[LOCKED] OT: USC Linebacker *ALLEGEDLY* Rapes The Same Woman Twice, And Then Snapchats It To Her Former Boyfriend
Not all the details released yet. Story is developing.
http://deadspin.com/report-usc-football-player-raped-woman-twice-snapch…
[ED-BiSB: Comments locked for reasons that should be obvious, but which do not seem to be landing yet. Victim-blaming will not be tolerated, either here or in polite society. On a blog, the repercussions are trivial. In the real world, it serves to make life worse for the maaaaaany women affected by rape and serves as an impediment to actually reducing the problem, not to mention making the victim-blamer look like an ass. Knock it the hell off.]
September 1st, 2016 at 9:50 PM ^
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September 1st, 2016 at 10:32 PM ^
Even worse, it's deadspin citing TMZ
September 2nd, 2016 at 1:21 AM ^
September 1st, 2016 at 10:36 PM ^
The sheer absurdity is TMZ levels for sure tho.
She parties in LA, gets raped allegedly, then parties with the same guy in Utah? 1st wtf.
2nd wtf, Masina sent a snapchat of it to her ex-bf at Arizona?
Savage. Like extremely disturbing levels of savagery I've never heard of before...Jesus.
Headscratching all the way around on this one. Hopefully that video is conclusive for the victim's sake or this is going to be one crazy case...
September 1st, 2016 at 10:41 PM ^
you really enjoy the cliche "in" words of 2016...
I'm surprised you didn't figure out how to find a way to use "LIT" after two versions of savage in two sentences.
September 1st, 2016 at 11:06 PM ^
September 2nd, 2016 at 2:11 AM ^
The polls, most, no, all of them.
September 2nd, 2016 at 6:33 AM ^
End a meme. Start a meme. Every action has an equal and opposite reaction.
September 1st, 2016 at 10:58 PM ^
It doesn't really matter what the circumstances were that she was at the same party as him the second time, that didn't give him the right to rape her again while she was passed out.
September 1st, 2016 at 11:29 PM ^
I don't think that is the source of the confusion.
September 1st, 2016 at 11:33 PM ^
or for the defendant's sake if she's making this shit up... No need to jump the gun on this one either way.
September 2nd, 2016 at 12:09 AM ^
I won't say it's definitely the case here, but going back immediatley after sexual assault happens A TON. Think of it more like a freshman coming to campus, drinking for the first time ever (by having just one beer), and getting violently ill immediately (because they're actually allergic to almost all forms of alcholic beverages). The chances that freshman drinks the very next night (or the next time they're invited out) is much, much higher than 0% although "they should've know better" or "what happened was clearly fucked up." There's more too (e.g., the dissonance created by finding out a revered person is "evil", trying to control the situation by repeating and thereby redefining it, etc), but thinking of the situation like a person putting their hand in a wood chipper and then putting the other hand in the next day is far from the reality of how our brains work in these situations. Your perspective ignores the devastating effects of trauma. But, to your benefit, it makes you feel safer if the affected person was not being cognitively pristine in their decision-making shortly after a traumatic experience while you, sitting at home watching from the outside and after the fact, can say you'd know better.
September 2nd, 2016 at 6:50 AM ^
Or share where one could find more info on this? This is interesting and I didn't know this...
I didn't necessarily view it as the wood chipper example, but I didn't know it had something to do with the braiin. As someone who has suffered from despression it helped me most when I learned that it was something I couldn't control...an imbalance in the brain. So I started learning more and more about the brain.
That has nothing to do with rape...but it just explains my interest in the brain and how it works.
...I've always assumed victims go back to humanize their attacker or try and take control over the situation. You mentioned this, but I assumed it was the primary reason. I understand that rationale because people do it all the time in different aspects of life. It also has a sense of competitiveness to it that the victim may feel a need to "win."
However, the whole beer example I'd like to learn more about. I'm not going to comment on rape in this example, but I feel like if I had that bad of a reaction to a beer...I wouldn't drink beer for awhile. If I did, I'd be very cautious and in control...taking little sips at a time to see if it was a bad beer or something more. I don't see me working hard and making an effort to go do it again - even as a college freshman who has never drank.
