CC - Survey data about RR

Submitted by SmithersJoe on

Last week, there was a thread about an alleged “MGoBubble” (thread ref)- and that led to a side discussion about the perceived level of support for Rich Rodriguez among various groups of people.  In my quest to find some real data (rather than forum posts or polls on Detnews), I came across an organization called Public Policy Polling that conducts state-level polls about voter perceptions of political candidates.  In May of 2010, they included questions about Rich Rodriguez for their Michigan poll.  They repeated those questions in their Michigan poll this past week.  The results, both from May and from December, are very interesting and may be surprising to some.

First of all, the usual caveats:

  • I am not affiliated in any way with Public Policy Polling (site)
  • I am not advocating one way or another anything about “CC” - I am trying to bring some accurate data (and new information) into the discussion
  • The survey does not go very deep - it simply asks some basic questions about favorable or unfavorable opinions about RR, and about allowing RR to continue or having him replaced
  • The survey does not claim to be representative of any particular subgroup other than the categories it specifically asks about. In other words, this poll is not representative of the UofM student body, nor of alumni. nor of former players, etc. It is representative of registered voters in Michigan who identify themselves as UofM fans, and of those fans as broken down by political ideology, party affiliation, age, ethnicity, and gender.
  • The May Michigan survey was conducted May 25-27, polled 890 people, and has a margin of error of +/- 3.3% (source)
  • The December Michigan survey was conducted December 3-6, polled 1224 people, and has a margin of error of +/- 2.8% (source)
  • One of the questions specifically asks whether the respondent is a fan of UofM, MSU, or neither. The questions about RR were only asked to those who identified themselves as UofM fans. This also means that the margin of error for questions about RR is higher, because the sample size is smaller.

May 2010 Results

First of all, let’s look at the May results, after a 3-9 and 5-7 season, and concurrent with the announcement by Michigan of the self-imposed penalties for the NCAA violations (UofM announced those penalties on May 25).

1. Do you have a favorable or unfavorable opinion of Rich Rodriguez? Based on the May results, it appears that there is a small group of people (20%) who had a favorable view of RR, and a slightly larger but still fairly small group of people (26%) who had an unfavorable view of RR. The majority (54%) were unsure.



The polling organization noted that this is a low favorable rating for one’s own coach. They compared it to the favorable rating that North Carolina fans have for their arch-rival Duke’s basketball coach (46%). For RR to have such a low favorable rating from his own fan base is “exceptionally bad,” according to the polling organization. (source)

2. Would you like to see Rich Rodriguez continue to be Michigan’s football coach this season or would you like to see him replaced? This is a very interesting result - a majority (51%) of people wanted RR to continue for the 2010 season, which implies that a majority of Michigan fans who were “Not sure” of their opinion on RR still wanted him to be the coach. In fact, there was a smaller percentage of fans who wanted him replaced (20%) than who had an unfavorable opinion of him (26%), which implies that even some of his detractors either wanted him to continue as coach this year or were unsure.

May subgroups

Digging a little bit deeper, although this poll doesn’t say anything specifically about UofM students, alumni, current players, or former players, it is possible to address whether age has anything to do with one’s positions on RR. A claim that I have heard on this blog is that RR’s detractors are probably older fans who are more comfortable with traditional power football, and not inclined to support a coach who brings a modern offensive philosophy to the table. In fact, this data appears to show just the opposite - the older the fan, the stronger the support for RR in May. It is the group of fans in the youngest category (18-29) who are the most polarized and who have the strongest negative views on RR.



Why is that? One possible explanation is that the idea of keeping something the same or making a change may be related to one’s political ideology - and that as of May 2010, having RR as the coach was already seen as the status quo. Assuming (the polling organization didn’t publish this specific data) that older fans tend to be conservative, and further assuming that conservatives prefer to keep the status quo, that might partially explain why older fans preferred to keep RR as coach back in May. In that sense, one could argue (although the data doesn’t necessarily say this) that RR was already accepted by those older fans as “a Michigan man” in the sense that his status as football coach was seen as the status quo.



