Jangalang

January 20th, 2018 at 1:36 AM ^

seems to be a little harsh. Most people have a major issue with what Simons has said and done over the past few days (and lack thereof over the past few years) and Izzo and MD have somewhat stood behind her while expressing regret for the situation and showing sympathy for the victims. I think they could have left Simons out of their statements completely and kept the focus on these young women that were victimized...but they didn't.

HailHail47

January 20th, 2018 at 8:36 AM ^

You can’t do anything to fix the problem if you don’t actually know there is a problem. This isn’t a Curley Spanier situation where they knew every detail 10 years ago and continued to allow Sandusky around. All Simon learned is that there was a Title IX investigation. Further, the MSU football and basketball programs have absolutely nothing to do with this scandal. Their coaches were asked controversial questions and they gave relatively non-controversial answers, you guys ( and the media) are trying to rope their revenue sports in with this scandal and it’s not right.

UMForLife

January 20th, 2018 at 9:07 AM ^

How do you know what Simon learned? This has been going on for years and all the powerful figures in the athletic department and the president didn't know anything. They just woke up this week and find out about these terrible things. If MSU Football and Basketball coaches had no involvement, then they could have avoided showing support.

Mr Miggle

January 20th, 2018 at 12:29 PM ^

“I have been told it is virtually impossible to stop a determined sexual predator and pedophile, that they will go to incomprehensible lengths to keep what they do in the shadows.

I found that a reprehensible statement to make. It's not just an excuse for her and the rest of her administration's failure. She wants people to believe that it applies to Nasser, despite no evidence having been offered to support that. He operated in the open because he knew that MSU and USA Gymnastics would always take his word over his accusers'.That they kept no records or ever forwarded complaints. That they didn't treat complaints of his abuse as a serious matter and that after enough incidents they were also complicit and it was in their best interests to keep it quiet.

The Izzo and Dantanio statements struck a nerve with me too. I'm not blaming them so much as their bosses. It was eerily similar to when Brandon was in trouble and he got our coaches to speak out in support of him.

Mr Miggle

January 20th, 2018 at 9:58 AM ^

to you as MSU did, they should have done much more. That they allowed Nasser to continue to abuse these girls is a serious failure on their part.

You can ignore a problem for many years. Have the children that report misconduct escorted back to the perpetrator to hear his side of the story rather than make records of the complaints. Or just brush them off because that's the easy thing to do.

You can't today plead ignorance and claim competency at your job. That ignorance was either willful or came as a result of being incompetent 

 

Bodogblog

January 20th, 2018 at 9:58 AM ^

She's responsible because she is required to have processes in place to ensure the people under the care of her staff are safe.  You cannot have dozens of people murdered over decades on your campus, find out there's a serial killer working in the administration, and then say "I didn't do anything wrong, I didn't know." Replace murder with assault and you have MSU.  She is a failure.

She may not have technically known, it doesn't matter.  The scale of incompetence is too great. Hollis too.  

She and the board have also clearly tried to ignore this in the hopes that it would go away.  This is a second and equally firable offense.  Hollis too. 

1VaBlue1

January 20th, 2018 at 7:03 AM ^

I take exception to this.  I don't care if this is MSU, PSU, FSU, or Timbuktu U - this is a fucked up situation that demands - screams for - accountability.

I don't think anyone believes for a hot minute that Simon knew Nassar was assualting her students (or anyone else).  Nor do I think she understood the magnitude of it when word came across her desk that a Title IX investigation was in progress.  She has staff to handle that stuff.

Where she unequivocably failed is in leadership.  When it became apparent that Klages had known about the girls' complaints, she should have acted immediately by bringing in outside police to investigate.  Hollis should have been on the chopping block immedaitely - he was Klages' direct supervisor.  Nassar should have been banned from seeing patients immediately, with termination pending investigation.  Everyone in Nassar's path that knew, first hand or second, about the girls' complaints should have been administratively suspended pending investigation.  The whole thing should have been reported to whatever police dept has outside jurisdiction (this is beyond what the campus police can handle, despite what they say).  The girls themselves - they're safety, physical and mental - should have become the entire focus.

Instead, she hired an outside law firm to figure out how best to protect the school.  At best, she acted late and with a lot less firmness than the situation required.  At worst, she covered up a lot of illegal activity - including sexual assault.

The AG needs to perform an exhaustive investigation beyond the simple "review" that the BoT asked for.  If he does, I believe there are criminal charges coming her way.  Sadly, I don't think he'll do it, and Simon, Hollis, Klages, and the others that knew without acting will go free.

