No season tickets in 2020; tickets will be sold on game by game basis to only STHs and students
Resale market should be interesting.
If student prices stay the same, they are gonna be making lots of money
I assumed something like this would happen. If fans are allowed, the stadium would be at best 50% full and that is easily covered by students and season ticket holders....and I'm still calling dibs on Wisconsin and Penn State!
Hard to see how they get over 25%full. Every other row/every other seat still isn't 6 feet spacing. Family units can still squeeze together, student section I have no ideas.
At least they are being honest. There won't be a resale market, because there won't be a season.
How about we just let it play out? Crazy, I know.
Agreed WD. People love to come on here holier-than-thou and say “there shall be no football, idiots!” But like the rest of us, they have no idea how this plays out...
It’s obnoxious as hell.
Same exact people who declare our biggest game a loss before they even see either team’s current incarnation take the field once.
One team is the national champions and the other is a total failure. Did I do that right?
FWIW I told the Browns yesterday we would not be attending any games and to refund the money we had paid for the 2020 season tickets & club membership. I asked our ticket rep what others were doing and he said with over a month until the deadline for making a decision about 30% of the current season ticket holder base had opted out.
Yup. And in fact, since they always seem to speak in broad, sweeping generalities, I would be willing to make a public wager with any of them. They can take the "no football" side and I will take the "some football" side of the wager - which could include, technically, just one official CFB game being played. I will wager one billion trillion quadrillion dollars on the "some football" side to their "no football," even odds. If one game starts and ends, I win...
WD, I get that you would like a football season but when it is the middle of July, practice is supposed to be starting in a few weeks and your country is at its highest level of an infection from a virus that is highly contagious and carries potentially dangerous ramifications that so far has included death for at least 135,000 people, it is nice to temper wishes with a bit of reality.
It's all about having realistic expectations. The odds are against a season happening and you're just setting yourself up for disappointment if you're clinging to every small hope.
You're right, no one has any idea what will happen. Either the season will happen or it won't. I just prefer to be ready for the worst-case scenario.
I'm a little confused about how having an opinion on whether the season will or will not happen has any effect on how this will all "play out."
For whatever reason the "there will be football" crowd believes the "there wont be football" crowd secretly doesnt want football and is happy it might be cancelled. I have no clue why that is (I love football FWIW but have been posting here since March I dont see how it's possible) but that's why I think.
I guess that you and to be the first to say "I told you so".
Honestly I feel like if they were not going to give it a go we would actually know that by now. I don't know how long it will last, but I think it is becoming pretty clear that they are going to at least try to play college football with some degree of fans in the stadium. If they did not have a good faith belief that they were going to proceed they would not be making logistical decisions like this.
I do feel that the NFL will happen. It is just a big difference with college sports. Basically forcing them to play during the pandemic, unpaid, just because so many schools depend completely on football money. Feels even dirtier than the NCAA normally does.
I think another part of it is that I am guessing an overwhelming majority of the players badly want to play. I know it is basically unpaid labor, this is a situation that clearly highlights that issue, but think about how pumped players are at the beginning of the season, the first series, the first game. My guess is that 95% of the players want the season to happen very badly. I could be wrong on that but I don't think I am.
But if they're already going to be on campus, what would you rather have them doing, openly socializing in groups all year because their sport was cancelled, or following stringent rules inside schembechler hall and being constantly tested? This is what Harbaugh was getting at when he said "there's no professional opinion that says sports will make things worse."
Why haven't they commissioned a study on exactly this? What is the risk to college football players relative to a normal student who'd be returning to campus for classes in some capacity?
I pulled data from a Bloomberg report several weeks back that confirmed the risk for the 18-25 year old age group is no greater for COVD than it is for seasonal flu. So then the only question for players is, what's the increased for me given I'll be playing football instead of just going to school?
For coaches and related staff, yes you have to take measures to protect them. The same question is asked of professors and staff for college classes.
But there's so much at stake, why wouldn't they want to be able to say "football players are or are not at greater risk of infection than a normal student. If they are not, play ball (with coaches/staff considerations handled) If they are at greater risk, how much greater risk? Give that to the players and let them decide. No scholarships removed if they opt out. It's possible that the risk is much, much higher for football players (despite them being isolated, I would think, from a lot of socialization that would occur with a typical student), and if that's the case, then the decision for no football is made for you.
I know such a study would have a lot of assumptions. That's OK, it's data-driven.
I’m assuming that this year will be like every academic year at osu. The players will take all of their classes online and spend their time at the football facility.
The social part is the toughest to control.