One final interesting result from the May survey. There does appear to be a significant divide in support for RR based on ethnicity. The polling organization didn’t put forward any possible explanation for this ethnicity gap, and I honestly can’t come up with a rationale myself. It is what it is.

May survey full results

December results

A lot has happened in Michigan since May, both in football and in politics. Michigan elected a Republican governor by a large majority, and the UofM football team experienced a winning season under Coach Rodriguez, but suffered double-digit losses to MSU, Iowa, Wisconsin, and OSU.

So how did the events of the past 6 months affect RR’s favorable rating among UofM fans?



There remains a small core of people (20%, just as in May) who continue to have a favorable opinion of RR, while the group that has an unfavorable opinion has increased (from 26% in May to 38% in December), apparently almost completely from the “Not sure” camp in May (down from 54% in May to 42% in December). The surprising result, for me, is that the largest group (42%) is still “Not sure” about their opinion of RR.

Given that many “Not sure” fans in May still wanted RR to continue, and even some of the fans who viewed RR unfavorably in May didn't necessarily want him replaced, do fans want RR to continue as they look forward to 2011?



Again, there has been a shift in opinion away from a majority of people who wanted RR to continue back in May, to a statistically even split among those who want him to continue (32%), those who want him replaced (35%), and those who are unsure (33%). As in May, there may be some people who have an unfavorable view of RR but do not necessarily want him replaced (38% v. 35%).

Attempting to tease out where those unsure of their opinion of RR stand with respect to having him keep his job, I made a couple of admittedly invalid assumptions:

  • All those who want RR to continue have a favorable opinion of him
  • The difference between the larger group of those who want RR to continue v. the smaller group of those who have a favorable opinion of him consist completely of those who are unsure of their opinion of him. In other words, if 20% have a favorable opinion, but 32% want him to continue being the coach, that extra 12% of people who want to keep RR is coming from those who are unsure of their opinion of him.

Not sure of their opinion of RR but want him to continue


Again, this is probably a stretch in terms of interpreting the published data, but it appears that RR’s support for keeping his job among “neutral” UofM fans has eroded significantly.

December subgroups

Digging a little deeper, the May results suggested that the youngest fans (18-29) were the most strongly divided and had the highest percentage of people wanting to replace RR. By contrast, the oldest fans (65+) wanted to keep RR back in May, by a large margin. Has this age profile of support for RR changed in December?



This is a significant change. Not only has RR’s overall support eroded, his support among the “blue hairs” has completely flipped, where more of the oldest respondents (65+) want him replaced than want to keep him.

Respondents age 65+


What about the youngest respondents, who were the most divided back in May? It appears that they are now very unsure of whether they want RR to continue being Michigan's coach.

Respondents age 18-29


What about political ideology? Do even conservative fans, who theoretically would prefer to keep the status quo, still want to keep RR in his position?



Again, this shows almost a complete inversion of the results in May. Back in May, liberals tended to want to replace RR while conservatives tended to want to keep him; now in December, it’s the opposite.

And for the sake of completion, do we still see a dramatic gap in support for RR based on ethnicity?



Although there is still an ethnicity gap, it has narrowed significantly to the point where it appears that one either wants RR to continue, to be replaced, or is unsure - regardless of one’s ethnicity.

Finally, one additional question was asked in the December poll, about who the respondents would like to see as a replacement. No surprise about who leads the pack, but I should point out that Brady Hoke is running a distant third, behind even an “unnamed” candidate.

Conclusions

I’ll be the first to say that it is dangerous, even maliciously deceptive, to extrapolate into the future using data that is not intended to be used that way. So I believe it would be inappropriate to say anything like, “if current trends continue...”, or “another season like this one would probably result in favorable ratings of...”, or “if we lose to MSU and OSU again next year, the percentage of fans who would want to keep RR would probably be...The data makes no claim to predict the future - it is simply 2 snapshots in time that reveal how opinions have changed since May.