LSAClassOf2000

January 20th, 2018 at 8:54 AM ^

Is Klages' biography still on the Michigan State athletics site? It was as of a few days ago and like everything else, it was an entire university trying to contirbute to one incredibly bad look in the face of all this. 

MGoPoe

January 21st, 2018 at 1:45 AM ^

I feel this is relevant to 1VaBlue1's comments.  A friend and an MSU alum forwarded a letter she wrote to the MSU community on 19Jan:

 

Dear MSU community member:

With several events related to the terrible crimes committed by former MSU physician Larry Nassar in the news, I want to describe what we are doing to address the issues arising from this matter and, more importantly, the steps we are taking to support his victims, create the safest campus environment possible, and do our utmost to prevent something such as this from ever happening again.

Today, the Board of Trustees wrote to Michigan State Attorney General Bill Schuette asking him to undertake a review of the events surrounding the Nassar matter. As the Board said, "We are making this request because we believe such a review is needed to answer questions that persist concerning MSU's handling of the Nassar situation."

The testimony of Nassar's victims this week made many of us, including me, listen to the survivors and the community in a different way. It is clear to the Board and me that a review by the Attorney General's Office can provide the answers people need. I hope this review will help the survivors and the entire MSU community heal and move forward.

Board Chair Brian Breslin and I watched the livestream of the first day of the victim impact statements, and Trustee Melanie Foster and I attended the afternoon session at court yesterday. It was heartbreaking to hear victims talk about how Nassar abused them and their trust. As I have said, I am truly sorry for the abuse Nassar's victims suffered, the pain it caused, and the pain it continues to cause. And I am sorry that a physician who called himself a Spartan so utterly betrayed everyone's trust and everything for which the university stands. The Board has joined me in expressing these sentiments, and I can assure you the Board and I are united in our commitment to help the survivors move forward with their lives.

Toward this end, the Board last month authorized creation of a $10-million fund to help survivors access counseling and mental health services, and last week we announced additional details of this initiative. The Healing Assistance Fund will be administered by Commonwealth Mediation and Conciliation, Inc., a Boston firm with extensive experience coordinating such services. MSU student-athletes and patients seen by Nassar at an MSU health clinic who were abused by him, as well as the parents of these victims, will be able to use the fund. Survivors and their parents also will be able to obtain reimbursement for out-of-pocket expenses incurred for such services before the creation of the fund. Simply put, our goal is to support survivors by making sure they get the counseling or mental health help they need, with minimal worry about cost. We have also retained the Minnesota Coalition Against Sexual Assault, which will provide referral services for Nassar's victims who do not yet have counselors and need to locate providers near them.

Our focus on survivors is necessary and appropriate, both now and in the future. But we also have taken a hard look at ourselves to learn from what happened. Since the fall of 2016, we have engaged external experts to comprehensively review various programs and recommend changes to strengthen our policies, procedures, and systems, including an examination of patient care and safety in our health clinics, our Title IX program, and how medical services are provided to student-athletes and others. In short, we have systematically reviewed and sought to improve every part of MSU's operations that were in any way connected to Nassar and his work, with the clear purpose of achieving the highest standards to protect students, athletes, and patients. Additional details are available on the MSU "Our Commitment" website:https://msu.edu/ourcommitment/.

I believe we have achieved much on this front over the last year and a half, although I also understand introducing new procedures does not change what happened to Nassar's victims or the pain they feel. I am deeply committed to the pursuit of best practices, with external input and transparency about the status of our progress. You can be confident that we will continue to take additional steps to improve our systems.

Apart from describing the work we are doing on behalf of survivors, I also want to update you on the significant developments taking place in the Nassar criminal and civil cases. Nassar has pleaded guilty in three criminal proceedings - federal child pornography charges, sexual assault cases in Ingham County, and sexual assault cases in Eaton County. He has been given the equivalent of a life sentence of 60 years for the pornography charges, the first of what I hope will be several lengthy prison sentences. This month, he will be sentenced separately in Ingham and Eaton counties. As I mentioned above, his victims are first being given the chance to make impact statements in court. This is happening now in Ingham County, where the proceedings are expected to run several days. The Eaton County court proceedings are scheduled for January 31. MSU and the MSU Police Department have worked and will continue to work with any law enforcement investigation looking into criminal matters involving Nassar. In particular, I want to thank the MSU Police and specifically the detectives in the Special Victims Unit, who spent countless hours helping bring Nassar to justice, as well as the FBI, the U.S. Attorney, and the Michigan Attorney General's Office.

