August 29th, 2008 at 12:44 PM ^
August 29th, 2008 at 1:45 PM ^
she has more experience ker right thumb than obama has in his whole life. could SOMEONE somewhere tell me what he has done? I really want to know! Hope and change are great, but I believe that Castro ran on that also...
being a LEADER of a state is more than being a senator for 141 days, and not showing up to his own committee meetings. THAT IS WHY IN YEARS PAST YOU DID NOT HAVE A CONGRESSMAN/SENATOR win the WH. They are not leaders yet they are followers and that is on both sides of the aisle.
August 29th, 2008 at 3:03 PM ^
August 30th, 2008 at 8:42 PM ^
whats Osama going to change? Its not change we need, what we ned is a solution to some problems that arn't as big a deal as the "libral" media makes out to be.
McCain and Palin will win and life will go on. Hopefully.
August 31st, 2008 at 2:39 AM ^
lol hey guys did you see what wingedG did there?! He like, changed Obama's name to Osama! lolz get it?! Like Bin Laden?!
I mean, the least you can do is be creative w/ politician hate names like Jay...I think we deserve that much.
August 29th, 2008 at 12:45 PM ^
McCain spends two months hammering Obama for being an inexperienced celebrity and then runs out and picks a former beauty queen with two years of experience as governor of the most backwoods and sparsely populated state in the Union. Oh, but before that she served on some city counsels and stuff. The VP debate with Biden is going to make Ghoulston-Schilling look like a pleasant give-and-take.
I mean, she'll appeal to some women, sure. But people don't vote for president based on who the VP is. If so, Walter Mondale would have won.
All of that said, this is a nice pick and will give McCain some positive press, but things are FAAAR from locked up.
(Also, what's with all the politics in here lately? I thought that was somewhat verboten?)
August 29th, 2008 at 12:54 PM ^
Well, unlike McCain, she's actually conservative, so that will definitely help him. Conservatives should be very happy with this pick. I don't know if it will "lock" his chances at victory b/c he still has many flaws, but it's a step. Since the media & opponents haven't been able to demonize her yet like they already have McCain, Obama, Biden, et al, she seems like a really good fit for voters on the right.
helloheisman - Why is this insulting to women? I understand your claim about him not being able to use Obama's inexperience as much, however, the presidency and the vice presidency are different in terms of how much experience they seemingly should have (at least public perception wise, which is all that matters at this point).
August 29th, 2008 at 1:23 PM ^
I think McCain's saying that women supported Hilary strictly because she's a women and they don't have any other political awareness. Now he's offering up some random woman in hopes of getting those voters on his side.
I, at least, have read that a lot of people are offended by this pick.
August 29th, 2008 at 4:11 PM ^
August 29th, 2008 at 4:52 PM ^
helloheisman you hit the nail on the head.
damn straight i'm insulted! It is demeaning and wrong to think that the only reason women were interested in Hilary is because of her ovaries so having any ovarian candidate on any ticket will therefore bring those voters over.
McCain has just proven that he is a rash, crazy ol' candidate who just doesn't get it.
August 29th, 2008 at 12:54 PM ^
And she's a creationist! Awesome!
I'm sure she'll do GREAT.
August 29th, 2008 at 1:12 PM ^
August 29th, 2008 at 1:15 PM ^
I think McCain has his reasons, and she does have good qualities that conservatives are looking for, but I think this VP choice was just as flawed as Obama and Biden.
1. Undercutting themes of the campaign: McCain can't attack Obama's inexperience if Palin has even less experience than Obama. Obama can't harp too much on changing Washington culture if Biden has been a 35 year insider.
2. Picking VPs from small states with tiny electoral votes that weren't going to vote for the opposite party. There were a ton of VP possibilities from large battleground states, all of which have more than the minimum of 3 electoral votes of both Delaware and Alaska
3. It seems like the Palin pick was pandering towards women/younger voters. After all, there were plenty of conservatives to choose from, but McCain lags far behind in women.