I hope this diary qualifies as “bringing new information” to the table, and also brings forward some reasonably accurate opinion survey data that we can talk about, rather than statements made in a vacuum claiming that “98% of former M football players still alive despise RR” or the idea that “players that played 40-70 years ago...are not a fan of the spread offense...” (thread ref)

Dec survey full results

Comments

jmblue

December 9th, 2010 at 7:27 PM ^

Also, the voting system here tends to promote a mob mentality, in which dissenting opinions have been systematically downvoted - to the point where many posters have become too discouraged to continue posting.  Only recently (after the PSU game, in particular), did it become "safe" to post anything remotely critical of the staff. 

ATLWolverine

December 9th, 2010 at 3:38 PM ^

consider who is more likely to be saying "This Big-East-spread-tomfoolery will never work in the Big Ten! We need 3 yards and a cloud of dust! Reliable and proven!" right now, a recent graduate of U of M who saw The Horror and that posts on a sports blog, or a 52-year-old M alum who "remembers the glory days"?

I would definitely expect (at the very least) less skew against Rodriguez among MGoBloggers, if not an outright significant bias in favor of RR compared to the general fanbase.

Seth9

December 9th, 2010 at 2:35 PM ^

Mgoblog's reader base slants heavily towards younger fans. And it is the older fans surveyed in PPP are the ones who wanted Rodriguez gone in comparatively high numbers. So it stands to reason that the Mgoblog-based survey will show a bias in favor of Rodriguez because older fans are underrepresented.

SmithersJoe

December 9th, 2010 at 7:22 PM ^

It may depend on when the MGoBlog survey was taken - it does seem like there was a shift in the age profile of those who wanted RR to continue v. those who want him to be replaced.  In particular, the 18-29 group seems very uncertain now (75% Not sure).

In some ways, I think this data provides DB with a strategic path, regardless of his decision.  There is a significant group of fans who are still unsure of their opinion of RR, and still unsure if they want him to continue or be replaced.  In terms of political polls, this is probably like "undecided voters" who still could be swayed either way.  This appears especially true for the younger fans.

It also points out some of the risks DB will take if he chooses to keep RR - some of the older fans have crystallized their opinions against RR, and DB may need to take some proactive steps to ameliorate that opposition.

Sometimes, looking at data doesn't just have to be about answering yes or no to the CC question itself - sometimes it can provide additional, useful avenues for discussion about process, strategy, and opportunity.

TBG

December 9th, 2010 at 2:23 PM ^

When I look at the December data, the 30-45 and 46-65 aren't as different as I would have assumed, having read countless "blue hairs are against RR" posts throughout the comments in this blog.  That doesn't really appear to be the case.    

DreadPower

December 9th, 2010 at 2:36 PM ^

All those who want RR to continue have a favorable opinion of him

I think you meant all those who have a favorable opinion of RR want him to continue?

Nice work though.

Kalamazoo Blue 87

December 9th, 2010 at 2:37 PM ^

Question for Mathlete and statisticians from an LSA major - is data at all meaningful from this universe?

"The survey of 1,224 Michigan voting residents — including 393 who identified themselves as Michigan fans — was conducted from Dec. 3-6."

What is the margin of error on a survey universe of just 393?

SmithersJoe

December 9th, 2010 at 2:45 PM ^

According to the polling organization, the margin of error for questions directed to the self-identified UofM fans is +/-4.9% (source).  I specifically state in the opening caveats that the margin of error for these particular questions is larger than for the overall poll itself (+/-2.8%) because of the smaller sample size.

Sample size is important, but how respondents are selected (randomly v. members of a forum or a newspaper website) is also important.

