Scout has updated their rankings

Submitted by pfholland on June 7th, 2013 at 1:31 PM

Notes on some of the Michigan commits:

Jabrill Peppers is up to #7 overall (from #11) and #2 CB (from #4).

Drake Harris is down 2 spots to #28 overall, one spot away from being a 5 star.

Chase Winovich is now a 4 star (from 3 star) and #17 OLB (from #28).

Ian Bunting is still a 3 star, which seems a little surprising.

Wilton Speight is also still a 3 star.




June 7th, 2013 at 4:05 PM ^

In addition, another change that should be noted is that Brady Palante (grey-shirt) is now 3 stars (instead of "NR" - not rated). 

This adds 40 points (for purposes of the Scout team ranking methodology) and, together with the cumulative effect of all changes on the date hereof, pushes our team ranking up to #2 (behind Texas A&M).


June 7th, 2013 at 1:41 PM ^

When these recruiting sites "update" their rankings and shuffle guys around 5 spots. 

You mean we're getting the #7 player in the country now instead of the #11!?? NICE! 



June 7th, 2013 at 4:40 PM ^

Well, he put up a bunch of crazy track numbers since then, so that could have swayed him. Or maybe one or two of the guys above him put in a less than stellar performance at a camp. Stuff has certainly happened since their last update, so why not adjust the list accordingly?

A lot of camps have happened lately, and a lot of guys have been getting new offers. So Scout has updated their lists to reflect this. I still don't see why people think this is a bad thing.


June 7th, 2013 at 1:49 PM ^

Were there not that many TEs at the Columbus NFTC?  He won MVP and a spot at the Opening.  Maybe these rankings were set before then, or maybe that performance wasn't enough to overcome their other doubts.


June 7th, 2013 at 1:55 PM ^

From what I've read the concerns with Bunting are related to his durability (he was hurt each of the last two years).  I'm still surprised that's enough to keep him from getting a fourth star given his talent.


June 7th, 2013 at 1:55 PM ^

Bunting has never played tight end and is still very skinny. It's not too surprising that he's ranked as a 3-star - he's ranked as a 3-star to Rivals, too.  The two sites that list him as a 4-star are the ones with the shortest track record of doing these rankings.

turd ferguson

June 7th, 2013 at 2:06 PM ^

Also probably rating him as a 4-star:

The coaching staffs at:

  • Michigan
  • Florida State
  • Nebraska
  • Notre Dame
  • Ohio State
  • Oklahoma
  • Oregon
  • USC
  • ... and many others (VA Tech, Wisconsin, Northwestern, etc.)

His offer list suggests that 247 and ESPN might be onto something with this one.


June 7th, 2013 at 2:19 PM ^

Coaching staffs are just as capable of whiffing on kids as recruiting sites. Vladimir Emilien had offers from Ohio State, Stanford, and Tennessee. Anthony Lalota had offers from Florida, Florida State, and Notre Dame. Je'Ron Stokes had offers from Florida, Georgia, Oklahoma, and Penn State. Justin Turner had an offer from Ohio State.

None of them have panned out...


June 7th, 2013 at 2:46 PM ^

Vlad Emilien, in particular, suffered a debilitating injury which he never fully recovered from. He said one of the reasons Michigan got him was the fact that they persisted when other schools were backing away from their offers. But it didn't pan out. Also: insert list of kids with elite offer sheets who have worked out HERE. Longer list, isn't it?


June 8th, 2013 at 7:25 AM ^

Guys with elite offer lists tend to pan out more often than those who don't. Compare the number of 5 stars who end up as all- American to the number of walk-ons who do, and you'll see how unfounded your argument is.

And the fact that someone bombed here at Michigan doesn't necessarily mean that they weren't worth an offer from other elite teams.

turd ferguson

June 7th, 2013 at 2:56 PM ^

Well yes, everyone in the world of projecting football talent from high school to college makes mistakes.  Obviously.  Your original point, though, was that we should probably trust Rivals and Scout (which are relatively low on Bunting) over 247 and ESPN (which are relatively high on Bunting).  My point is that if you're going to do that, you're really trusting Rivals and Scout over 247, ESPN, and the coaches at a whole lot of programs that can be extremely selective with their offers.


June 7th, 2013 at 2:59 PM ^

False. What I'm saying is that if there are four major sites, and 50% of them already rank him as a 3-star, it should not be a "surprise" that he's still ranked as a 3-star, especially when the two sites that rank him as a 3-star have a longer/better track record.