OT: Carrollfreude?

Submitted by YoungGeezy on February 1st, 2015 at 11:04 PM

Anyone else feel like this is karma for Pete Carroll? I can't help but still be bitter about the last couple of Rose Bowls we lost to him and he royally screwed the Trojans on the way out.

Most are calling the goal line play the worst call in the history of football, which might be hyperbole, but I can't say I feel bad for him.

Edit: Not Hyperbole. It was a horrendous call.



February 2nd, 2015 at 11:52 AM ^

How close a play was to working doesn't alone justify how smart of a playcall it was. YOu have the #1 rushing attack in the NFL, you have an RB who hasn't lost a yard all game long, you have one of the most elusive QBs in the league. There are so many better options there. They tried to go for a quick play that would catch NE off-guard, but in doing so they called a play that in no way resembles the Seattle offensive identity. It only looks like teh worst call ever because of the circumstances, but regardless it's still really really bad.


February 2nd, 2015 at 12:43 AM ^

EVER in a super bowl. Your RB has 106 yards rushing and your in the 1 yard line. You have 2-3 chances to run it in and win the Fucking Super Bowl! Stupid stupid stupid call. No excuse for that, but in glad the Michigan dudes got some more rings.


February 2nd, 2015 at 1:35 AM ^

I'm really confused....



The Seahawks had second-and-goal at the New England 1 with 26 second to go Sunday, but instead of giving the ball to Marshawn Lynch, Seattle ran a slant route intended for Ricardo Lockette that was intercepted by Malcolm Butler in the 28-24 loss to the New England Patriots. "We were conscious of how much time was on the clock and we wanted to use it all," Bevell said. "It didn't turn out the way I hoped it would."



so a pass to the end zone was their attempt to use all of the clock? can someone fill me in on that logic please.


February 2nd, 2015 at 2:31 AM ^

I would assume that his point is that they did not have enough time to run 3 running plays from 2nd down on given the clock but by passing to the end zone and killing the clock on one of those plays they would be able to get in all 4 downs. If you run on 2nd down, you then call TO and then it's possible that after a failed 3rd down run you dont have time to reset and get off a 4th down play. That much is probably true but debateable as the time would be close. Of course, even if you accept that premise, you can call a run on second down, call TO and then pass on 3rd down so that you can have a 4th down play. Or even if you pass on the 2nd down, run a different play than that one. His point might be valid for the 3rd down play but you have to run Marshawn again on 2nd down. He gets a few yards on almost every play, in this game and in general.

Blue Mike

February 2nd, 2015 at 11:04 AM ^

The logic is that by passing on 2nd down, you keep the timout and run on 3rd down.  If you don't score on either down, you let the clock run down to :01 and you leave the Super Bowl down to 1 play.  Since it's 4th down anyway, it doesn't matter if you run or pass it.

I don't agree with the playcall (I go hurry up and try to score ASAP), but I understand his line of thinking.  It's risky, but so is scoring with :20 left on the clock and Brady (with 2 timeouts) needing only a FG to tie the game.


February 2nd, 2015 at 4:25 AM ^

I've started to hate the Seahawks. I've never seen a pro team act more "disrespected." Every player acts like they've been told they're the worst player in the league every day. And then the ridiculous stuff at the end of the game. They are the most MSU NFL team I've ever seen.

Sextus Empiricus

February 2nd, 2015 at 8:36 AM ^

Seattle benefited by contrarian tactics as much as they suffered from them.  NE's D focused on Lynch and pretty much took him out of the game.  Hindsight Harry will always kvetch.  This game will go down in my mind very much like Dyson getting tackled at the one in SB XXXIV.  

Sometimes great defensive plays win it.  Sometimes unknown talents make the difference.  Brady and Wilson played great and made gaffes.  Carroll is as much to be credited as to be blamed (the score at the end of the 1st half is to his credit and gave Seattle the mo in the game.)  Great great game.  Decided by caprice as much as strategem.  Why throw darts when faced with utter greatness.  


Sextus Empiricus

February 2nd, 2015 at 11:35 PM ^

still good but 1.5 yards off his season average.  Those long runs were for 15 and 14 yards and weren't field/game changing.  He had a sub Lynch outing but a solid performance.  The story of the Seahawks scoring was in the big plays through Wilson.  That is not to say Lynch wasn't a part of that since NE dedicated Hightower and others to anti-Lynch duties.

There aren't too many other backs I would trade for Lynch.  I'm just talking about the game, and honestly  the feel - as I admit - I didn't look up the stat line before saying NE contained Lynch.

Walter Sobchak

February 2nd, 2015 at 1:19 PM ^

There is too much armchair quarterbacking and hindsight being 20/20.  If the CB doesnt make a great play, one that he has never made before, then Carroll looks like a genius with his 2 rings.  


To me, the far worse call was Belichick not taking timeout after the first run by Lynch.   If the Patriots had lost and not had time to come back, he would never have lived that down.