Blue in Yarmouth

December 9th, 2010 at 2:46 PM ^

is this poll restricted to UM fans or is anyone in the state a possible contributer? I might be wrong, but just because you live in Michigan doesn't mean you are a UM fan. There could be many included in the data that represent different fanbases.

At least polls on this blog include mainly UM fans.

Edit: Kalamazoo Blue verified my assumption. The vast majority polled were not even UM fans.

jackw8542

December 9th, 2010 at 3:14 PM ^

Many alums who I talk to about Michigan football are unaware of the Decimated Defense series or even that there was any particular problem with defensive recruiting the last few years with Coach Carr or that there was little experienced depth on offense for RR's first year or of the extent RR seems to care about his players or the high human being quality of his players.  To me, that is the main difference between the folks who identified themselves as Michigan fans in the survey and the people who read (and contribute) to this blog.  Those of us who read the blog (not to pat us on our collective backs) have a fuller appreciation of what RR has had to overcome and probably a better understanding of how close he is to overcoming it.

jmblue

December 9th, 2010 at 7:44 PM ^

In other words, posters here are more familiar with the various arguments (some might say rationalizations) used to justify keeping RR employed.   Whether those arguments are truly convincing to a person sitting on the fence is debatable.  It seems like every day, someone comes here and laments: "All my friends want RR gone, and I argue with them every day about our decimated defense." 

BiSB

December 9th, 2010 at 3:39 PM ^

There is a BIG difference between polling done in May and polling done in December.

Fans, I would expect, are much more likely to be supportive before the season.  Before the season, the question is essentially, "Rich Rodriguez will be the coach this year.  Do you want him to succeed?"  And a significant number of fans, regardless of concerns about the direction of the program, would want the COACH to succeed because that would almost invariably mean that the TEAM succeeded. 

By contrast, a December poll basically asks "If you could have anyone as your coach, who would it be, Rich Rodriguez or someone else?"  That will generate a very different set of responses.

It's the same way that presidential candidate approval ratings shoot through the roof after a successful election; some people may not have voted for the winning candidate, but they would nevertheless want that candidate to succeed because it means good things for America generally.

Hardware Sushi

December 9th, 2010 at 7:12 PM ^

The window in which people are polled has a significant effect on the way people respond because of the unconscious interpretation of the question being asked, which is an inherent flaw of opinion polls.

Not everyone, whether they realize it or not, is answering the literal question being asked. Thank you for articulating that common trait for polls of this nature.

SmithersJoe

December 9th, 2010 at 11:46 PM ^

Of course - the context of the poll does matter.  The questions surrounding Rich Rodriguez very likely do influence how respondents perceive the questions in the December poll.  That's also true of the poll in May, which as I pointed out in the OP, came coincidentally (?) just as UofM announced self-imposed sanctions for the NCAA violations.

Still, this poll did not come immediately after the OSU game, so hopefully that means opinions have stabilized (at least until the bowl game).  Again - this is just a couple of snapshots in time.

Section 1

December 9th, 2010 at 4:19 PM ^

sounding e-mail, asking who funded the poll.

I have to admit, the answer I got was not what I expected, but it does make sense.

They say that that they are not commissioned polls; they do them themselves, on their own, at their own expense.

My own thinking on this is that they want to keep up their polling "chops" in states where they get paying work from corporations, unions, the media, political parties, etc.  They also know that nothing gets attention quite like intercollegiate athletics; especially under these circumstances.  Polls like this one gets the firm name out in the public, and creates self-made stories for their favorite newspapers.  And I expect they use the data on a meta-basis, to check numbers and accuracy on other commissioned polls.

Still, in all of that, I always suspect the motives and the methods.  A poll is assuredly not going to drive any decision by David Brandon in any event.

As I mentioned in the message board thread, I'd really like to know how the polling sample was broken down in terms of where people get their news from.  Newspapers?  Radio?  Television?  The Web?  I have to believe that those are the great drivers of people's perceptions.

