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November 12th, 2017 at 12:11 PM ^

Who is the only person to be the head coach at Tennessee and Michigan.

In 20 years that is going to be one of the hardest trivia questions anyone could ever answer

In all seriousness, I️ hope Hoke pulls an Ogeron. Win out, make it tough for them to pass you over.

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stephenrjking

November 12th, 2017 at 4:00 PM ^

Never happen. Hoke is a perfect interim coach because he's done all this before, but he is not even remotely a candidate for the full-time job. So Tennessee can look around and it's not an insult to the guy coaching the team. Even if Hoke wins the last two games everyone knows someone else is coming in. In fact, this is so obvious that people like me were calling this transition before the season started, though the depth of Tennessee's collapse still surprises a bit.

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ReCruton

November 12th, 2017 at 12:11 PM ^

I mean, i gotta wish Brady Hoke the best. He was incompetent as our head coach, but he seems like a genuinely good guy, and I hope he succeeds in the interim period

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Mpfnfu Ford

November 12th, 2017 at 12:59 PM ^

You hear that a lot in coaching searches, that you want someone with "proven experience" even if its at lower levels, usually because your last coach was a former coordinator who bombed at handling the additional responsibility of head coach.

But the thing about Butch that became really obvious early on is that he just could not withsand the pressure of coaching at program with a top 20 fanbase in terms of expectation and how close they follow the team. He bristled at the local media over the dumbest stuff, he coached like he was trying to make diamonds out of a coal buttplug, and never seemed comfortable there. It was baffling in particular to see Tennessee's offenses under him, because I remember his Cincinnati teams doing some bonkers wild stuff when he was coach there. I guess he thought some of those wild trick plays and extreme spread stuff he did there "can't work in the SEC" so he went super conservative.

I could see him doing well at another Cincinnati level job if he gets the chance. But the guy was just never cut out to coach at a school like Tennessee.

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M-Dog

November 12th, 2017 at 1:14 PM ^

To your point, he did seem to become a different guy once he got to Tennessee.  So did McElwain at Florida.  

Former "offense" guys that make it to the big time, then hire DeBord and Nuss as their OCs have lost connection to what got them there. 

Strange.  Maybe they thought they could just rely on recruiting talent to carry them.  Who knows?

Maybe Hoke can do the same thing in reverse, and do something out of character and wildly successful for him at Tennessee.

 

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Don

November 12th, 2017 at 1:26 PM ^

His 3-yr stints at CMU and Cincy were pretty successful, but he was the immediate successor to Brian Kelly at both places, and didn't stay long enough to really put his own stamp on those programs. Kelly might be a complete dick, but he's got a proven record as a successful coach at multiple programs, and Jones might have been living off of Kelly's efforts.

Jones marginally improved on Dooley's record at Tennessee during his first four seasons, but could never beat good teams consistently and things went off the rails this season.

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