Scout has updated their rankings
Notes on some of the Michigan commits:
Jabrill Peppers is up to #7 overall (from #11) and #2 CB (from #4).
Drake Harris is down 2 spots to #28 overall, one spot away from being a 5 star.
Chase Winovich is now a 4 star (from 3 star) and #17 OLB (from #28).
Ian Bunting is still a 3 star, which seems a little surprising.
Wilton Speight is also still a 3 star.
Anyone know how quickly 24/7 will rerelease their aggregate?
In addition, another change that should be noted is that Brady Palante (grey-shirt) is now 3 stars (instead of "NR" - not rated).
This adds 40 points (for purposes of the Scout team ranking methodology) and, together with the cumulative effect of all changes on the date hereof, pushes our team ranking up to #2 (behind Texas A&M).
When these recruiting sites "update" their rankings and shuffle guys around 5 spots.
You mean we're getting the #7 player in the country now instead of the #11!?? NICE!
Why is that funny? Would you rather they move everyone 50 spots every time?
I like how you have 3 pts and flamebait.
I think that's to denote "he made a good point, but he was kind of a dick about it."
ugh someone bumped it up to 4 normal. Don't worry though, I marked it flamebait for ya!
Damn you
Currently 4 flamebait, think it's possible to be 5 flamebait?
I bumped it to five "normal" just to be a dick.
I bumped it to five "normal" just to be a dick.
The double post is karma.
...and that's what is most important.
Better than being completely wrong and being a sweetheart about it.
Not anymore. You're welcome.
Now he has four points, but it's still "flamebait."
That someone got better or worse, or they found some top 100 player they've never seen before, in JUNE. But it's hard to make money that way.
I'm not paying for any of it, but don't you think more updates is better than fewer updates? Obviously not a ton has changed since their last update, but they received new info and updated accordingly. How is that a bad thing?
That made the #11 player 4 spots better in the first week of June. They're just making shit up for hits. I mean, if more updates is better, why not do one every day? They must have been working and learned something since yesterday, right?
Well, he put up a bunch of crazy track numbers since then, so that could have swayed him. Or maybe one or two of the guys above him put in a less than stellar performance at a camp. Stuff has certainly happened since their last update, so why not adjust the list accordingly?
A lot of camps have happened lately, and a lot of guys have been getting new offers. So Scout has updated their lists to reflect this. I still don't see why people think this is a bad thing.
Scout was so good at their recruitng rankings last year, I wonder why they suck so much this year?
ESPN and 247sports are the best. Their team rankings are so accurate especially #1.
247sports has Texas A&M as #1 after Kyle Allen committed.
And ESPN is clearly better this year
that there is no way to tell how accurate rankings REALLY are right now. At the moment, it's all just hype. No one will know how good these classes really are and how they stack up against one another for at least 3 years.
Were there not that many TEs at the Columbus NFTC? He won MVP and a spot at the Opening. Maybe these rankings were set before then, or maybe that performance wasn't enough to overcome their other doubts.
From what I've read the concerns with Bunting are related to his durability (he was hurt each of the last two years). I'm still surprised that's enough to keep him from getting a fourth star given his talent.
Bunting has never played tight end and is still very skinny. It's not too surprising that he's ranked as a 3-star - he's ranked as a 3-star to Rivals, too. The two sites that list him as a 4-star are the ones with the shortest track record of doing these rankings.
I don't think you understand the scientific principle that all UM commits should be rated at least a 4 star.
I don't think the Bunting reactions is homerism. You would have to be blind not to see the potential in him as a receiving tight end.
His hands alone are four star prospects.
Well all that matters to me is that you approve of him Magnus. So... welll.. do you?
I approve of no one except Miranda Kerr.
How can you say that without adding a picture or a link so that the unwashed masses can also bask in her glory? Also, great call. She's ridiculous.
Also probably rating him as a 4-star:
The coaching staffs at:
- Michigan
- Florida State
- Nebraska
- Notre Dame
- Ohio State
- Oklahoma
- Oregon
- USC
- ... and many others (VA Tech, Wisconsin, Northwestern, etc.)
His offer list suggests that 247 and ESPN might be onto something with this one.
Coaching staffs are just as capable of whiffing on kids as recruiting sites. Vladimir Emilien had offers from Ohio State, Stanford, and Tennessee. Anthony Lalota had offers from Florida, Florida State, and Notre Dame. Je'Ron Stokes had offers from Florida, Georgia, Oklahoma, and Penn State. Justin Turner had an offer from Ohio State.
None of them have panned out...
I heard Jordan Kovacs walked on, even. That's crazy!!
So that means both coaching staffs and recruiting sites whiffed.
Vlad Emilien, in particular, suffered a debilitating injury which he never fully recovered from. He said one of the reasons Michigan got him was the fact that they persisted when other schools were backing away from their offers. But it didn't pan out. Also: insert list of kids with elite offer sheets who have worked out HERE. Longer list, isn't it?
So...what you're saying is that some guys with elite offer lists pan out, and some don't. Got it.
Pretty disappointing this time.
Guys with elite offer lists tend to pan out more often than those who don't. Compare the number of 5 stars who end up as all- American to the number of walk-ons who do, and you'll see how unfounded your argument is.
And the fact that someone bombed here at Michigan doesn't necessarily mean that they weren't worth an offer from other elite teams.
Well yes, everyone in the world of projecting football talent from high school to college makes mistakes. Obviously. Your original point, though, was that we should probably trust Rivals and Scout (which are relatively low on Bunting) over 247 and ESPN (which are relatively high on Bunting). My point is that if you're going to do that, you're really trusting Rivals and Scout over 247, ESPN, and the coaches at a whole lot of programs that can be extremely selective with their offers.
False. What I'm saying is that if there are four major sites, and 50% of them already rank him as a 3-star, it should not be a "surprise" that he's still ranked as a 3-star, especially when the two sites that rank him as a 3-star have a longer/better track record.
and they are capable of getting things right too, and giving higher internal evaluations to players that eventually turn out to be good but who were rated poorly. [insert examples]. there, ball has not advanced at all.
That's basically my point.
not only has he not played TE yet but he hasn't finished a full year of football since his freshman year. At this point durability has to be a concern atleast in the back of your mind
meh
I'm not really concerned about their ranking. They are good enough for the coaches, which is why they recruited them.
PEPPERS ONLY NUMBER 7!!!1! RABBLE RABBLE RABBLE
Bunting will probably pick up his 4th star before NSD, especially if he completes his senior year healthy.