Raoul

December 9th, 2010 at 5:02 PM ^

There actually is a much simpler explanation for why PPP has done certain sports-related polls. As the OP noted, PPP mainly does state-level political polling. For its Michigan polls in May and this month, they included questions about Rodriguez as part of a larger survey.

Why Michigan football? Because Tom Jensen, the director of PPP, grew up in Ann Arbor. (Source: PPP "Who we are" page.) No complicated explanation needed--he just has an interest in Michigan football.

I don't think in general PPP does much sports-related polling. They have done some polling on college teams in North Carolina. Why? Because they're based in that state. It's as simple as that. The following is from the May poll:

A 20% favorability rating for a coach with his fan base is exceptionally bad. Most of our previous polling related to coaches has focused on Duke and North Carolina. 46% of UNC fans have a favorable opinion of Mike Krzyzewski. 27% of Duke fans have a favorable opinion of Roy Williams. So those coaches are more well respected by partisans of their biggest rivals than Rodriguez is by his own school's fans.

North Carolina came up again in the December poll in the comparison with Butch Davis:

To put Rodriguez’s numbers into perspective, North Carolina Coach Butch Davis sported a positive 41/20 approval spread on an October poll and 57% of the school’s fans wanted him to continue compared to only 14% who wanted him fired.Obviously the expectations are higher at Michigan, but Davis’ far superior numbers came despite his team posting the same record as the Wolverines this year and during the middle of an NCAA investigation that could land the program on probation.

Waters Demos

December 9th, 2010 at 8:17 PM ^

That is what the two sides of this "drama" have been doing.

The profit/hackney view is not "pro RR" or "anti-RR/pro-JH," but instead "anti-opinion re: RR-vis-a-vis-JH."  They just don't like opinions on the CC matter because there's nothing new to be said and it doesn't matter anyway, as there is only one decision-maker, who will decide soon enough.  Thus, if you're going to express an opinion (they'd prefer you not), at least give notice, and they'll have restraint.  They just want something new to talk about.  Thus, to accuse them of bias in any direction is misfounded. 

But that's not what the "HairyPalms/DahBlue" view is doing.  They dislike the same thing that profit/hackney dislike, i.e., redundancy.  The only difference is that they see profit/hackney as participating in/contributing to/exacerbating that redundancy through their reactions, whereas proft/hackney see themselves as the pushback to said redundancy. 

I don't mean to inject myself, or to put words in anyone's mouth.  Just the way I see it, and I could certainly be wrong.  Apologies if I've mischaracterized anyone's view.  Both sides have merit, as I understand them.  Neither side is substantively ridiculous or unreasonable. 

I go to the trouble of pointing it out because I think your fanbase is divided (which is natural, and, therefore, unproblematic), but with a great deal of unnecessary antagonism (which becomes problematic).  I think this small dialectic is in very small part representative of the greater schism.

profitgoblue

December 9th, 2010 at 9:42 PM ^

If I may, I'd like to leave with a few last points/comments.  (For the record, I'm okay with being negged if it is deserved.)

First, I am very comfortable with conceding the point of my posting in this thread.  I was operating under the assumption that MGoReaders were just as polarized as the public with respect to the coaching change issue, but that the MGoPoll was more reliable because the readership is more informed.  As such, under that assumption, I placed more value in the MGoPoll.  That was my only point in this thread.

Second, I do not believe I am operating within a so-called MGoBubble.  I believe I make very well-informed opinions after absorbing the arguments on all sides.  Of course I have opinions, and maybe I erred in looking only to MGoBlog for the information to form this opinion on the coaching change subject.  If the information is skewed to the "pro-Rodriguez" camp then maybe my opinion is skewed as well.

