This Week's Obsession: Alex Malzone: a Henson or a Cone? Comment Count

Seth

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Camps are forming around Malzone: is he a program savior who just happened to be born in the right state rooting for the right team, or is he a Plan B kind of guy you'd expect to go to State in a heretofore "normal" year? Where would you put him on the Cone-Henson Scale?

Explanation of the Cone-Henson Scale of Quarterback Recruit Excitement Level:

Cone is the guy you get when Henne just completed his freshman season, and you only hope to see in freestyle rap videos or junk time against Delaware State; Henson was the late-'90s equivalent of top overall player in the country. He who cannot be charted not charted--went back to '98 so it won't be the "Cone-Mallett" scale. I have them ranked worst to first within the categories, which are:

  • Need the Dudes: David Cone ('05), Justin Feagin ('08), Jermaine Gonzalez ('00), Spencer Brinton ('01transfer), Russell Bellomy ('11), Jason Forcier ('06)
  • Seems Like Our Kind of Guy: Steve Threet ('07 transfer), Wilton Speight ('13), Tate Forcier ('09), Clayton Richard ('03), Andy Mignery ('99), Matt Gutierrez ('02), John Navarre ('99), Shane Morris ('13)
  • Hey-O!: Devin Gardner ('10), Chad Henne ('04), Ryan Mallett ('07), Drew Henson ('98)

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Ace: I'd say Malzone fits snugly into the middle category. I expect that by the end of the recruiting cycle, if not sooner, he'll be a four-star or close to it on all of the recruiting services—Scout already has him there, the Rivals guys are hinting he'll get the bump when the non-Rivals250 four-stars are released Wednesday, and ESPN left him entirely unranked despite a glowing evaluation. 247 at least ranks Malzone, but has him behind a few players with very limited offers—the pro-style QB three spots in front of him on their position rankings holds this offer sheet: Arkansas State, Charleston Southern, Georgia State, Marshall, Middle Tennessee State. I think Malzone's gonna jump that guy.

michigan-qbs
In '96, Jason Kapsner was a recruit on par with Mallett. Michigan didn't take a QB in '97 but people figured with Kaps, Dreisbach and Brady on the roster, Henson might have to wait until 2001 for the roster to clear out. [SI]

Also supporting Malzone as an "our kind of guy" recruit is the timing of his commitment; if Michigan didn't feel he was capable of being a quality college starter, they wouldn't have offered him eight months before Signing Day in a class with room for just one quarterback. Also, Malzone seemed like a prospect who would've committed to Michigan regardless of when they offered—being a Wolverine was clearly a lifelong dream of his—and U-M evaluated plenty of highly ranked QB prospects; there was no reason to offer when they did if they didn't believe he'd be able to supplant Morris (or Speight) when the time comes.

Finally, there's his film, various camp evaluations, and recent offers; all point to Malzone as an accurate passer with solid arm strength and the intelligence to quickly absorb and take command of a playbook. The area most cited for improvement last fall, Malzone's baseball-influenced mechanics, had become a source of praise by this spring's camp season. His height (6'2") and lack of a Henne/Mallett/Morris-level cannon will probably keep him from being an NFL prospect; that doesn't so much matter at the college level, however, and I see no reason he can't succeed as a starter at Michigan.

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BiSB: If those are the categories, then he's pretty much in the "Seems Like Our Kind of Guy" stratum. He's clearly not a Need The Dudes, as they offered him relatively early (knowing he would grab the offer) with several other non-desperation guys still on the board. He's a four-star already to Rivals, and as Ace said he's likely to move up in the other services. He had interest from other big-time programs, and seemed to be "on the rise" as they say. But he's not in the "Hey-Oh!" group simply because he's a 6'2" pocket passer and doesn't have the Henne/Mallett/Morris-level arm strength.

