Hoke Won't be Coaching CMU
It's originally being reported by some paper I have never heard of, but CBS Sports is citing said paper as "it was not a fit between the two sides." Would have been a nice landing spot for Brady. Also apparently it would be a minor cost savings for UM. (I believe Enos was making $350K or something).
Hoke's contract with Michigan calls for him to receive $3 million after being fired without cause, but it stipulates he must try to mitigate U-M's responsibility for the payment. He must make "reasonable efforts to obtain other football-related employment (such as a head or assistant coach of a professional football team, head men's football coach of an NCAA Division I team or media commentator)."
January 30th, 2015 at 5:07 PM ^
January 30th, 2015 at 5:21 PM ^
January 30th, 2015 at 5:37 PM ^
-1 for not "getting it." He meant Oakland U: https://www.facebook.com/OUclubfootball
January 30th, 2015 at 9:44 PM ^
January 30th, 2015 at 9:51 PM ^
and they are running out of you.
January 31st, 2015 at 12:14 PM ^
January 30th, 2015 at 5:08 PM ^
Well, we know media commentator is definitely out of the question. Hope finds a solid gig, though.
January 30th, 2015 at 5:13 PM ^
January 30th, 2015 at 6:50 PM ^
Well........they gave great effort in practice. Practiced really hard. Tremendous practice.
January 30th, 2015 at 7:21 PM ^
Identity crisis?
January 30th, 2015 at 5:14 PM ^
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January 30th, 2015 at 6:50 PM ^
I thought that when Hoke wasn't in a position where he felt defensive and could relax a bit he wasn't a bad speaker. Yeah, kind of folksy and not the most articulate, but not terrible compared to some of the talent out there.
January 30th, 2015 at 8:41 PM ^
Sorry, but one of the first requirements of representing the University of Michigan as a coach is that you sound like you are reasonably intelligent when you speak. It galled me to see other fans refer to Hoke as "Fred Flintstone," but there really wasn't any way to reasonably argue that they were out of line.
Hoke was intelligent enough to get his degree, but he didn't come off that way.
January 30th, 2015 at 8:53 PM ^
He never seemed to put two coherent thoughts together. That, coupled with no headset but instead clapping, cheering, made him an east target.
January 31st, 2015 at 12:44 PM ^
January 30th, 2015 at 5:12 PM ^
January 30th, 2015 at 5:16 PM ^
Well.... Both sides of the negotiation practiced hard. But they just didn't execute.
January 30th, 2015 at 5:37 PM ^
Maybe CMU had a headset clause in the contract?
January 30th, 2015 at 5:54 PM ^
That sentence literally triggered an absolute flood of memories from the past two seasons. Hoke's a nice guy, but I will not miss him on the sideline.
January 30th, 2015 at 6:03 PM ^
Should have preceded it with "trigger warning." My bad.
January 30th, 2015 at 5:17 PM ^
January 30th, 2015 at 5:22 PM ^
I don't see many options - if any - for him in the P5. It would probably be at a Wake Forest or Vanderbilt type situation. And why go to the bottom of the P5 and get your butt kicked in - better to go try to find a good mid major and have a good 10 year run. (and yes I realize Franklin got hired out of Vandy but he had a short track record and some "sex appeal" of being fresh, new, and young - Hoke won't have that) Oregon State was a fit due to his relationships there and time in the PST. I just don't see many programs that will see Hoke as a hot commodity in P5.
January 30th, 2015 at 5:29 PM ^
January 30th, 2015 at 5:32 PM ^
Not sure if his personality is a fit for NFL but if it is, he'd probably make a very good NFL DL coach. He might be too rah rah for those guys - who knows.
January 30th, 2015 at 5:56 PM ^
The Baltimore Raven are a good landing spot for former head coaches - Jim Caldwell, Cam Cameron, Gary Kubiak, Marty Mornhinweg, Marc Trestman, Steve Spagnuolo.
Plus Hoke and John Harbaugh were both assistants together at WMU for two years from 1984-86.
January 30th, 2015 at 5:33 PM ^
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January 30th, 2015 at 5:41 PM ^
RR can coach circles around Hoke.
Hoke didn't seem like a fit at CMU anyways
January 30th, 2015 at 6:00 PM ^
Agreed. RR was a winning P5 coach before UM and has continued his winning after UM.
