Michigan wins over Top-10 teams all-time
Just a list I wanted to put out there since we finally kicked that door down again last season by getting one.
Some stats-
- 62 wins all-time over AP Top-10 teams
- Most success has been against #8. Michigan is 11-6 against #8.
- 62-80-6 against AP Top-10 teams overall
- 33-39-1 when ranked in the Top-10 vs Top-10 opponents
List-
| Date | Opponent | Result | Bowl |
| 11/25/1939 | vs #6 Ohio State | W 21-14 | |
| 11/16/1940 | vs #10 Northwestern | W 20-13 | |
| 11/14/1942 | at #4 Notre Dame | W 32-20 | |
| 10/28/1944 | vs #10 Purdue | W 40-14 | |
| 11/11/1944 | vs #10 Illinois | W 14-0 | |
| 11/24/1945 | vs #7 Ohio State | W 7-3 | |
| 1/1/1948 | #8 USC | W 49-0 | Rose Bowl |
| 10/16/1948 | vs #3 Northwestern | W 28-0 | |
| 10/22/1949 | vs #3 Minnesota | W 14-7 | |
| 11/25/1950 | at #8 Ohio State | W 9-3 | |
| 1/1/1951 | #5 California | W 14-6 | Rose Bowl |
| 11/15/1952 | vs #10 Purdue | W 21-10 | |
| 10/9/1954 | vs #4 Iowa | W 14-13 | |
| 10/23/1954 | vs #8 Minnesota | W 34-0 | |
| 10/8/1955 | vs #6 Army West Point | W 26-2 | |
| 11/3/1956 | at #7 Iowa | W 17-14 | |
| 9/30/1961 | vs #9 UCLA | W 29-6 | |
| 10/6/1962 | vs #10 Army West Point | W 17-7 | |
| 11/9/1963 | at #2 Illinois | W 14-8 | |
| 10/10/1964 | at #9 Michigan State | W 17-10 | |
| 11/21/1964 | at #7 Ohio State | W 10-0 | |
| 10/11/1969 | vs #9 Purdue | W 31-20 | |
| 11/22/1969 | vs #1 Ohio State | W 24-12 | |
| 9/23/1972 | at #6 UCLA | W 26-9 | |
| 11/19/1977 | vs #4 Ohio State | W 14-6 | |
| 11/22/1980 | at #5 Ohio State | W 9-3 | |
| 9/19/1981 | vs #1 Notre Dame | W 25-7 | |
| 11/19/1983 | vs #10 Ohio State | W 24-21 | |
| 9/8/1984 | vs #1 Miami | W 22-14 | |
| 1/1/1986 | #8 Nebraska | W 27-23 | Fiesta Bowl |
| 10/18/1986 | vs #8 Iowa | W 20-17 | |
| 11/22/1986 | at #7 Ohio State | W 26-24 | |
| 1/2/1989 | #5 USC | W 22-14 | Rose Bowl |
| 11/11/1989 | at #8 Illinois | W 24-10 | |
| 9/14/1991 | vs #7 Notre Dame | W 24-14 | |
| 10/5/1991 | at #9 Iowa | W 43-24 | |
| 1/1/1993 | #9 Washington | W 38-31 | Rose Bowl |
| 10/16/1993 | at #7 Penn State | W 21-13 | |
| 11/20/1993 | vs #5 Ohio State | W 28-0 | |
| 9/10/1994 | at #3 Notre Dame | W 26-24 | |
| 12/30/1994 | #10 Colorado State | W 24-14 | Holiday Bowl |
| 11/25/1995 | vs #2 Ohio State | W 31-23 | |
| 9/14/1996 | at #5 Colorado | W 20-13 | |
| 11/23/1996 | at #2 Ohio State | W 13-9 | |
| 9/13/1997 | vs #8 Colorado | W 27-3 | |
| 11/8/1997 | at #2 Penn State | W 34-8 | |
| 11/22/1997 | vs #4 Ohio State | W 20-14 | |
| 1/1/1998 | #8 Washington State | W 21-16 | Rose Bowl |
| 11/7/1998 | vs #9 Penn State | W 27-0 | |
| 11/14/1998 | vs #8 Wisconsin | W 27-10 | |
| 11/13/1999 | at #6 Penn State | W 31-27 | |
| 1/1/2000 | #5 Alabama | W 35-34 OT | Orange Bowl |
| 10/25/2003 | vs #10 Purdue | W 31-3 | |
| 11/1/2003 | at #9 Michigan State | W 27-20 | |
| 11/22/2003 | vs #4 Ohio State | W 35-21 | |
| 10/15/2005 | vs #8 Penn State | W 27-25 | |
| 9/16/2006 | at #2 Notre Dame | W 47-21 | |
| 9/22/2007 | vs #10 Penn State | W 14-9 | |
| 1/1/2008 | #9 Florida | W 41-35 | Capital One Bowl |
| 9/27/2008 | vs #9 Wisconsin | W 27-25 | |
| 10/1/2016 | vs #8 Wisconsin | W 14-7 |
The closest was #13 Northwestern in 2015.