That said, I like that they grabbed Malzone. He seems like a moderate-ceiling, high-floor kind of talent; you can only go so wrong with a guy with a solid and extremely accurate arm. I've only seen his highlights, which don't tend to show the Tacopants moments, but they show excellent touch and ball placement, and are consistent with his 67.6% completion rate and 9.9 YPA. There are no glaring red flags mechanically, especially if he (as has been suggested) tinkered with his slightly long delivery in the off-season.

Also, Michigan needed a quarterback in this class, and before Malzone committed they did not have a quarterback. Now they DO have a quarterback. That's infinitely more quarterback than they previously had. And that is good. They took they some time courting the mega-recruits in Cali, but didn't leave themselves without a solid Plan B. Hard to complain too much.

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Seth: I normally make fun of people who get tautological in player evaluations, but gorrammit there's no better way to describe Alex Malzone's game than "he's a Quarterback!" High school highlights are usually kids showing off their arm strength, floating jump balls to the end zone and running around high school dudes, or in the case of Wilton Speight, throwing off his back foot a lot. This is Malzone:

If there's arc in most of his throws, it's because this 17-year-old has calculated the exact trajectory needed to clear the linebackers, a thing that continues to baffle EA Sports and John Navarre to this day. I've made no bones on the board about my excitement for this kid who plays on a field I went by every day on my way to school, calling him "Tiny Brees" for his accuracy and lack of height. He also looks like that guy who was throwing to John Kirby when Kirby broke Lynn Swann's 24-year-old record for receptions at Serra High. That Guy also left scouts, teammates, and coaches unable to describe his game in any sense but the tautological one.

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Yeah you see it. [247]

I went to Groves, rooted for Seaholm (long story), and the neighbor's kid plays for OLSM, so I'm supposed to hate all things Rice, but Malzone is just delightful to watch in ways you wouldn't expect a "pro style" guy to be. He sees, he does. Sees, does. That ball's out of his hands so fast, and then you look downfield to figure out what it was he saw and there's a receiver not breaking stride trailed by a DB who doesn't realize he's about to come into frame.

I also got the vibe for awhile that Michigan wasn't seeing it. Coach Brown was writing another "No seriously guys HERE's the QB picture no HERE no HERE" post every other week last season as Borges chased a Swedish dual-threat, various California gunslingers, etc., only to have that list scrapped for an entirely new one filled with all the national recruits when Nussmeier arrived. That whole time I spent oscillating between annoyance and panic that the old This Is Michigan™ hubris was opening the door to, say, an in-state program that looks quite inviting at the moment, especially since (recently retired) Fracassa's program has always had its Spartan sympathies. MSU picked up their 2015 QB before Malzone dropped, but not before all my Drew Stanton nightmares returned en force.

He'll end up ranked about where Tate Forcier was, but my excitement level is more on the upper end of "seems like our kind of guy." Since I started writing for Brian this site has been all about offense predicated on running against 5.5 guys in the box, but a dead-on-balls accurate quarterback who makes quick reads and quicker decisions is a pretty nice offense too.

Comments

MGolem

May 21st, 2014 at 11:28 AM ^

From Gutierrez to Henne changed the Michigan quarterback dynamic for years to come. Up to that point there really was competition at quarterback every year but once he got hurt it became Henne's team for better or worse. I always think back to that decision and wonder what would have happened if Gutierrez had gotten another chance. I believe he was undefeated in high school or damn close. Henne had all the tools but he needed time to learn and hone what he had. Sigh...

funkywolve

May 21st, 2014 at 11:49 AM ^

I wouldn't say there was that much competition at the QB spot after Brady left.  In 2000, QB was Henson's job.  Navarre just filled in while Henson was hurt.  There might have been a little competition in 2001 but Navarre was the QB for pretty much the entire season.  2002 and 2003 was all Navarre.  So much so that I think they moved the back QB in 2001 (Gonzales) to wr in either 2002 or 2003.

Magnus

May 21st, 2014 at 11:56 AM ^

Gutierrez ended up making it to the NFL even after his shoulder injury and transferring to a small program. I know Henne has ended up as a part-time starter in the NFL, but I really think Gutierrez would have been a good quarterback for us. I just wish he and Henne hadn't existed at the same time.