But they wouldn't just be contained to Schembechler Hall. Teams will be coming from out of state and Michigan will be traveling out of state. Also, your scenario is not an "either/or" choice. They will be socializing in groups all year and playing the sport. You're delusional if you think playing the season will somehow keep players from going to parties and stuff.
It is much easier to prepare to play and back away, then the other way around. If there is any chance of playing, it is irresponsible not to have plans for it. That doesn’t mean the chances are particularly good.
A key component to all of the opening up sports plans is reliant on frequent testing. At the moment, we are having significant problems with getting testing back in a reasonable timeframe. The start of both college and pro football seasons coincides with 100s of thousands if not millions of college students returning to campus. Many of those campus return plans also involve plans for significant testing. At the same time, there is a push to get kids back in school. The combination of kids returning to school and college will inevitably lead to new surges which will necessitate even more testing.
Unless there is a significant change in the opinions of a vocal minority, we have some real breakthroughs on testing (there is some really cool stuff that people are working on that could be game changing, but probably not in the next two months), there is a real breakthrough on treatments (such as something that could be given early, before people need to be hospitalized), there are significant roadblocks to the optimistic take on fall sports.
If in a few weeks, someone decides they don't want to use their season tickets, keep me in mind.
Perhaps you're being sarcastic, but there are no season tickets this year.
Meant it to mean "season ticket holders who obtain single games and decide not to go". I'll buy!
No Surprise. We still don't know what the capacity will be in the stadium. Assuming there will be CFB, it's going to be weird at the corner of Stadium and Main streets this fall.
I'm confused on the PSD thing. If there are no season tickets, what do we need to wait for until I can ask for my $$ back? Is being able to order single games should they become available contingent on letting them keep my money?
If people chose to buy tickets, they will transfer the money and avoid transaction costs. Also, probably waiting to push the refund costs into the next financial period.
That all seems pretty reasonable.
My bet is that any ticket sales happen the week of the game to avoid refund cost by the university. Every credit card transaction they loose a % so if they end up cancelling games, that could be a huge additional loss. May not have time to do a resale so hopefully only avid fans actually make it into the stadium for a change.
Anyone else think they'll cancel the season so they don't have to break the 100k home attendance streak* ? /s
8.0.2Gotta have priorities
There's no way a season will be played. I just received the curriculum update from my department. Every single one of my classes including my two waitlist classes are remote. That plus, no season tickets and no general public tickets all but confirm no football this Fall.
Why would they offer general public when the capacity would be capped at 20,001 and have way over that amount of STHs and students combined?
Chill. My point is about the football and academic announcements within 24 hours of each other. And what both mean for the football season. Not each individual person allowed through the gates.
This is the most ominous incremental step towards cancelling the season outright
I think you misread the rules. It clearly says no tickets will be made available to the general public.
If they have fans in the stands what does that say about those people? Are they putting lives at risk?
Not if they all mask up! Wear a mask people!!
late entries to the “pet peeves from the board” post from a couple days ago:
- abbreviations of things that shouldn’t be abbreviated, the current example being “STHs.” nobody uses this.
- and a “pre-“ pet peeve...once this is all over and we’re back to 100k-plus crowds, someone will write “michigan would have 300 consecutive crowds over 100,000, except for the pandemic season of 2020.” that qualifier (and it will be used in every single streak-related story, for years and years) going to sound like nails on a chalkboard really, really quickly
Meanwhile, OSU will give its fans an early Christmas present and open theIr stadium at 100% capacity just in time for the Michigan game.
You heard it here first.
A 105,000 Covid exposure pool?
Do not interrupt your enemy when they’re making a mistake.
I have season tickets at osu as well and the athletic department is completely silent on whats going on with games/tickets this fall. They keep sending updates that there are no updates. Im assuming everything will be refunded or credited to next year...osu is never quick or easy when it comes to refunding money. The university hasnt pushed back at all against state government policies or recommendations from the medical cemter up to this point...except for that goofiness of having athletes sign liability waivers. I actually expect the athletic facilities and the dorms to be closed to public/students this fall. I never thought I would see the day where osu football took a back seat to anything in columbus ohio.
Leaving this here because I can't start threads yet and this seems to be the most related thread. Anyone with enough points should feel free to make a thread
The 2021 Rose Parade is cancelled. There is no decision on the Rose Bowl game as of now. The Tournament of roses Association felt that they needed to make the decision now before float builders, sponsors and bands started to spend money in preparation for the game. The flowers for the floats are typically ordered at the end of July.
https://laist.com/latest/post/20200715/rose_parade_cancellation_coronav…