Prior to Harbaugh, #14 ND in 2013.
AP #17
BCS #11
They got shit on by Clemson in that ACC title game which dropped them down really far in the poll.
11Thats a long time to suck for a historical program like Michigan.
But look at it the other way - most football programs haven't had a run of success as long as our recent bad years.
Did you record which team we had the best record against when they were ranked in the top 10?
Not necessarily.
No business being #8 in 2012 against #2 Alabama. Just for TV sake.
The record against #1 is what is tying down that number. Take away games against #1 and the record is 33-29.
When we are ranked in the Top-10...
- 20-12-4 (.611) vs OSU
- 21-10 (.677) vs MSU
- 22-7 (.759) vs MINN
- 22-5-2 (.793) vs ILL
Chuckled when I saw them on the list with OSU, MSU, and Minn.
21-12-4 vs Ohio State
22-8 vs Minnesota
23-5-2 against Illinois
Found this but it is only 1936-2010. This is teams vs teams that were ranked top 10 at the time of the game. Not exactly the same but makes this seem not as awful as it looks.
1. USC: 76-74-7 (0.50637)
2. Oklahoma: 69-71-4 (0.49306)
3. Notre Dame: 80-87-6 (0.47977)
4. Michigan: 70-77-6 (0.47712)
5. Texas: 65-75-4 (0.46528)
6. Ohio State: 59-71-9 (0.45683)
7. Florida State: 44-55-3 (0.44608)
8. Miami (FL): 52-66-1 (0.44118)
9. Alabama: 59-75-0 (0.44030)
10. UCLA: 50-77-5 (0.39773)
Data is from CFBTrivia which appears to be no longer maintained so I can't update it so I'm sure it's a bit different (or a lot different for Alabama).
Scheduling this for an accuracy check because there's been two errors.
The difference between your list and the original list is:
1. It's complete
2. It includes top 10 teams from the coaches poll.
A list of records vs top 10 AP teams as of now:
Boise St. (4-2-0)--0.66667
USC (78-76-6)--0.50625
Alabama (73-73-1)--0.50000
Oklahoma (72-77-4)--0.48366
Notre Dame (79-90-6)--0.46857
Ohio St. (60-69-9)--0.46739
Florida St. (50-59-3)--0.45982
Michigan (69-84-6)--0.45283
Texas (64-81-4)--0.44295
Miami (FL) (50-66-1)--0.43162
Florida (57-90-4)--0.39073
Penn St. (43-72-1)--0.37500
LSU (52-89-4)--0.37241
UCLA (45-80-5)--0.36538
Auburn (54-95-3)--0.36513
Michigan St. (48-87-2)--0.35766
Georgia (37-71-3)--0.34685
South Fla. (3-6-0)--0.33333
Tennessee (47-101-7)--0.32581
Nebraska (42-88-1)--0.32443
Clemson (23-48-0)--0.32394
Houston (20-44-4)--0.32353
Army (15-40-5)--0.29167
Georgia Tech (33-86-2)--0.28099
Mississippi (32-82-0)--0.28070
Washington (31-86-4)--0.27273
Stanford (32-91-5)--0.26953
Oregon (25-71-2)--0.26531
Arizona (18-55-1)--0.25000
Purdue (32-100-3)--0.24815
Texas A&M (28-87-2)--0.24786
Pittsburgh (28-92-5)--0.24400
Iowa (35-112-1)--0.23986
TCU (23-79-4)--0.23585
Arizona St. (13-44-0)--0.22807
Arkansas (30-104-2)--0.22794
Colorado (25-95-3)--0.21545
Navy (20-78-3)--0.21287
Wisconsin (30-117-4)--0.21192
Louisville (6-24-1)--0.20968
Illinois (26-106-4)--0.20588
Minnesota (23-105-4)--0.18939
Utah (5-22-0)--0.18519
N.C. State (12-55-1)--0.18382
Baylor (19-91-2)--0.17857
Oregon St. (17-81-1)--0.17677
BYU (4-21-1)--0.17308
Boston College (12-58-0)--0.17143
North Carolina (13-65-1)--0.17089
SMU (13-74-5)--0.16848
Duke (10-58-4)--0.16667
Northwestern (21-112-2)--0.16296
Texas Tech (16-83-0)--0.16162
Missouri (22-117-0)--0.15827
Virginia Tech (9-49-0)--0.15517
Air Force (5-35-3)--0.15116
Hawaii (3-17-0)--0.15000
Syracuse (12-71-1)--0.14881
Maryland (12-69-0)--0.14815
Southern Mississippi (5-32-1)--0.14474
Mississippi St. (16-100-2)--0.14407
Oklahoma St. (17-104-1)--0.14344
Appalachian St. (1-6-0)--0.14286
Nevada (1-6-0)--0.14286
Toledo (1-6-0)--0.14286
West Virginia (10-64-1)--0.14000
South Carolina (13-81-0)--0.13830
Rice (12-83-2)--0.13402
Miami (OH) (2-13-0)--0.13333
Tulane (10-68-1)--0.13291
UCF (2-14-0)--0.12500
San Jose St. (3-21-0)--0.12500
Memphis (3-29-2)--0.11765
Washington St. (9-68-0)--0.11688
Colorado St. (3-23-0)--0.11538