While the criminal cases are nearing conclusion, the civil litigation against MSU, involving multiple cases filed on behalf of victims, has begun to move forward. Last Friday, the university's lawyers filed motions to dismiss plaintiffs' claims based on a number of arguments. Given some of the criticism leveled at MSU, I hope you will keep a few important points in mind.

First, MSU is entitled to, and its insurers require, that we will mount an appropriate defense of these cases. This means MSU's lawyers are making arguments in defense of the claims of civil liability. There is nothing extraordinary about such legal efforts - they are typical at this stage of civil litigation. Given Nassar's horrendous acts, these arguments can seem disrespectful to the victims. Please know that the defenses raised on MSU's behalf are in no way a reflection of our view of the survivors, for whom we have the utmost respect and sympathy, but rather represent, as the Board has said, our desire "to protect MSU's educational and research missions."

Second, depending on the court's rulings on the initial legal arguments, the parties may enter into a period of "discovery," in which each side will be able to review relevant documents and depose relevant witnesses to determine what happened and when. The entire pre-trial process can be time consuming, but it is often the standard means by which complex cases like this are decided on legal grounds or brought forward to trial.

So, as the litigation progresses in the months ahead, you will likely continue to hear a variety of allegations and accusations against the university. I ask for your patience as well as your understanding that MSU cannot litigate the cases in the media and that many public assertions may go unchallenged unless or until they are addressed in open court.

The Board hired external legal counsel to assist MSU in responding to the Nassar allegations and specifically instructed them that if they find any evidence during their ongoing engagement that anyone at MSU other than Nassar knew of Nassar's criminal behavior and did anything to conceal or facilitate it, then that evidence of criminal conduct will be reported immediately to appropriate law enforcement authorities and the Board will be informed.

In a recent letter to the Michigan State Attorney General, MSU's external counsel, including former U.S. Attorney Patrick Fitzgerald, underscored those clear instructions from the Board and stated that, ". . . the evidence will show that no MSU official believed that Nassar committed sexual abuse prior to newspaper reports in the summer of 2016."

The FBI and MSU Police Department also conducted a joint investigation earlier this year into whether any university employee engaged in criminal conduct relating to Nassar's actions; there were no charges filed. I have complete faith in the legal process and in the professionalism and dedication of local, state, and federal law enforcement.

We understand and respect the desire for information and details arising from the Nassar matter, which now spans 16 months, and we are committed to continuing to share whatever information we can with the MSU community and the public.

 

Sincerely,
Lou Anna K. Simon
Lou Anna K. Simon, PhD
President

 

YoOoBoMoLloRoHo

January 20th, 2018 at 9:54 AM ^

in two areas: 1) Insufficient culture of accountability and values after many years in the top seat. She has picked the people and endorsed the processes that led to an organization with a lack of proper controls and apparently poor quality management. 2) Abject bungling of a crisis. Rule #1 in proper crisis mananagement (see: Gerald Meyers’ landmark course at Ross B-School) is transparency with all stakeholders. She chose to hire outside counsel to scuttle the investigation and accepts a stance of “no written report”; she chose to say no one knew about the issues; she chose to keep Hollis, the head of Ortho and even Klages for an extended duration. Their are leadership principles that simply cannot be willfully violated and everyone just says, “Oh, well.” Leadership matters.

clarkiefromcanada

January 20th, 2018 at 12:26 PM ^

Anyone who has paid one cent to the state of Michigan in any form of taxation between 1998 (first known incident at MSU with Nassar identified to Klages) and this date has every right to be wholly indignant on several levels. Everyone else can just share in the repulsion, moral outrage and disdain at a complete lack of leadership, ethics and their god damned tone deaf approach re-victimizing these vulnerable young ladies.

First, it's kids, kids that were assaulted. That's wrong. The end.

Second, it sure looks like a lot of cover up/plausible denial work going on here. Since fcuking 1998.

Third, your government revenue keeps the doors open at MSU and pays Simon a ton, invisible Hollis, Klages pension, fake MSU investigations where apparently they didn't know until 2016 until they did etc. That's your state revenue paying for that.

Fourth, they praise Simon's leadership and gave her 150k last month (which she wisely denied and re-assigned),

Finally, this $10 million fund for the victims? Seriously?Bottom line, they have persisted in acting in a very questionable moral level. They have not been accountable. There appears some very real inconsistency vs. victim testimony. Haven't heard from Mark Hollis. Simon is apparently running the show and "playing it straight". Kind of like Red Lock, Bullough's suspension, Appling/Payne, Ski Masks/Nerd Rage...and this...the most horrible impacting more than 100 innocent little girls. 

