OT: Prohm out at Iowa State
I thought he was pretty good for Iowa State, this year was a disaster and the year before was not great either so maybe something was not right. He won the Big 12 twice in his first 4 years so my guess is that he could not sustain recruiting.
https://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/story/_/id/31072975/steve-prohm-iowa-state-cyclones-men-basketball-coach
March 16th, 2021 at 10:05 AM ^
But what about Matt Campbell???
March 16th, 2021 at 10:20 AM ^
I knew they were bad, but I didn't realize they were 2-22, maybe they ask Hoiberg if he wants to come home?
March 16th, 2021 at 10:24 AM ^
Wow. What a fall from grace. He was a top candidate for many after JB left.
March 16th, 2021 at 10:28 AM ^
Too bad we ended up with some bum named Juan.
March 16th, 2021 at 10:34 AM ^
J-uan ?
March 16th, 2021 at 10:35 AM ^
ThatsTheJoke.gif
March 16th, 2021 at 11:52 AM ^
That guy is just a puppet... Martelli is the real coach - and quite a coup that was! Warde must have the persuasion of a genius because he got Martelli bounced from St Joe's and talked this Juan guy into being a figurehead - all at the same time!
Man, Warde needs a pay raise...
March 16th, 2021 at 12:10 PM ^
Juan Mo Time.
You mean Martelli?
Pretty sure this was one of Brian’s top choices after JB
Yes, he was on the short list for a lot of people. His stock was really high at the time. Crazy fall from grace.
The coaching search per Brian in order of preference:
1. Billy Donovon - wasn't happening
2. Steve Prohm - the best combo of "proven" guy with remaining upside (so we thought)
3. Juwan Howard - the risky pick with upside but some concern he'd be the next Patrick Ewing, Danny Manning or any of the many failed former star college and NBA players.
4. Luke Yaklich - the risky unproven guy with some upside and potentially easiest transition.
5 + Ed Cooley - the please noooooooooooooo proven to be mediocre guy (lumped in here was Lavell Jordan and other various guys).
On Juwan's Hello post Brian wrote: "I'm neither over the moon or ready to visit Ann Arbor Torch and Pitchfork. My initial list of coaching candidates had three guys above the Yak line. Billy Donovan apparently wasn't interested; Steve Prohm inexplicably never came up; Juwan Howard is the guy."
I have to admit that I felt similarly and and so glad Juwan has thus far exceeded even my highest expectations.
March 16th, 2021 at 10:34 AM ^
He won the Big 12 tournament twice. That's a lot different than being the best team all season. His best conference record was 12-6. I've never understood why people were looking at him as a candidate.
March 16th, 2021 at 10:35 AM ^
so.......what about the 'after prohm'?
I'll show myself out.
March 16th, 2021 at 10:44 AM ^
The After Prohm was why they had to fire Larry Eustachy Before Prohm, I think I created a time loop.
March 16th, 2021 at 10:42 AM ^
I don't follow ISU but looking at their recruiting it looks like they started relying on transfers and CC guys and that can be a tough life to live if you don't hit. He's still a good coach so I'm sure he'll work somewhere else, but 2-22 is awful and definitely isn't something you'd expect given his past success.
March 16th, 2021 at 10:42 AM ^
Wonder if they’ll try and lure back Hoiberg
March 16th, 2021 at 10:52 AM ^
Now there's a job I'd love to see Coach Beilein in.
He wouldn't be competing against us in the B1G but would yet be the anti-Fran.
March 16th, 2021 at 12:08 PM ^
Going from the sad sack Cavaliers to the 2-22 Cyclones? Ooof.
Yeah, 2-22 is abysmally rock bottom, but from memory alone ISU has been a solid program for a long time, one that I'd bet could be resurrected fairly quickly.
I'm not of the mindset though that Beilein even wants to get back to coaching at his age. He seems to be quite comfortable in his emerging new career on TV.
I absolutely don't envision him wanting to coach against Michigan in the Big Ten. Especially in the IU pressure cooker/mess.
Just think, though, how much enjoyment we'd all get out of watching him get the better of Fran. That would be delicious!
I dunno. A guy who goes to the NBA isn't generally looking to get AWAY from a pressure cooker situation.
Indiana has a ton of history, and would be a tempting job for Beilein. I think the will take it if they offer it to him, even if only for 5-7 years before he retires.
Could we trade Beilein for Campbell?
I don't understand the concern about Beilein. Isn't he almost 70? What's the best he can do and for how long? If he rebuilds IU in a couple years to a good team for a couple more, I'm fine with that. There's a chance they hire someone like Nate Oats and are good for decades, right?
I'm not so worried he'll turn them into a powerhouse for 20 years; I just don't want to root against him. I'm not gonna root for Indiana basketball.
Would love to see Beilein at a school I could actually root for when they're not playing Michigan...like Northwestern.
March 16th, 2021 at 12:13 PM ^
In all fairness they could have easily been 4-20 this season. If that one player had hit a couple more threes in the one game and the officials hadn’t screwed them in the other...
March 16th, 2021 at 12:18 PM ^
If I were Beilein and I were really wanting to get back into coaching, this would be a much more attractive option than Indiana.
ISU has considerably lower expectations, is still good enough of a basketball school where you can get good fan/alum support, has pretty recent success to hang its hat onto, and on top of all of that, he wouldn't have to have the displeasure of facing Michigan as many as three times a season. That wouldn't be fun either for him or for Michigan.
I think Indiana would be way too high stress for Beilein at this stage of his career. Five, ten years ago, maybe not, but he's 68, fresh off heart surgery, and Indiana will expect national title contention by Year 2. They will also expect him to reel in the kind of five star talent consistently that he wasn't getting at Michigan, and he's already shown that those are the guys he doesn't typically go after anyway. Iowa State will want good to great teams, but they're not going to expect him to dethrone Kansas, and they will give him the time he needs to build his program. They'll be fine with the kind of guys he can get.
I personally still think he's done, but if he's not, this would be a better option than IU.
Following in the footsteps of the great Johnny Orr
As an ISU grad my number 1 scenario would be Beilein with Patrick. You know what you're getting with Beilein and even though it was very limited, Patrick had a lot of success in a short period of time. At Beileins age, having his son, with HC history is good as far as work load and potential succession. ISU also isn't a stepping stone in basketball, save for that handful of elite jobs.
I always laughed when Brian brought up Prohm. I loved the guy, but most fans would have given him to Michigan. He would have never left, though. He just didn't work there. Even in his "good" years, they didn't reach potential and the past two have just been brutal. He might just be a mid-major guy.
Awesome dude, though. I've never heard a negative word about him as a person which is the part that sucks.
He won with Hoiberg’s players.
Locally here in Vegas, there’s reporting that they’ve got their guy already, T. J. Otzelberger, currently head coach at UNLV, formerly of the other SDSU, and assistant for both McDermott and Hoiberg at ISU.