FB new Nutrition plan under Herbert is well received by players

Submitted by bostonsix on
Here's one reason to be optimistic about the 2018 season. It sounds like our players are not only getting stronger and bigger, but it seems their morale has improved too because of the new meal plan. Things can only get better for our Offensive line with Herbert, and Wariner and if that group gets better, this team could be scary good. https://www.google.com/amp/s/247sports.com/college/michigan/Article/Mic…
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bostonsix

April 15th, 2018 at 4:17 PM ^

It just felt different with Herbert, and the players responses from past strength and conditioning coaches. This actually proves the attention to detail and the willingness to go grocery shopping with the student athletes to improve their bodies and success on the field. Back when Harbaugh said everyone seemed weak and not strong enough at the end of the season, he goes and gets Herbert which is proving to be a solid hire.

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WestQuad

April 15th, 2018 at 11:53 AM ^

We had 30 years of Mike Gittleson and then RR brought in Brawlis who people thought was a savior and we lost a ton of games.  Since then we keep getting new S&C guys who are going to change the team.   S&C obviously makes a big difference, but I'm skeptical as to how much of a difference there is between one P5 program and another aside from a tolerance of PEDs. 

Motivation and "Ra! Ra!" are probably a factor of S&C, but how much difference is there really in the exercises or nutrition?   I'm asking.  There may be a difference I can't quantify.

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jblaze

April 15th, 2018 at 1:24 PM ^

Call me Debby Downer, but this is classic fluff. Take this quote:

"For Paye, that means breakfasts full of eggs, fruits, vegetables, waffles and protein, a diet that has energized him during classes and practices as well as changed his body."

What else does a football player eat for breakfast? Cereal? Was Tolbert like, "No eggs, fruit or whole grains for breakfast!"?

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Sione's Flow

April 15th, 2018 at 1:45 PM ^

The first paragraph states that KP wasn't a breakfast person and typically had a protein shake after lifting and a power bar before heading to classes. Which insinuates that Tolbert probably didn't have the players adhere to a meal plan. One thing Herbert is quoted as saying is "You can't outtrain a bad diet".

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Mongo

April 15th, 2018 at 3:58 PM ^

my son was a student manager under Fisch during the 2015 season and one of his duties was Tuesday check-in at SQ for breakfast. If players showed, they came at 9AM and grabbed a breakfast bar and left. He said it was a waste of time. However, he said the rest of the training table at the football facility was actually very good. Post game food was even better. Breakfast is the most important meal for every human on this earth. And proper nutriton post-workout is really key to get the full benefit from the workout. Hiring a real nutrionist is a good thing. Call me old school but the 6am workouts are an important change - makes the vampire generation go to bed earlier and eat a real meal to start the day. Hundreds of years of military research can't be wrong ... it is tougher on kids, I get that, but much better for their overall physical and mental development.

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CoverZero

April 15th, 2018 at 3:39 PM ^

This is fine, but every year we get a story about how the S&C program is improved.  Remember all the hype about Barwis?

Eat a Pizza and go to bed.

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FlexUM

April 16th, 2018 at 7:54 AM ^

Generally speaking I'd say you are right on and to be fair I think most realize that. The S&C position is an important one but it isn't nuclear physics (is that a thing?). Proper programming and nutrition isn't THAT difficult . Don't get me wrong 'm not saying his overall job is easy in fact the organization and execution may be one of the hardest of any of the coaches in the program. But the fact is unless you are monumentally screwing up programining, nutrition, and tne execution you shouldn't notice a massive difference from strength coach to strength coach. This is mostly "feel good" stuff...which is cool...but I'd actually be quite concerned if there was a huge, tangible difference. That would mean past S&C coach was highly incompetant which I do not believe was the case. He just may not have been the right fit at Michigan. 

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UMhoosier

April 16th, 2018 at 9:17 PM ^

to see the difference in players bodies and performance this year. You’re post is an oversimplification of s&c in general. It’s not rocket science, however there are many different systems used by strength coaches, each coach using their own individual flare. The Tolbert to Herbert difference will be felt next season.

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MGoStrength

April 15th, 2018 at 11:54 PM ^

The most important part of any nutrition plan is adherence.  If they didn't like the foods they were supposed to eat before, it will make it difficult to follow long term.

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