Third, my whole purpose in this MGoHijacking was to end all of the pointless speculation, rumor-mongering, and negative feel to MGoBlog that has come with all the coaching change discussion.  I purposely remained what, in my mind was "neutral" on the substance of the discussion.  Of course I have an opinion on the subject.  But I have purposely refrained from raising it.  My whole purpose was to quiet all of the what I considered to be harmful discussion on coaching change.  Maybe it got out of hand.

Fourth, for those that are interested, my thoughts are as follows:  I am truly okay with whatever direction the administration takes on the coaching position.  I have loved MIchigan football since I can remember and grew up watching Harbaugh.  Am I one of his supporters?  No.  Do I hope Rodriguez gets another year?  Yes.  But only because I want to see him succeed because I absolutely love the offense he runs.  After the first two losing seasons, I realized that the streaks and records that I always took for granted were over.  For me, it became more about the entertainment value of the game and the team.  And this year, to me, the excitement of watching the offense and Denard, in particular, far exceeded my cares about the win-loss record.  So, if Rodriguez goes, I will be sad because I thoroughly enjoy the spread offense and will be sad to see it go (if it goes).  I fear that moving on will mean losing Denard and that really upsets me.  In addition, I believe that moving on will be a big setback in the short-term.  Maybe better in the long term, but I do not see a change bringing about immediate success and that also makes me sad.  All that said, I will in no way support the team and university less than before.

Finally, I recognize that the course of action I chose with respect to the coaching change issue may not have been the best.  Stifling opinion may, in fact, be a ban-able offense.  For that I am sorry.  I get a lot of enjoyment from reading this blog and absorbing all of the information that it offers, especially being out of state and not having access to a lot of the information that many of you enjoy.  I am okay with sitting on the sidelines and simply reading the main page and avoiding the Board until January or until the coaching change issue passes.

Anyway, I've said enough.  I bid you adieu.

Nosce Te Ipsum

December 9th, 2010 at 10:09 PM ^

I've given reading the board for most of this week but came crawling back tonight. It's difficult to stay away from something that you love discussing/reading. There is no real point to my reply except to say that I really enjoyed your post. Even though it almost fell into the tl;dr category I'm glad I did. Well done.

Waters Demos

December 9th, 2010 at 11:02 PM ^

BTW, I like that shot of "the prince."  But I never knew who it was supposed to be for sure. 

Is it Lorenzo de Medici, or someone else?  I never thought it was actually NM himself. 

EDIT: According to wikipedia, it is NM.  But for some reason, I thought this was a common misunderstanding. 

Waters Demos

December 9th, 2010 at 10:14 PM ^

Do as you will; I think this would be an unfortunate course of action.  For example we could use you in the "Harbaugh's Wife" thread. 

Moreover, while it's said that there are too many attys in this world, it's also true that there aren't enough good ones, even here.  So also with nomothetai

And so on.

jmblue

December 9th, 2010 at 7:47 PM ^

My only comment is that I'd be leery of making the "conservatives support the status quo" assumption.  That obviously didn't apply to last month's election and I don't know it would apply here, either. 

SmithersJoe

December 9th, 2010 at 7:57 PM ^

True, there are several things I would be leery of with this data.  I had prepared the May portion of the diary in advance, and was trying to find some explanation for why older fans supported RR more strongly.  In theory, the definition of a conservative is one who wishes to conserve something.  Clearly, the December results (published today) showed a reversal both in terms of older supporters and conservative supporters, which poked a big hole in that little theory.  :-)

J.Swift

December 9th, 2010 at 11:01 PM ^

Fire RR, hire JH.  Or not.  RR has not done the job here.  But wait till next year!  RR's players love him.  But an awful lot of them decided to leave.  Our recruiting has been great!  Except when it's--Dorsey.  Or ________(fill in the blank).  Our offense was great this year!  Except when Denard Robinson was injured.   Our defense was our strength in 2007, our offense sucked; in 2010, our offense broke records, but so did our defense.

Personally, I don't think this Blog or the fanbase as a whole can take another year like the last two.  In September, the sun shines and our hearts beat high.  In October, our team gets exposed. 