This has less to do with our collective dislike of MSU in a lot of ways but more do with their leadership, their ethics and their accountability. Problematically, Michiganders not only have to deal with Simon's lack of leadership, her board's lack of accountability, invisible Hollis...they have to pay them while they watch this horror.

On all these levels and primarily moral, she needs to go as does Hollis. Maybe jail for Klages, who knows.

Brhino

January 20th, 2018 at 1:44 AM ^

"I hope that the right person was convicted"

What in the shit is that supposed to be?  Is Izzo seriously expressing doubt that they got the right guy?  I can't believe he would say that but I don't know how else to interpret that statement.

1WhoStayed

January 20th, 2018 at 2:54 AM ^

I thought that was the strangest part of his statement. Is he referring to the child porn? That wouldn't make sense since it has nothing to do with MSU. Nassar's position all along has been "Yes - I did those things to heal them". He didn't deny any of it. So WTF was Izzo talking about?

And by the way, the gymnastics coach is the most disgusting figure in this story. "I'd let my grandkids go to Nassar". Really? 

On second thought, maybe it's the MSU review board that decided it's OK for any grown man (MD or not) to touch a young lady that way without a nurse/parent present...

umchicago

January 20th, 2018 at 12:18 PM ^

that has bothered me.  a number of trainers and doctors at msu has said "the procedures" that nassar used were not improper. really?  where did they learn these procedures? nassar himself?  because he is an expert, they took it as gospel?  did all the people in the know bother to ask someone outside of msu for an opinion. like trainers at UM, IU or OSU?

talk about problems solving 101.  get some advice/opinion from others outside the organization.

it's either a complete failure at a cover up, just plain incompetence or a combination of both.

UMVAFAN

January 20th, 2018 at 7:37 AM ^

I think he's being sarcastic by saying this, which is totally tone deaf. He's getting questions about Simon and thinking that everyone is acting as if she molested all those girls with the calls for her head. Since the questions are about Simon rather than Nasser, he's making a snarky, tone deaf comment. Did we get the right person???

MGoBlue7523

January 20th, 2018 at 2:11 AM ^

I'm very surprised at the lack of heat Mark Hollis has received during this scandal...He's the AD and reports to Simon. Combine this with MSU Football's sexual assault issues in 2016-17 and it certainly seems that he has been running a very loose ship in East Lansing.

Djrobinson007

January 20th, 2018 at 2:28 AM ^

This just makes me pray their basketball program goes in the shitter. My hate for MSU continues to grow...

Putt4Birdie

January 20th, 2018 at 6:10 AM ^

She brings the whole rotten stinking ship down with her. I.E " Well everyone is guilty of something, I know all about Izzo's Bagmen and how they operate, I could tell you about all the other athletes that got away with crimes that were never reported to police, I could show you the contract Dantonio signed in blood with the Devil himself! If I'm going down I'm taking all you sons a bitches with me!".

HateSparty

January 20th, 2018 at 7:24 AM ^

They are all in bed together. Hollis, Izzo, Dantonio and Simon have an unusually tight coordinated love fest. They each have their skeletons and history will eventually show this.

Don

January 20th, 2018 at 7:42 AM ^

The only thing I can guess is that Izzo is implying the same excuse that Klages pushed—that somebody other than Nassar put the child porn images on Nassar's computer.

I don't hold it against Izzo for not openly calling for Simon's dismissal, but trying to cast doubt on Nassar's guilt is nothing less than a bizarre doubling down at this point.

Jibbroni

January 20th, 2018 at 8:03 AM ^

Its like anywhere else. People like Izzo and Dantonio have to show support. They were complicit in letting their own teams sexual misconduct go unchecked. If they threw her to the wolves, she would open up on them with whatever is buried under Hollis' desk. Hollis, by the way, the no show, is prepping his legal team for when he becomes the fall guy after this goes sideways for the coaches.

justthinking

January 20th, 2018 at 8:15 AM ^

On the greatest serial child/student rape case in the history of sports, and maybe history in general. I cannot believe what I continue to hear, from the survivors themselves - and from those “in power” at that university from the top down. The one underlying theme I keep hearing from these survivors testimonies is that EVERY adult failed to listen to them - including many of their own parents. Nobody listened. Nobody took responsibility to protect all of them and stop this. The silence at MSU is deafening and when any of them do talk it is sickening. They are putting their very replaceable jobs and reputations, and that university, above over 120 victims that they very directly and systemically failed, repeatedly, over twenty freaking years. Burn it with fire.