UMFanatic96

January 29th, 2020 at 8:08 AM ^

I went to his website that was linked in the news article...the cheapest listing he has is $13 million.

I'd say he's made it in this and it's great to see him succeed post-football. 

UMFanatic96

January 29th, 2020 at 9:26 AM ^

I've had passing thoughts about becoming a realtor...

Pros: Potential for great commission, mostly non-office job, could be a "fun" job

Cons: Inconsistent hours, your earnings are dependent on a housing market you have no control over, heavy competition (especially in California)

 

I'm not a risky enough person to actually go through with it, but I can definitely see the appeal.

Great Cornholio

January 29th, 2020 at 10:11 AM ^

I'm a real estate broker in Ann Arbor. Mine is a one-man shop. And while there are certainly some dubious actors in the profession, I think that's true of any for-profit profession, and I don't think the conflict of interest argument (which I've heard ad nauseam from FSBO sellers who think their house is worth more than it is, and buyers who don't understand what it takes to succeed in a competitive marketplace) holds much water. By and large, do you think doctors are in the habit of prescribing unnecessary surgeries just so they can make more money? Do you think basement contractors are in the habit of exaggerating structural issues so they can get more work? Those things happen - but I don't think they're the norm. Honest people are honest; trust and reputation are earned. If I led my buyers to overpay for a house or to purchase a home they didn't really love, or if I urged my sellers to take less than what the market would bear just to save myself some hours and earn a quick commission, I would have a lot of unhappy customers and I wouldn't be in business for long. Ethical flexibility is unnecessary if you're genuinely committed to the fiduciary responsibility you owe your client.

mgokev

January 29th, 2020 at 10:44 AM ^

I think it just comes down to the basic incentive structure and finding a realtor that truly appreciates the goals of their clients in spite of their own. 

For example, let's say a home can sell for $300k today or $330k in a month. 

The realtor can earn $9k today or $9.9k in a month. Whereas the gain for the seller likely vastly outweighs that person's earning ability over that same time period.  The tension comes from the realtor being financially motivated on velocity whereas the seller is financially motivated by price. 

I lived through this exact scenario...and my realtor insisted to list my home 15%(!) below what it sold for a few weeks later. I would've lost over $100k in value had I blindly trusted her "market analysis" and "negotiation experience". 

With that said, you sound like you have the right attitude and mindset toward customers and will be successful in this space over the long haul. My recent experience taints my opinion and leaves me jaded. 

Great Cornholio

January 29th, 2020 at 11:17 AM ^

It's possible your realtor believed they were working in your best interest at the time, or just misread the market in advising when to list and at what price. Valuation can be a tricky balance between data and instinct; it's more of a data-driven science for actual appraisers. A lower listing price can yield the same sale price as a higher one while shielding the seller from a potential appraisal shortfall (which can potentially submarine an ongoing transaction), which sounds like how it maybe worked out here. Did the buyer share their appraisal with you (assuming they had one)?

Or your realtor could have been motivated by velocity, as you suggest. Definitely possible.

Whatever the case, congrats on the sale and on getting a price that made you happy in the end.

wolpherine2000

January 29th, 2020 at 2:47 PM ^

I think the biggest issue is with buyers agents. There's no question that a good real estate agent has enormous value for many buyers, but the compensation structure is completely backwards as it incentivizing closing deals at higher prices, which is at odds with the buyers interests. Turnover is too high and the barrier to entry for new agents is too low - while someone who is established has a reputation that tempers unethical behavior, at the low end of the market I've seen a lot of bad actors.

Doctors are actually a great example of precisely why this is such a problem - we regularly read stories about unnecessary procedures and creative medical coding that drives up costs for consumers. And there has been a persistent conversation about making medical compensation tied to outcomes instead of procedures. Honestly, I think all it would take for to clean things up is to change the compensation for buyers agents to negotiated fee rather than commission. 

pescadero

January 29th, 2020 at 1:12 PM ^

My real estate complaints:

1) Sketchy with listings. The house has an offer. MLS requires you to change status to pending within 48 hours. 90% of realtors will leave that house listed as "for sale" in MLS for weeks to months.

2) Sketchy relationships with appraisers, lenders, and home inspectors - although this is much better post housing collapse -  it should be specifically disallowed in the Code of ethics.

3) Dual agency should be disallowed everywhere

4) Agents are way too lax at filing complaints about other realtors violating NAR code of ethics.

Great Cornholio

January 29th, 2020 at 3:49 PM ^

Not to get too into the weeds, but just to respond to these concerns...

