to do worse than I thought or maybe Everyone else will do that so I need to favor the big ten teams to take advantage of everone overcompensating by not picking them?
I posted twice in this thread - once to suggest that we'd likely try other combinations at offense line that actually included Kalis, another to suggest that it would be useful to include weights of waljons who are actually in the discussion for playing time. Neither of those seem to be flames to me.
Is there something in either the content or style of those posts that doesn't meet general board guidelines? If those are considered flamebait, it seems that just about anything I would post (and frankly much of the stuff others post - is flamebait).
Lewan staying for his senior year, Gardner getting his red-shirt, our offensive line haul the last two years, our linebacking corp, Green coming to A2 - I wouldn't want to be too critical of the football gods.
I'm a pretty ardent environmentalist - which is often being associatwd with being green. I'm also quite proud of my irish heritage - also often associated with the color green.
Neither of those lessens the fact that I bleed blue and am very proud of my Michigan degree and being part of a Uniersity that has accomplished and continues to accomplish so much on the athletic field and across a whole range of academic and research areas that make people's lives and the world a better place.
But frankly, bleeding blue and having a strong disdain for a number of collegiate sports teams including Notre Dame, Michigan State and Ohio State doesn't lessen my respect for people who have managed to overcome a poor choice about where to go as a college student when they were 17 or 18 and accomplish big things worthy of respect.
I think it does in fact suggest that Braden is significantly ahead of Magnusun, because if Magnuson was clearly one of the top four non-center candidates, I think you'd at least be be considering Lewan and Magnuson at tackle and Scofield and Kalis at guard.
With you about your football knowledge. You were the one who touted your 2012 projections, not me.
I'd be pretty shocked if my picks are right too. I think they'll be a real battle for the center position with a 40 percent chance of Miller, a 40 percent chance of Burzynski and a 20% chance of someone else. At the other spot, it's more like 30 percent chance of Braden at guard, a 30 percent chance of Bryant at guard, a 30 percent chance of Magnuson at tackle and a 10 percent chance of someone else. The main point of my picks is I'm not sold on the seemingly conventional picks of Miller and Bryant.
I agree there are a number of possible combinations that make guesses like this almost certainly wrong. That having been said, would you have picked Mealer as our center at this time last year?
Instead of saying I'm wrong, why not say who you think it will be. I'm hoping for something bolder than: tackles : Lewan and Schofield, guards: Kalis and Bryant and center: Miller.
I think there could be some surprises on the offensive line. Similar to Mealer at center this year, I think we could be see a starting five (in terms of personel and/or position) that we aren't expecting.
In terms of sure things, clearly, Lewan is our left tackle. Schofield starting is also a sure thing, but it doesn't neccesarily have to be at right tackle.
I think we'd all agree that the next surest thing is Kalis at guard.
That leaves battles at center and at a non-center slot (assuming Schofield moves inside if the other winner is at tackle).
At center the likely contenders are: Miller (the presumed starter), Burzynski (the only one with any non-garbage playing time - albeit at guard), Kugler ( presumed to be the most talented, but a true freshman and recovering from an injury), Bars (seeminly the most likely, non true freshman, non walk-on alternative to Miller) and Glasgow (another walkon with some buzz, but no love as a recruit). Bars seems like a long shot as it appears that he wasn't practicing there during bowl practice and got no mention from Funk in his recent comments on the topic.
Miller seems the popular choice, but I've already gone out on a limb and suggested that I think the fact that Burzynski earning non-garbage playing time counts for something. So, while there is an opportunity for the red-shirt freshman Bars, I'm gonna stay out on my limb and say Burzynski is the one to make an impact here.
At the other spot, the leaders seem to be Bryant at guard and Magnuson at tackle. Braden could fill either spot and there are a number of longer shots at tackle (Bosch, Glasgow, Bars and Burzynski). Other true freshman or walkons could surprise, but I think this covers the likely contenders.
I really like the idea of Magnuson here. If it is true that Braden is getting a look here, it sounds like Magnuson may be looking string as at least the third best tackle. Having him as a starter means more proven depth this year at tackle and an experienced blindside tackle for next year.
While Bryant got some buzz before his injury, I think that should be tempered by two things. First, he's coming back from an injury. Second, turns out the guys he was competing with were not that good. I'm betting that Magnuson at tackle is better than Bryant at guard (and is the best of all the options to fill the spot.
