CC: Mullen pulls 2015 QB's scholly

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Per 247Sports, Mississippi State has pulled the scholarship of 3* QB Chason Virgil, who had been committed to the Bulldogs since May and planned to early enroll.

 

"They called my coach today and (Mississippi State) is wanting me to grayshirt," said Virgil. "Just knowing that I am graduating early in a month, it is hard to just sit out a whole year without playing and being in a program. So I have to start over now. I haven't talked to any other schools in awhile so I just have to see what happens."


http://michigan.247sports.com/Bolt/2015-QB-Chason-Virgil-no-longer-committed-to-MSU-33120946

The kid's coach is hopping mad an not afraid to tell twitter about it:

 

Miss St. pulls scholarship from our QB Chason Virgil w/16 days til graduation. Classless move by "coach" Dan Mullen

— Jeff Neill (@neill_jeff) November 21, 2014

 

Chason Virgil -35 tds/6int passing -8td rushing. One of the best young people I've ever coached -only flaw was trusting "coach" Mullen.

— Jeff Neill (@neill_jeff) November 21, 2014

 

Obviously we've only seen one side of this story, and will only see one side of this story, but this situation makes Mullen look real scummy, imo. Mullen had been my #2 CC behind Jim Harbaugh, but this is making me really reevaluate that. It would kill me if Michigan ever did something like this to a kid.

alum96

November 21st, 2014 at 12:26 PM ^

In my research on Mullen they usually pull off classes in the 30s.  So it would be similar to MSU of the north.  That said since I think most 3 stars of the south are akin to 4 stars in te north its probably a better class than MSU even if its ranked the same but its decent but not great talent.  Other similar teams would be say Stanford and Nebraska-ish.

My Name is LEGIONS

November 21st, 2014 at 10:30 AM ^

Why do the players get sympathy? They get to decommit whenever they want....  they cannot have it both ways...  imagine had Hoke pulled Conley's scholarship around now...   

STW P. Brabbs

November 21st, 2014 at 12:29 PM ^

The impact on a football program of one decommitment is a fraction of the impact on one player when someone pulls shit like Mullen did (or Miles has done in the past, let's not forget.) An 18-year old kid makes a commitment to *one* school, and two weeks before he's supposed to start there they tell him he's no longer wanted. The effect this has on that kid's life is nothing like the effect on a football team when one scholarship player out of 85 backs out at the last minute.

Dawggoblue

November 21st, 2014 at 10:38 AM ^

Why do we consider something like this shady but we don't slam kids that flip their committment on signing day?

Recruiting is a two way street.  Kids take better offers when they become available regardless if it's 6 months or 6 days before signing day and we insist, don't attack the kids, they are making the best choice for themselves.  But a team does it and they are just shady.

Teams need to have backup plans for when kids flip, but kids don't?

Ridiculous double standard.

In reply to by Dawggoblue

M-Dog

November 21st, 2014 at 10:53 AM ^

It is shitty, both ways.  But an entire D1 football program has a lot more hedge available than a teen-age kid does.  

Recruiting drags out too long, so you get these games.  They should have an early signing period. 

Dawggoblue

November 21st, 2014 at 5:30 PM ^

Because my kids will understand that life isnt unicorns and rainbows.  That adversity is out there and sometimes you have to deal with it.

 

Your kids will go on to believe they are entitled to everything.  At least they will fit right in with the majority of this country these days.

 

Sorry is that is getting close to politiical.

Zoltanrules

November 21st, 2014 at 11:40 AM ^

Walk on kids in BIg10 country are promised scholarships, and that may not happen, or may be deferred a year. Three stars are pawns everywhere. This is college football.

joby1only

November 21st, 2014 at 11:56 AM ^

Finally somebody said "kids" can change their mind and it is different. I would not want Michigan to do this. There should be an early signing period that is binding for both parties unless the coach leaves.

CoachBP6

November 21st, 2014 at 12:26 PM ^

Anyone that thinks Harbaugh wouldn't do the same thing are kidding themselves. The SEC wins for a reason and if I could get a high 4 or 5 star player in place of a 3 star player I would do it every time. At least he didn't completely pull the offer like urbz or Saban and at least offered him something. NCAA is becoming a business and this was a business decision.

bronxblue

November 21st, 2014 at 2:46 PM ^

I'm sure there are parts of the story we aren't hearing, but this doesn't really surprise me.  Miss. St. has 30 kids listed for 2015 according to rivals, so this could just be a kid kinda, sorta getting crunched by numbers, which shouldn't occur and is definitely bad but isn't something terrible.

MSU isn't terrible with over-signing compared to some schools (the last 4 years they've had something like 90-ish commits, which isn't terrible given some early defections), but it's still a school in the SEC so I think that behavior may become ingrained in a guy like Mullen.  Also, and this is the biggest issue, he's mostly run a good-but-not-great program with a solid recruiting hotbed nearby, but this year seemingly took him from good coach to first-ballot, top-program guy because he beat a couple of meh teams in a row.  I know the SEC has been the top conference for over a decade and so his relative success should be taken in that context, but this was a guy who was a bit on the hotseat the past couple of years because his teams kept losing to the good teams on their schedule, and now people are calling him a savior.  

 

poseidon7902

November 21st, 2014 at 3:14 PM ^

I know this isn't a popular viewpoint, but how is this any different than a kid who decommits?  As far as I know, no LOI was signed.  I'm not saying it's the nicest thing in the world to do, but it's far from being an end to the kids plans.  He's not being told he can't go to school there.  just to wait a semester to enroll.  Yea, it's probably not what the kid wants to do, but it's not the end of the world.  HIs scholarship isn't being pulled, delayed.  He can still attend class if he wants for that first semester and pay for it.  And while we're being high and mighty, let's talk about the fact that Michigan as recently as last year was guilty of oversigning.  

It stings to read these articles, but being realistic we realize this isn't the end of the world and if we want to be competitive gray shirting is a heck of a lot less painful on the student than oversigning.  

Dawggoblue

November 21st, 2014 at 3:56 PM ^

You don't have high enough expectations for 18 year old men.

 

You keep refering to them as kids.  They aren't kids.  They are adults. 

 

You are looking at it backwards.  It's not ok for coaches to do it "because recurits do it to."  It shouldn't be ok for either side to do it and everyone should stop defending these young men that do.

UMinSF

November 21st, 2014 at 5:05 PM ^

It's absolutely reasonable to expect more from a leader and an institution than a high school kid. And yes, a 17 or 18 year old is still a kid. 

I admire Hoke's recruiting ethics. He won't back out of a commitment, and he expects the same from the recruit. He asks kids to finish looking around before they commit to Michigan - and eliminates the risk to the kid with a track record of honoring the school's commitment,. 

Furthermore, he does his homework regarding eligibilty and admissions - I really like that there aren't any battles with admissions or last minute surprise non-qualifiers.

If only he were as good on the field...sigh.

 

 

 

Lester

November 21st, 2014 at 3:59 PM ^

Can we stop with the "UM is righteous" garbage already?  UM admits the minimum just like OSU, MSU, and the SEC (although they don't oversign).  Give me an asshole for a coach with just the right amount of sleaze and possibly a strong affinity for Jesus any day of the week.  

severs28

November 21st, 2014 at 6:01 PM ^

Is why they need an early signing period. This kid could have signed months ago and at that point I assume (could be a bad idea) the scholarship couldn't be pulled.