1) I don't know how it works in other markets but around here if a listing agent violates the time requirement on status change, they are quickly called out by other realtors and incur a fine, which escalates with recurrence. Popular third-party sites like Zillow routinely continue to show properties for sale even after the local MLS shows them under contract. It's a source of consternation for buyers who get excited about homes they find via Zillow search only to find out they're essentially unavailable. I presume this is rooted somehow in Zillow benefitting from more site traffic generated by a greater number of available listings.

2) I'd encourage anyone to ask their realtor if they are receiving any sort of incentive for recommending these various professionals. Part of my value is being able to refer my clients to lenders, inspectors, contractors etc with whom I've worked in the past and hold a high opinion. It's a good practice to ask your realtor for 3 names for each service so you can compare.

3) Agree.

4) I'm on our local board's grievance committee. The complaints are all either commission disputes or code of ethics violations. We hear quite a few, but it could be that more are warranted. The complainant need not be a real estate professional.

 

I'mTheStig

January 29th, 2020 at 11:41 AM ^

A good realtor, when you can find one, is worth their weight in gold. 

When I sold my house 2 years ago my realtor:

  • Handed all the paperwork
  • Fended off investors -- I restored a house in a historical neighborhood and I didn't want some fuck from California coming in and turning it into a scrape... or screwing up the neighborhood for my awesome neighbors.  
  • Won a couple of contract disputes for me. 
  • Helped me close remotely (I was out of state on business on closing day). 
  • Helped me with my new place remotely (even live streamed a walk through for me). 
  • Arranged all the inspections for me. 
  • Worked the lending for me (with a bank that won't sell my loan either -- if you've ever had someone selling your loan ass pain, you'll know how good it is to find a good bank and be able to keep them).

The amount of effort on my part was a couple of phone calls a week.  I didn't even have to ask for a lot of that stuff... he just did it.  That stud earned every penny of his commission.

tspoon

January 29th, 2020 at 9:04 AM ^

SoCal is a great place for him. All the Trojan fans will remember Petey C throwing 28 straight times (mostly at him) in the second half of the 2007 Rose Bowl blowout.

*correction: 26 of 28 plays were passes -- two times the Trojans did a QB sneak (3rd-and-1, 4th-and-2) to move the chains.  Otherwise it was five straight scoring drives (4 passing TDs and a FG) where Carroll did not even bother calling a running play.

Jason80

January 29th, 2020 at 10:52 AM ^

It's amazing, the entire team mailed in that Rose Bowl but it's all Trent's fault because of how internet message board narratives work. Funny thing was in the next 2 games Michigan played after the OSU and USC games to end 06 the defense got shredded again and neither Edwards nor Dixon ever sniffed in Morgan's direction. 

But Warren was a 5 star and that's all that matters

Jason80

January 29th, 2020 at 7:42 PM ^

I thought SC mailed in the first half as well as they were in the same boat as us, a loss in the last game against the rival cost the a spot in the title game (potentially) and the players on both teams weren't motivated to play in the Rose.

They woke up in the second half, perhaps because they didnt want to lose in that stadium for the third time in a year.

tspoon

January 30th, 2020 at 11:37 AM ^

It would be terrific if you could point out where I said it was "all Trent's fault."

 

waiting....

 

The pass D got shredded pretty thoroughly that day (even the great Leon Hall got burned deep by D Jarrett). But if you go back and watch the game, on many plays you can see plain as day John David Booty coming to the LOS, looking for #14 in a winged helmet and going right at him again and again.  It was just a really tough day for Morgan.  Eventually English started trying to protect him with some zone, but by then Booty and USC's playcalling were brimming with confidence and just went to town.

 

 

uofmdds96

January 29th, 2020 at 11:19 AM ^

It is good to see that. However,  I cannot tell you how many times I yelled his name in anger during a game.  Seemed like he often failed in crucial moments.

CoverZero

January 29th, 2020 at 12:00 PM ^

Good for him.  He is working for one of the biggest brokers out here. Hope he does well.  Cant believe he is 34 already.

4yearsofhoke

January 29th, 2020 at 12:28 PM ^

Had this happen when I was growing up. RE agent selling house insisted on listing house $X00k. We insisted list at $X + 50k. Home literally sold within a day to family represented by agent at same brokerage. To say that was money almost lost is an understated.

 

Relo company paid all seller commissions so it makes you think whether selling agent knew someone had a client with a certain budget and was trying to sell to that budget vs represent their client.

thethirdcoast

January 29th, 2020 at 4:53 PM ^

Not even 35 and he's collecting commissions on seven figure homes for THE broker in So Cal?

I think Morg is doing just fine!

In many ways, he has a nearly ideal life situation. He's pulling in more than enough money to cover his expenses and live it up, yet he is not a celebrity or public figure that has to deal with the media spotlight.

He could do this for 10 years and easily pile up enough cash to do whatever he wants to for the rest of his life.