So, to actually get to replying to the post, I think both Kalis and Magnuson are going to make an impact on the line. I'm also putting in my early bet for a starting line of: tackles - Lewan and Magnuson, guards - Schofield and Kalis and center - Burzynski
Do we really need to wait for Websters or someone else to tell us it's ok? This doesn't seem to be a case like its and it's where there is a clear set of rules.
So that means he has an extra spring practice and depending on when Miller got to camp, an extra 3 or 4 months of conditioning. That coupled with being 10 months older suggests why he might be ahead in year one and two, but if Miller is really better, he should win out. Guess we'll have to wait to find out.
Frankly I was just throwing out there that I don't see why people are basically giving the center posittion to Miller and completely discounting Burzynski, since the only real evidence in favor of Miller is his 3 stars. While they both appear to have entered the program at the same time (I can find no evidence that Burzynski was on the roster in 2010 even though he is listed as a redsirt sophomore in the roster).
I wouldn't have said anything else if severall people hadn't jumped all over my post and at least in my opinion seemed to suggest my opinion was completely stupid.
As you've noted, Burzynski has played center before and Funk has indicated he is getting another shot this spring. Personally I think the fact that the coaches have expressed some confidence in his ability by giving him meaningful snaps (albeit at guard rather than center) is in fact a relevant data point.
Both of them have been on the team for two years. While Burzynski is listed as a redshirt sophomore, he is also only credited with two seasons on the team.
I get that you all think I'm an idiot for this opinion. We can see in September
The actual coach of the offensive line has said the best five will play. He can teach someone to snap. He doesn't even need to Burzynski since he's also been practicing at center.
I am infering from that philosophy that the sixth guy to come in would therefore have been yhe sixth best offensive lineman on the team iregardless of position. That would mean last year, Burzynski was better than Miller.
It is quite possible that Miller could improve more than Burzynski. I am just expressing my opinion that Burzynski will be center. I could be wrong. We'll know in September
Centers block, don't they? If Miller was a better blocker, I expect he'd have been in when they needed a player. Funk has explicitly said, the best five will play, even if it means teaching one of them to snap.
Mealer was supposed to be a gaurd, but he played center. And Burzynski has been practicing at center. You are perfectly free to your opinion, but I don't think basing my opinion on a battle between Burzynski and Miller is totally pointless.
With regards to Burzynski being older, according to the rosters on Mgoblue, he has only been on the roster for two years, even though he'll be a redshirt junior next season, so it seems he in fact has the same amount of time and experience in the program.
Is that in space, Hayes can be dangerous. Like many others have suggested, not an every down back, but someone who can still fulfill an important role.
Even if you're getting a good meal at training table, balancing football and claases probably means these guys are eating breakfast, lunch and snacks on the run a great deal. Unless you are incredibly disciplined making sure some bad stuff doesn't slip into your diet. I imagine in the atmosphere Demens is now in that is all taken care of for him. He probably doen't have to shop for or prepare his own healthy food and there are probably alot less opportunities to find unhealthy stuff
It seems like there are three candidates for center at the moment - Miller, Glasgow and Burzynski. As causual fans, we have very limited info on which to evaluate any of them.
On Miller
- 3 star
- practice buzz is that he has a mean streak
- some practice buzz sowing concern he is not ready
- behind Burzynski last year as first lineman off the bench
On Burzynki
- walk on
- first guy off the bench last year
Glasgow
- walk on
- some positive practice buzz
For me, the most indicative piece of information is that when it counted - Burzynski played. For this reason, he's the one I am expecting to win the battle.
Inability to identify synonyms is hardly a scathing personal attack (unless you are an English teacher or an editor at Roget's). Plus, the critic was actually backed up by a factual example.
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It made my kids want to read Robert Frost
rather boil themselves in oil than play those teams in anything.
I know that calling this a fact is a rhetorical device, but I'm not sure the opposition to Rutgers and Maryland is as universal accross the fanbase as you think. I wouldn't suggest that all east coast big ten alum like it, but my very unscientific survey says alot of DC alum do like it. I wouldn't be shocked to know that some Michigan lacrosse supporters like it too.
Actually downvoting a response purely because you disagree seems incredibly lazy (particularly on a board that prides itself on good analytics). Seems like it would be much more constructive (and in the spirit of the board) to explain why you disagree.
Now I guess we'll all be trying to figure out tbe inefficiencies creatwd by your advice in the Mgoblog pool..
Do I compensate for tbe home team/conference bias by picking Big ten teams to do worse than I thought or maybe Everyone else will do that so I need to favor the big ten teams to take advantage of everone overcompensating by not picking them?
