Hanzo

January 22nd, 2018 at 1:38 AM ^

Saban has an absolute strangle hold on the title as the best coach in the game and nobody could realistically question it.

As strong as Saban's grasp on #1 is, Meyer's is just as strong at #2.  The guy is a machine.  We like to joke how slimy he is but players can feel the success around him and I don't blame them for wanting to win with him.

I only take it personally if a player from Michigan chooses them, anyone else I understand

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coldnjl

January 22nd, 2018 at 5:59 AM ^

I think one can logically argue that Sabah isn't the best coach. He excels at college but That is simply because he buys the best assistants and gets his pick of the best players. He is good, but his horrible appearances in the NFL point to the fact that he isn't the X-O genius that people say he is.

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Perkis-Size Me

January 22nd, 2018 at 8:22 AM ^

Okay fine, so Saban didn't have a successful stint in the NFL, but I think it was implied here that we were talking about college. College and NFL are two very separate games. And if Saban isn't the best college coach, who else do you honestly think it is? Who else could it logically be? 

If Saban gets the best assistants, that's because he knows how to identify great coaching talent and he convinces them to come work for him. Mark of a great leader and coach. Yes Saban gets the recruits he wants. But so did Georgia under Richt. So did Butch Jones. Hoke got great talent for two years as well. But none of them could ever really do anything with that talent. Saban takes all that talent and makes it even better. Makes it all work together as one soul-less, unstoppable death machine. There are at least several schools Alabama plays every year that have at least comparable levels of talent (LSU, Auburn for instance) and Alabama has to win in a manner other than out-talenting the other team. And they usually still win anyway. 

Sure, he may not be the most creative X's and O's coach in the game. But he doesn't have to be in order to still be the greatest. How can you argue against six national titles when the next closest coach (Meyer) only has three? 

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Hanzo

January 22nd, 2018 at 10:23 AM ^

Yes we are only talking college football, and nobody is close to Saban right now.  Hiring assistants and recruiting the best players is a huge part of the job and just some of the things he excels at.  Urban is the only one right now in the same stratosphere

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DoubleB

January 22nd, 2018 at 9:09 PM ^

He was 15-17 with the Dolphins. The team won 4 games the year before he got there and 1 game the year after he left. 

He improved the team quite a bit and then the team went straight into the crapper the year after he left.

His NFL legacy is a lot more mixed than people remember because of the way he left.

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The Denarding

January 21st, 2018 at 10:27 PM ^

I’m just not as down on Michigan football as everyone else. I think everything they wanted to try or thought they could try this year went up in smoke and they couldn’t adjust for it. But the track record of the coaches involved is too good to assume otherwise. I’ve stuck with Beilein for the same reason and I think the results speak for themselves. Patience based on history is prudent especially around an outcome you don’t control.

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Hanzo

January 22nd, 2018 at 1:34 AM ^

I've heard from my Buckeye friends that Schiano is already good as gone but that they stole Washington States D coordinator to replace him.  

As for Day this could hurt their QB development with a brand new starter, hope it's true.

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LSAClassOf2000

January 22nd, 2018 at 9:33 AM ^

I haven't really heard a lot on the Schiano front since sometime last week, and at that point, a couple writers were throwing around a potential return to New Jersey for Schiano as the DC for the Giants. If he is essentially gone, it will be interesting to see where he ends up and why there was so much quiet about it. 

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buckeyejonross

January 22nd, 2018 at 9:17 AM ^

Even though Kevin Wilson is the primary OC and play-caller, it would be sad to see Day go, especially because it seemed like he was destined to be the main OC when Wilson moved on to a HC job somewhere. That being said, for now, Wilson is still the guy who stirs the drink on O, but the QBs liked Day, so losing him would certainly suck as that means Haskins would be on his third different QB coach in as many years. 

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Mpfnfu Ford

January 22nd, 2018 at 12:28 PM ^

If this means a team that has the perfect quarterback to run it decides to go full spread in the NFL. The success Chip Kelly briefly had with the Eagles without a stud QB should have caused a wave of college offensive coaches coming into the league as assistants and instead that wave was stopped by a steady diet of NFL nepotism hires. 

 

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