Yeah, she'll make conservaties happy, but so would Tom Ridge or Mitt Romney, who have lots more experience and could possibly make the difference in a larger, battleground state. All in all though, Palin addresses some of McCain's weaknesses, just like Biden addresses some of Obama's weaknesses, like a good VP candidate should.
August 29th, 2008 at 2:19 PM ^
Actually if Ridge would have made conservatives happy, he'd have probably been the pick. Ridge is pro-choice on abortion, which makes him anathema to religious conservatives. Romney too was not that palatable to the right wing, which was uncertain about his pro-life credentials and a little uneasy with his Mormon faith.
August 29th, 2008 at 1:15 PM ^
woooooooooooo, i'm a hockey mom! and my husband's a fisherman and plays in the snow! and i was on a couple commissions in alaska and have been governor for a tiny bit! and now i get to be the VP nominee!!! woooooooooooooo!
about as presidential as my mom.
August 29th, 2008 at 1:31 PM ^
September 4th, 2008 at 6:27 PM ^
BO: Woooooooo! CHANGE! Yeah! CHANGE! Yeah, thanks, I know! Change to you too, buddy! Anyone have some spare CHANGE? Yes! Haha, I know! Change! We're going to exit wars everywhere, lift all taxes, and live in peace with everyone for eternity! YEAH! CHANGE!
Rare Conservative Reporter: Um, Mr. Obama. How?
BO: ....CHANGE!
Legions of Liberal Reporters: YES! He's brilliant!
About as presidential as my kooky English professor who thought that the Iraq War was a conservative ploy to control the world and the 9/11 attacks were planned by Bush himself. Speaking of which, the Democrats greatest argument against McCain is the Iraq War. If they're so against it, why doesn't Congress cut funding? Since the majority is Democratic, they could cut funding for the war today, if they wanted. No one seems to think of that when they blame Bush for "hundreds of thousands of dead" and a "ruinous war". Worst part is, the public supports these hypocrites, waving flags and screaming "CHANGE!".
When your entire campaign is based on a single word with no meaning or substance to it, one would think you'd get trounced.
September 6th, 2008 at 10:01 AM ^
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August 29th, 2008 at 1:19 PM ^
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August 29th, 2008 at 3:21 PM ^
Women who really care about feminist issues would not vote Republican just b/c of her. I really don't see her being a women having any legitimate effect over anyone who supported Hillary.
August 29th, 2008 at 5:15 PM ^
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August 29th, 2008 at 2:51 PM ^
August 29th, 2008 at 2:55 PM ^
August 29th, 2008 at 3:10 PM ^
Did my favorite site just become Daily Kos or Red State.
Cripes......if i am unable to avoid the political debate at my mgoblog refuge, then its going to be a long fall.
Although, I will say at least this thread has been conducted with decency unlike most of political forums you can find.
August 29th, 2008 at 3:14 PM ^
my chest: fuck anyone with ties to the bush administration.
With that being said, this is a brilliant move by mccain. The presidential election will not be decided by partisans. He needed to grab middle ground voters, and after the crap hillary did at the convention you can imagine a lot of P'O'd women joining the mccain camp. (for some god awful reason). Leave it to the GOP to find the one black person in the room and pretend he represents the party. I'm sure this 'woman' is a religious nut who doesn't really support woman's rights. She also highlights the issue of oil drilling.
The only way this could backfire on him is if she's not 'conservative enough' for the religious nut base, which mccain has had to do a lot of lying and waffling to try to win over in the first place. but from the few comments here it seems she's more nutty than chunky peanut butter.
I'm sure deibold will hand the election to the republican scum in the presidential election, I'm just hoping the people will vote in a super majority in the house and senate. Then mccain can go take his veto pen and assfuck himself with it for all I care.
August 29th, 2008 at 3:30 PM ^
I see you have learned NOTHING from the conversation we had in the first political topic you started here a couple of months ago. Yeah, the republiCONS are the problem. The DemoRATS rule! Go Obama! YEAH!!