I posted twice in this thread - once to suggest that we'd likely try other combinations at offense line that actually included Kalis, another to suggest that it would be useful to include weights of waljons who are actually in the discussion for playing time. Neither of those seem to be flames to me.
Is there something in either the content or style of those posts that doesn't meet general board guidelines? If those are considered flamebait, it seems that just about anything I would post (and frankly much of the stuff others post - is flamebait).
At a minimum,: Kerridge, Reynolds, Glasgow and Burzynski have a shot at the two deep and it wouldn't be shocking to see two of them actually start
Who knows what we'll see on film, but probably
Lewan, Braden, Burzynskii, Kallis, Schofield
Lewan, Braden,Glasgow, Kalis Schofield
Maybe Burzynski instead of Braden
Maybe Schofield inside and Magnuson outside?
Thats what I get for posting on the metro. If I could downvote myself I would
Lewan staying for his senior year, Gardner getting his red-shirt, our offensive line haul the last two years, our linebacking corp, Green coming to A2 - I wouldn't want to be too critical of the football gods.
It's great to be a Wolverine
Instead of 64 teams playing on schooldays - only 32 would
I'm a pretty ardent environmentalist - which is often being associatwd with being green. I'm also quite proud of my irish heritage - also often associated with the color green.
Neither of those lessens the fact that I bleed blue and am very proud of my Michigan degree and being part of a Uniersity that has accomplished and continues to accomplish so much on the athletic field and across a whole range of academic and research areas that make people's lives and the world a better place.
But frankly, bleeding blue and having a strong disdain for a number of collegiate sports teams including Notre Dame, Michigan State and Ohio State doesn't lessen my respect for people who have managed to overcome a poor choice about where to go as a college student when they were 17 or 18 and accomplish big things worthy of respect.
I think it does in fact suggest that Braden is significantly ahead of Magnusun, because if Magnuson was clearly one of the top four non-center candidates, I think you'd at least be be considering Lewan and Magnuson at tackle and Scofield and Kalis at guard.
I've enjoyed everything this team has accomplished so far and am looking forward to seeing what else they can accomplish
With you about your football knowledge. You were the one who touted your 2012 projections, not me.
I'd be pretty shocked if my picks are right too. I think they'll be a real battle for the center position with a 40 percent chance of Miller, a 40 percent chance of Burzynski and a 20% chance of someone else. At the other spot, it's more like 30 percent chance of Braden at guard, a 30 percent chance of Bryant at guard, a 30 percent chance of Magnuson at tackle and a 10 percent chance of someone else. The main point of my picks is I'm not sold on the seemingly conventional picks of Miller and Bryant.
Who'd play guard opposite Omareh and who'd play center and you got both wrong, I'm not that impressed
I agree there are a number of possible combinations that make guesses like this almost certainly wrong. That having been said, would you have picked Mealer as our center at this time last year?
Instead of saying I'm wrong, why not say who you think it will be. I'm hoping for something bolder than: tackles : Lewan and Schofield, guards: Kalis and Bryant and center: Miller.
I think there could be some surprises on the offensive line. Similar to Mealer at center this year, I think we could be see a starting five (in terms of personel and/or position) that we aren't expecting.
In terms of sure things, clearly, Lewan is our left tackle. Schofield starting is also a sure thing, but it doesn't neccesarily have to be at right tackle.
I think we'd all agree that the next surest thing is Kalis at guard.
That leaves battles at center and at a non-center slot (assuming Schofield moves inside if the other winner is at tackle).
At center the likely contenders are: Miller (the presumed starter), Burzynski (the only one with any non-garbage playing time - albeit at guard), Kugler ( presumed to be the most talented, but a true freshman and recovering from an injury), Bars (seeminly the most likely, non true freshman, non walk-on alternative to Miller) and Glasgow (another walkon with some buzz, but no love as a recruit). Bars seems like a long shot as it appears that he wasn't practicing there during bowl practice and got no mention from Funk in his recent comments on the topic.
Miller seems the popular choice, but I've already gone out on a limb and suggested that I think the fact that Burzynski earning non-garbage playing time counts for something. So, while there is an opportunity for the red-shirt freshman Bars, I'm gonna stay out on my limb and say Burzynski is the one to make an impact here.
At the other spot, the leaders seem to be Bryant at guard and Magnuson at tackle. Braden could fill either spot and there are a number of longer shots at tackle (Bosch, Glasgow, Bars and Burzynski). Other true freshman or walkons could surprise, but I think this covers the likely contenders.