Kentucky (13-104-1)--0.11441
UNLV (1-8-0)--0.11111
Marshall (1-8-0)--0.11111
Kansas (11-101-2)--0.10526
Virginia (5-49-1)--0.10000
Iowa St. (8-98-2)--0.08333
California (8-102-2)--0.08036
Tulsa (3-36-0)--0.07692
Fresno St. (1-12-0)--0.07692
La.-Monroe (1-13-0)--0.07143
UTEP (1-14-0)--0.06667
Rutgers (2-35-1)--0.06579
East Carolina (2-29-0)--0.06452
Kansas St. (7-107-0)--0.06140
New Mexico (1-16-0)--0.05882
Cincinnati (2-35-0)--0.05405
Indiana (5-96-1)--0.05392
Vanderbilt (5-105-0)--0.04545
Temple (1-42-0)--0.02326
Wake Forest (1-58-0)--0.01695
Ball St. (0-6-0)--0.00000
New Mexico St. (0-14-0)--0.00000
Bowling Green (0-10-0)--0.00000
Buffalo (0-5-0)--0.00000
Utah St. (0-25-0)--0.00000
Western Ky. (0-6-0)--0.00000
Northern Illinois (0-13-0)--0.00000
Western Mich. (0-12-0)--0.00000
Central Mich. (0-5-0)--0.00000
Akron (0-4-0)--0.00000
Arkansas St. (0-10-0)--0.00000
Ohio (0-8-0)--0.00000
Massachusetts (0-2-0)--0.00000
Middle Tenn. St. (0-8-0)--0.00000
San Diego St. (0-21-0)--0.00000
Louisiana Tech (0-26-0)--0.00000
Kent St. (0-6-0)--0.00000
Texas St.-San Marcos (0-2-0)--0.00000
Idaho (0-14-0)--0.00000
FIU (0-3-0)--0.00000
Wyoming (0-29-0)--0.00000
UL Lafayette (0-12-0)--0.00000
Georgia State (0-3-0)--0.00000
Georgia Southern (0-10-0)--0.00000
UAB (0-11-0)--0.00000
Fla. Atlantic (0-5-0)--0.00000
Troy (0-9-0)--0.00000
Eastern Mich. (0-4-0)--0.00000
UConn (0-9-0)--0.00000
North Texas (0-24-0)--0.00000
Missing a couple bowl tags, tsk tsk!
Fun topic, but I think you're missing at least a couple of wins.
From 1996: #11 UM 20 @ #5 Colorado 13
From 2005: UM 27 vs. #8 PSU 25
Lloyd Carr was supposedly 19-8 against top 10 teams, which might be the most impressive line on his resume aside from (or maybe including) the 1997 national title.
WTF? That was completely missing from my document. Now I'm gonna go and double check the whole thing in case I'm not missing anything else.
An interesting site with info about head-to-head results is this one:
I'm working on something similar.
Amazing fact that no one's mentioned: in meetings where both teams are ranked in The Game, the record stands at 20-20-4.
Even more amazing is that there have only been 9 meetings ever where both teams were unranked since the AP poll began in 1936.
OSU has faced Michigan as an unranked team 14 times and Michigan has faced OSU while unranked 14 times.
Good Stuff WD. Do you have a list of all the losses vs the Top 10? That would be an interesting list to look at.
I'm curious how this list would change if you looked at season's ending ranking. 2008 Wisconsin turned out to be not-that-good, and that was a September game.
Michigan is 39-114-5
The main issue with this method is teams you beat tend to drop in the polls.
vs #10 Purdue
Woah.
2 wins over top ten teams in a season seems to be about the best you can expect to average over multiple seasons. Even then, you're also going to lose some. If 62-80-6 is close to accurate, it will likely take Michigan more than a decade to get to .500.
Michigan is 69-84-6 against AP top 10 teams.
Michigan is 13-6 vs AP #8 teams, which is the top percentage vs top 10 teams.
Michigan is 34-40-4 as an AP top 10 team vs the same.
You are missing:
a victory over #8 Penn in 1940
A victory over #5 Northwestern in 1941
A victory over #9 Wisconsin in 1947
etc...
I built my SuperGuide using Bentley and other records but this is rather ridiculous how off they are on something as important as Football.
Bentley is who provides MGoBlue with the official record books and they are also without this stuff.
What an eye-opening mess. And here I thought the AD's Football books could be considered 90% accurate.
Schools get it mostly correct, but really don't spend a lot of time on rankings. I see some messy stuff in media guides. Recording "rankings" is not their number one priority and is often done after the fact.