xtramelanin

May 14th, 2019 at 3:37 PM ^

the article left out the phrase, 'kicking and screaming' before, 'appointing a working group'.  

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HelloHeisman91

May 14th, 2019 at 3:37 PM ^

Have to admit that it seems like they’re going to screw this up. 

 

“This group will bring together diverse opinions from the membership — from presidents and commissioners to student-athletes — that will examine the NCAA’s position on name, image and likeness benefits and potentially propose rule modifications tethered to education,” said Val Ackerman, commissioner of the Big East and working group co-chair. “We believe the time is right for these discussions and look forward to a thorough assessment of the many complexities involved in this area.”

According to the board, the group will not consider any concepts that could be construed as payment for participation in college sports. The NCAA’s mission to provide opportunity for students to compete against other students prohibits any contemplation of pay-for-play.

“While the formation of this group is an important step to confirming what we believe as an association, the group’s work will not result in paying students as employees,” said Gene Smith, Ohio State senior vice president and athletics director and working group co-chair. “That structure is contrary to the NCAA’s educational mission and will not be a part of this discussion.”  

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Surveillance Doe

May 14th, 2019 at 3:59 PM ^

Yes, whatever this working group comes up with will be extremely underwhelming and sure to induce rolling of the eyes.

I have dealt with the NCAA in the legal world a handful of times, and it's kind of astonishing to talk to representatives and hear how out of touch they are. There is a remarkable amount of pride portrayed, for example, when talking about the opportunities they--again, these are NCAA reps--have bestowed upon young Black men from underprivileged communities. These nitwits approach everything as though they are providing a service for which we should all be grateful. Any criticism, in their eyes, is just an example of no good deed going unpunished.

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UMmasotta

May 14th, 2019 at 5:25 PM ^

I assume the operative phrase there is "as employees." The group (hopefully) will consider means or structures that allow for student athletes to be compensated for name and images rights either a) by somebody other than the NCAA/colleges (most likely), or b) in such a way that student athletes are somehow not considered employees (not sure how that would be possible, but I'm not an employment attorney). 

I still think this could result in some meaningful improvement in allowing players to capitalize on their opportunity, even if not directly funded by the NCAA. If I had any faith in the NCAA, I might even say it could provide clearer rules that allow for more consistent and transparent discipline, but that's a pipe dream...

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stephenrjking

May 14th, 2019 at 3:45 PM ^

About time. Not that this is significant yet, but it's a step. They can't ignore the pressure that's on this.

The correct answer is: "No more rules on use of name-image-likeness, except maybe one or two basic safeguards, and when problems arise, we'll deal with that then."

Then let DPJ do dealership commercials. 

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DTOW

May 14th, 2019 at 3:52 PM ^

Such a tough topic. It’s probably needed but it also will mark a new era in basketball and football. Open bidding for recruits. 

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yossarians tree

May 14th, 2019 at 4:01 PM ^

I'm convinced the only way to save college basketball is to allow the players to play for the school/coach of their choice while under contract to professional clubs/agents. This removes all the under-the-table shenanigans and allows kids to develop in college for two or three years longer than many are now doing. The NBA needs college basketball and the NCAA needs to broom the idea of amateurism.

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DCGrad

May 14th, 2019 at 4:03 PM ^

I honestly can't believe that the image and likeness rules survived legal scrutiny.  Seems like anyone should be able to profit from their own likeness.

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M Go Cue

May 14th, 2019 at 4:23 PM ^

I fear some of the unintended consequences of allowing pay, likeness, etc would ruin the game for me.  

Over 90% of scholarship athletes are getting a great deal.  Not sure why the NCAA would blow up that model.  Doubt they will anytime soon.

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Solecismic

May 14th, 2019 at 5:03 PM ^

I don't think this will address anything of consequence for 99.99% of student athletes, but for the tiny percentage who are generating a lot of revenue for their universities, it seems more fair to allow them to profit.

The resulting room for corruption, though... that's a serious concern, but perhaps one that college basketball and football need to accept. Maybe if it's just out in the open who is paying whom for what and how much, this works out in the long run.

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Mgoeffoff

May 14th, 2019 at 7:22 PM ^

While the formation of this group is an important step to confirming what we believe as an association, the group’s work will not result in paying students as employees.

If that's the case I question where this can really go, but at least they are looking at it.

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