I really like the idea of Magnuson here. If it is true that Braden is getting a look here, it sounds like Magnuson may be looking string as at least the third best tackle. Having him as a starter means more proven depth this year at tackle and an experienced blindside tackle for next year.
While Bryant got some buzz before his injury, I think that should be tempered by two things. First, he's coming back from an injury. Second, turns out the guys he was competing with were not that good. I'm betting that Magnuson at tackle is better than Bryant at guard (and is the best of all the options to fill the spot.
So, to actually get to replying to the post, I think both Kalis and Magnuson are going to make an impact on the line. I'm also putting in my early bet for a starting line of: tackles - Lewan and Magnuson, guards - Schofield and Kalis and center - Burzynski
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Do we really need to wait for Websters or someone else to tell us it's ok? This doesn't seem to be a case like its and it's where there is a clear set of rules.
So that means he has an extra spring practice and depending on when Miller got to camp, an extra 3 or 4 months of conditioning. That coupled with being 10 months older suggests why he might be ahead in year one and two, but if Miller is really better, he should win out. Guess we'll have to wait to find out.
Frankly I was just throwing out there that I don't see why people are basically giving the center posittion to Miller and completely discounting Burzynski, since the only real evidence in favor of Miller is his 3 stars. While they both appear to have entered the program at the same time (I can find no evidence that Burzynski was on the roster in 2010 even though he is listed as a redsirt sophomore in the roster).
I wouldn't have said anything else if severall people hadn't jumped all over my post and at least in my opinion seemed to suggest my opinion was completely stupid.
As you've noted, Burzynski has played center before and Funk has indicated he is getting another shot this spring. Personally I think the fact that the coaches have expressed some confidence in his ability by giving him meaningful snaps (albeit at guard rather than center) is in fact a relevant data point.
Miller will be better because he's a three star and Burzynski's only a walk-on?
Both of them have been on the team for two years. While Burzynski is listed as a redshirt sophomore, he is also only credited with two seasons on the team.
I get that you all think I'm an idiot for this opinion. We can see in September
The actual coach of the offensive line has said the best five will play. He can teach someone to snap. He doesn't even need to Burzynski since he's also been practicing at center.
I am infering from that philosophy that the sixth guy to come in would therefore have been yhe sixth best offensive lineman on the team iregardless of position. That would mean last year, Burzynski was better than Miller.
It is quite possible that Miller could improve more than Burzynski. I am just expressing my opinion that Burzynski will be center. I could be wrong. We'll know in September
Centers block, don't they? If Miller was a better blocker, I expect he'd have been in when they needed a player. Funk has explicitly said, the best five will play, even if it means teaching one of them to snap.
Mealer was supposed to be a gaurd, but he played center. And Burzynski has been practicing at center. You are perfectly free to your opinion, but I don't think basing my opinion on a battle between Burzynski and Miller is totally pointless.
With regards to Burzynski being older, according to the rosters on Mgoblue, he has only been on the roster for two years, even though he'll be a redshirt junior next season, so it seems he in fact has the same amount of time and experience in the program.
Is that in space, Hayes can be dangerous. Like many others have suggested, not an every down back, but someone who can still fulfill an important role.
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Even if you're getting a good meal at training table, balancing football and claases probably means these guys are eating breakfast, lunch and snacks on the run a great deal. Unless you are incredibly disciplined making sure some bad stuff doesn't slip into your diet. I imagine in the atmosphere Demens is now in that is all taken care of for him. He probably doen't have to shop for or prepare his own healthy food and there are probably alot less opportunities to find unhealthy stuff
It seems like there are three candidates for center at the moment - Miller, Glasgow and Burzynski. As causual fans, we have very limited info on which to evaluate any of them.
On Miller
- 3 star
- practice buzz is that he has a mean streak
- some practice buzz sowing concern he is not ready
- behind Burzynski last year as first lineman off the bench
On Burzynki
- walk on
- first guy off the bench last year
Glasgow
- walk on
- some positive practice buzz
For me, the most indicative piece of information is that when it counted - Burzynski played. For this reason, he's the one I am expecting to win the battle.
Inability to identify synonyms is hardly a scathing personal attack (unless you are an English teacher or an editor at Roget's). Plus, the critic was actually backed up by a factual example.
ButI suspect that was sarcasm, not flamebait?
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Because I only really care about the guy recruiting today. I wouldn't blame losing Dee Hart on Hoke
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Does OSHA really have so little power they can't demand the tapes? How wasn't this alone a bigger scandal?