September 2nd, 2016 at 7:59 AM ^
I'm happy that reading up on depression helped you out. That's wonderful to hear. As for helpful sources, Rebecca Campbell (from State, unfortunately) speaks on this often. I'm not in a world where I need to cite ruthlessly, so I can't point you to a book/article/presentation of hers from memory. But if you look her up you'll find one. Also, "Trauma and Recovery" by Judith Herman does a great job of addressing the universality of trauma (i.e., sexual assault survivors exhibit behavior and thoughts similar to soldiers with PTSD, similar to etc etc). And I just made up the beer hypothetical, so I don't know if you'll find that specific discussion anywhere.
As to the "take sips" comment. It's interesting. It makes perfect sense to everyone, unless we're talking about sexual assault. Because the "sips" approach in these cases leads to (1) likely being assaulted again (especially if the "server" or person you are drinking with is a sociopath, way stronger than you, and demands/manipulates you to drink more) (2) a drawn out testing period aka a dating/domestic violence situation (etc etc) . . . all of which society frowns upon because "they should know better." And slightly related to that point, you can even see it in the way we speak. Brian is beyond excellent, but over the years he can constantly joke about "rappists" (rappers) with the board coasting along, but if he were to refer to the neggers on our board (people who constantly neg everything and everyone) that comment would break the board. We have a long way to go before we realize "rape culture" is a thing, and even nice people condone or promote it unintentionally. I certainly did, and probably still do somehow. And I only refer to Brian because he's the only person we both know we know. Again, I hold him in high esteem, and love this site.
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Thanks! The only thing I would emphasize, although I know you didn't mean it this way, is that "new information" may also be centuries old information (literally) that is finally being shared/internalized.
September 1st, 2016 at 9:50 PM ^
Moms, help, allegedly.
September 1st, 2016 at 9:52 PM ^
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September 1st, 2016 at 9:54 PM ^
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September 1st, 2016 at 9:55 PM ^
Not good. Something is off about the detail that after the first 'attack', the victim was partying with this D-bag? Why even go near him again?
September 1st, 2016 at 10:03 PM ^
[Mod ED: Comment deleted. You are an awful human]
September 1st, 2016 at 10:04 PM ^
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September 2nd, 2016 at 12:03 AM ^
While I agree with your sentiment, I read the response by "A Fan in Fargo" as some sort of sarcasm based on what "coldnjl" said. I could be wrong, but that's what I assumed he was trying to say. If not, he is bad and should feel bad.
September 2nd, 2016 at 8:30 AM ^
September 1st, 2016 at 10:27 PM ^
dafuq?!
Girl goes home with drunk, high and horny freak alone to his place, is wearing skin tight jeans and top with really expensive pumps on. Smells spectacular. She wonders why the man cant resist himself and is all over her.
This is like reading terrible and illiterate romance literature.
Those spetacular smells man. Them pheromones be killin' fools.
September 1st, 2016 at 10:19 PM ^
This is not going to end well, my friend, I sincerely hope you take the intense criticism you're about to receive to heart.
September 1st, 2016 at 10:22 PM ^
Smelling nice and wearing heels doesn't give someone permission to rape you.
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September 1st, 2016 at 10:31 PM ^
The 15th century called and they want you back!
Can't imagine the stellar advice you gave or would give to a daughter if you have one.
September 1st, 2016 at 10:31 PM ^
Whoa there Creepy crawler
September 1st, 2016 at 10:32 PM ^
no words for this. Reprehensible comment.
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September 1st, 2016 at 10:54 PM ^
Little bitch. Get help.
September 1st, 2016 at 11:13 PM ^
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September 2nd, 2016 at 6:59 AM ^
I must've set the bar pretty high to defend yourself.
With that said, I'll give the poster 12 hours from the post. Just in case he hit send and went to bed. Within 12 hours he should be checking back to see how well his joke hit if it was intended to be a joke.
Even if it was though...dear lord, that's just an absolutely horrible thing to type and be sarcastic over (even thought I personally don't believe it's an ounce of sarcasm...I just think we have cruel and stupid people in this world and this is example A).
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