Oh and just so everyone knows where I stand. John McCain is a manchurian candidate, a marxist socialist sympathyzer and a scumbag of the highest order. Barack Obama is well known to be a drug addicted bisexual who bottoms for gay prostitutes. Both will be good servants of the Unseen Hand. Don't be stupid. Stay home on Election Day (more properly called SELECTION Day). That's the best way to give the NWO a big FUCK YOU.
August 29th, 2008 at 3:44 PM ^
August 29th, 2008 at 3:48 PM ^
August 29th, 2008 at 3:52 PM ^
there's even the helpful "OT" in the title. click at your own risk.
and on an aside, who looks more like the emperor? mccain or the pope? I vote for the pope. dude looks totally evil. I guess the devil had to possess a new body once rumsfeld was booted from office.
http://bp0.blogger.com/_R6JAxpvuDtI/R5L1wz5V_nI/AAAAAAAAAPU/F8oVtDadF4A…
http://synth.at.tut.by/pope-benedict-palpatine.jpg
http://home.planet.nl/~overboxx/uploaded_images/ratzinger-palpatine-727…
August 29th, 2008 at 3:49 PM ^
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September 4th, 2008 at 6:34 PM ^
"Her husband works for BP, the Dems can just rub everybody's face in that from here to the end and alienate enough voters from the McCain/Palin ticket. "
"He's a union member and works on the pipeline."
Tripped right out of the starting gate.
August 29th, 2008 at 4:14 PM ^
August 29th, 2008 at 5:04 PM ^
- She's pro drilling in Alaska
- She's currently under investigation for firing a guy for very shady reasons. Something about forcing out a trooper for not firing her sister's ex husband or something. Sounded way too backwoods kentucky for me to make it through. Link if you want it: http://www.adn.com/monegan/story/492964.html
August 30th, 2008 at 12:51 AM ^
Not really a fan of Palin, but this just seems like she had the (figurative) balls to take charge and say "Fuck you" to due process. The trooper was slapping the wife around, accused of tasering the 11 year old stepson, was suspended for 10 days later reduced to 5. I only wish Granholm would do something like that to Kwame.
The bigger scandal is the whole "I'm going to replace everybody that doesn't agree with me", which I suppose is what politicians do, but this was a creamery board. In Alaska. Let's repeat: A Creamery Board. In Alaska. Before this her claim to fame was getting some guy a $12k fine on the ethics committee.
Being governor of Alaska does not equal earth shattering issues. That and her creationism will probably turn off a ton of people.
August 29th, 2008 at 9:11 PM ^
August 29th, 2008 at 10:57 PM ^
One of the criteria of nominating a VP should be their capability to act as commander in chief. Someone who was mayor of a town of 9,000 people 2 years ago does not fit this criteria.
Oh, and the VP debates should be interesting. And by interesting I mean a massacre.
August 29th, 2008 at 11:31 PM ^
August 30th, 2008 at 6:58 AM ^
August 30th, 2008 at 11:35 AM ^
Right.
Because Fuckface DoucheBama has TONS of experience with his 4 years in the Senate and a litany of missed votes.
Much like Assface McCain, Joe Biden is nothing but an f'ing career political hack who's old worthless ass should've been tossed out of the Senate by the people of Delaware YEARS ago.
I hate ALL of these screwballs, but, Sarah Palin is the least despicable of the four.
September 6th, 2008 at 1:05 AM ^
August 29th, 2008 at 11:12 PM ^
August 30th, 2008 at 12:23 AM ^
She's a committed Christian who's pro-life in practice as well as in
theory; she recently gave birth to a son that she knew would have Down
Syndrome.
I have, and always will be pro-choice, and suspicious of politicos wearing the "Christian" tag. And in spite of that, this is perhaps the most exemplary thing I've heard a politician do.
There's a lot of people in this world who would not have taken this
route, pro-choice and pro-life (hypocrites). I admire the hell out of
her for this single moral choice. It's exactly what this country needs
- someone who practices what the hell they preach.
August 30th, 2008 at 7:00 AM ^
so she's a genetic reject too.
joking.
*as all the people who know someone with DS get ready to tell me how offensive that crack was*