January 30th, 2015 at 7:25 PM ^
He rebuilt the team and was winning at UM before he was fired.
January 30th, 2015 at 10:13 PM ^
His best season at UM he was 6--6 against FBS competition and 3-5 in the conference and we closed the season with losses by 48-28, 37-7 and 52-14. He deserved to be fired, and was.
January 30th, 2015 at 10:43 PM ^
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January 30th, 2015 at 11:42 PM ^
On one side of the ball...The offense regressed, but the defense, which did employ a new system, excelled.
February 2nd, 2015 at 2:12 PM ^
The defense also saw Woolfolk return from injury, Martin recover from an injury that made him largely ineffective after the Spartans crippled him with a cheap shot and three new freshmen: Ryan (redshirt), Countess and Morgan.
February 2nd, 2015 at 2:26 PM ^
That's the difference between #109 in the country (only Wazzoo was worse among P5 teams) and #16. We all know that a 1-10 or 0-11 team in the MAC or WAC (Akron was #108 in dFEI, San Jose State was #110) is just a couple of injuries and three freshmen away from being in the top 20.
February 2nd, 2015 at 3:03 PM ^
February 2nd, 2015 at 8:31 PM ^
These are schedule-adjusted and tempo-adjusted numbers. And the difference wasn't all that great in any case--the offenses Michigan faced in 2010 ranked 56th, the offenses they faced in 2011 ranked 69th. Both schedules were pretty weak. (Fremeau doesn't include games against FCS opponents, or 2010 would probably be even worse than 2011.)
And five players cannot push the equivalent of an 0-11 WAC team into the top 20. This was, by some distance, the biggest one-year improvement on either side of the ball in the Fremeau database. There are 120+ teams in FBS with an enormous gap in quality from top to bottom; nobody goes from the bottom 12 to the top 16 in one year. You probably have to go back to WW2 to find anything similar, back when rosters were totally fluid because players were bouncing from school to school for their officer training.
January 31st, 2015 at 11:23 AM ^
If your description were correct it would seem to be a pretty well-controlled experiment. Same players, same starters, same system, nothing changed but the coaching staff...and a team that had lost six of its last eight and suffered some of the worst beatdowns in school history miraculously transformed itself into a Sugar Bowl winner and won as many conference games that first season as they'd won in the prior three seasons combined...
...and this is supposed to be proof that the fired staff could coach rings around the guys that followed them?
You can argue Rodriguez's superiority over Hoke on other grounds. Arguing it on the grounds that Hoke was able to win with Rodriguez's players when Rodriguez himself couldn't is bizarre.
February 2nd, 2015 at 3:09 PM ^
Nothing strange about it. RR finally had his guys in place and, most importantly, 2011 finally saw a second year starter at QB. Lewan and Omameh were also second year starters.
You also ignore a vital element in your experiment: The schedule was much easier in 2011 than in previous years.
January 30th, 2015 at 6:03 PM ^
Double post.
January 30th, 2015 at 6:55 PM ^
I think he gets the situation he's in, feels a little humbled and probably wouldn't mind taking a step down and being a respected coach in a mid-tier conference. It's a smaller step down from head honcho at a big school to being the boss at a smaller school than it is to go from UM head coach to USC defensive coordinator or whatever.
January 30th, 2015 at 5:51 PM ^
Not Gonna happen. Hoke is going to have to take a couple steps back and show some competence before he'll be back in the P5.
January 30th, 2015 at 5:20 PM ^
Praise baby Jesus in a tuxedo shirt. The last thing Central needed was another *manball* hur-hur coach. Please Heeke, get your head out of your ass and hire Annese already.
On the flip side of that coin, I hope Brady enjoys his year on the beach and comes back strong next year.
January 30th, 2015 at 5:23 PM ^
It was definitely time for him to go, but I'll always be a fan of Coach Hoke.
January 30th, 2015 at 5:47 PM ^
say was that he would walk to Mt. Pleasant, a relatively short walk from Saline.
January 30th, 2015 at 6:14 PM ^
143.1 miles
January 30th, 2015 at 7:07 PM ^
Uphill
January 30th, 2015 at 8:28 PM ^
January 30th, 2015 at 10:16 PM ^
with no shoes.