The worst part for me is the Ohio State rivalry, which has lost all of its drama.  We know, to a certainty, that we will get kicked to the curb.  All we can look forward to is Tressell refusing to really pile on.  If only he would.  When Woody Hayes smashed us at the end of the Bump Elliott era, we got us a Bo Schembechler.  Alas, Tressell is too smart to let that happen.

Maizeandblue93

December 9th, 2010 at 11:50 PM ^

Well....the reasonable side of me says....don't be mpatient, give RR more time then the fact that we keep losing to that school from the south of us  says... lets go get another coach.....but then lets walk both of these ideas along......we are Michigan and that means something ...it means we win but not at the cost of being short tempered or like any other school.....we win because we have tradition and value.....we are not a fad....we are Michigan and that means that we must think things over and say to ourselves why not give RR one more year ...one year to show us what he had promised...but I am afraid it will take more than a year i.e the defense is no where near where it needs to be to beat "that school from down below"....I am afraid to say it but Denard  is not the guy that is going to get us there.......

Hire JH.....do we want to go back to the old days.......how any championships did Bo win for us...none....so are we asking for those days or do we think JH is that guy that make us competitive again......I dunnnoo....like the rest of you Blue fans...I am blue and confused.....so please don't mind my rant......

So keep singing the victor song.... till next time.....

 

Go Blue

SmithersJoe

December 10th, 2010 at 12:01 AM ^

I'm guessing you're in the age range of 18-29?  ;-)  If so, let me ask you a couple of things:

1. If DB chooses to keep RR, what kind of things would he need to say and do to convince you that it was the right choice?

2. If DB chooses not to keep RR, what kind of things would he need to say and do to convince you that it was the right choice?

3. If DB keeps RR and seems to be pandering to older fans in order to win back their support (again, I'm assuming you're a younger fan), would that make you less likely to support his decision?

Eye of the Tiger

December 10th, 2010 at 3:51 AM ^

None of this really matters.  DB is making the decision on his own, and not in response to the whims of a conflicted and divided fan base.  

Ok, I guess it does matter a little bit...it gets the pulse of the fan base and reiterates something I've thought for a while: there's no conclusion "fan demand" that forces DB to make a specific decision even if he doesn't want to.  

Personally, I think we should make the move for Harbaugh if he's available.  If not, stick it out with RR.  As for what I think will happen, it's the latter.  I think we're going to keep RR for at least one more year, and another after that if we make it to 9 wins.  But if we don't pass 7 wins in next year's regular season, brace yourselves for a change no matter what any polls say...

beenplumb

December 10th, 2010 at 10:12 AM ^

It'd be interesting to run some chi-square anaylses here and there to test for significant differences.

I wonder if this poll was performed as a random sample. Heck, you could probably stratify the sample randomly, too. I am intrigued.

dahblue

December 10th, 2010 at 11:33 AM ^

There is no way that keeping RR will "get this over with".  If he's kept (which just isn't going to happen, but I digress), he will be on the hottest seat in the country for another season.  Opposing coaches will crush us in recruiting by pointing out the hot seat.  Fans (only 20% of whom have a favorable opinion of the coach) will be unhappy.  We still won't have a functioning defense or special teams.  Given DB's "decision" delay, keeping RR would be the opposite of "getting this over with".  

SmithersJoe

December 10th, 2010 at 12:42 PM ^

I agree that RR will be under scrutiny next year if he continues; I disagree that fans would be unhappy, particularly younger fans.  I think the 75% "Not sure" for 18-29 year old group of fans gives DB the opportunity to convince them of his decision.  There's still a large percentage of essentially "undecided" fans (42%) who could be swayed either way.

The conventional wisdom is just what you said.  But this polling data suggests that there's some room to maneuver with the fans...assuming that fan opinions are even in the top 5 of DB's priorities with respect to his evaluation of the football program.