Everyone Murders

May 21st, 2014 at 12:56 PM ^

I always felt bad for Gutierrez since he was the prototypical "work hard, wait for your turn" QB.  Although Henne turned out well, I agree that Gutierrez would have been a very good to great Michigan QB - he understandably left when the Henne writing was on the wall (i.e., that Henne had a firm grip on the starter's position, tender age notwithstanding).

It's nice to see that Hoke & Co. have rebuilt the QB ranks to a point where in coming years we may be saying "it's a shame QB X never made the field because QB Y was so good" as opposed to our recent years of "Dear Lord, please dont let [Denard][Devin] get hurt - we've got precious little in the cupboard!"

creelymonk10

May 21st, 2014 at 11:42 AM ^

Now just need to close out the in-state recruiting with Brian Cole, Mike Weber, and maybe Tyriq Thompson if we don't land Justin Hilliard. Oh and add Roseboro and KLS. Please and thank you.

MI Expat NY

May 21st, 2014 at 12:12 PM ^

Malzone looks like a good recruit and his tape is impressive, so don't take what I'm about to say as a knock on him in the least.  But, I imagine some of his sterling statistics are explained by those around him.  His line seemed to provide great protection and he had an excellent stable of receivers to throw to.  Numbers 1, 5, and 6 alone were all really impressive at getting open, catching the ball, and gaining YAC and then there were other guys that also made plays.  I don't know if any of those guys were elite level recruits, but just like not being a pro prospect doesn't mean you weren't a great college player, not being an elite recruit doesn't mean you weren't a great high school player.  It seemed like the whole offense had great high school players.  

The FannMan

May 21st, 2014 at 12:46 PM ^

First, I have to acknowledge my bias as a CC alum.  I am also not going to pretend to have any qualifications as a talent scout.  I saw him play live when his Rice team strangled CC to death in the Catholic League Championship, so small sample size also applies.

I thought he did a good job, but I was not excited about him as a future Michigan QB.  I thought that he looked like a really good HS QB  He didn't make any bad mistakes, but he didn't crusie up and down the filed either.  He threw a nice ball, but his arm didn't seem to have major college power to it.  Everyone seems to concede that he isn't a Henne.  I am worried that he is really just a Sheridan.  That puts him in the Need the Dudes camp.

I do hope that he proves me wrong and I get to eat these words while watching a replay of him killing OSU.

Also, isn't it a circular argument to say that we should feel better about the offer because he is going to get a bump in the rankings because he has a Michigan offer? 

Don

May 21st, 2014 at 12:58 PM ^

and the hype for Ryan Mallett was vastly greater, higher, and bigger than it ever was for Jason Kapsner. Not even close.

Don

May 21st, 2014 at 1:05 PM ^

Once upon a time we had a QB who was third-team All-State and had offers from Purdue and Kentucky, but chose to walk on at Michigan instead. He was not renowned for having a rocket arm nor was he a threat with his legs, but he was just efficient enough to lead Michigan to a national championship.

Erik_in_Dayton

May 21st, 2014 at 1:29 PM ^

He's certainly a primate.  His dexterous hands and tool use give that much away.  With his upright walking and lack of a tail, he's almost just as surely homo sapien, the other members of the homo genus having died out long ago.  He's also likely of Northern Eurpoean extract, his skin having lost pigment in order to better facilitate the production of Vitamin D in an environment of intermittent sunlight. 

Beyond that, you've got me. 

Seth

May 21st, 2014 at 1:32 PM ^

I don't know how you can say that when so many homo sapiens have neanderthal genes. I agree that he is bipedal. What really stands out is that enlarged cranium. What's the brain weight to body weight ratio? It's gotta be a new record for species.

Erik_in_Dayton

May 21st, 2014 at 1:48 PM ^

I didn't mean to deny the likely presence of homo neaderthalensis genes in the subject.  However - and I say this with respect to your many years in the field - his genes are likely no more than three or four percent neanderthal.  So I think we're safe with the homo sapien label absent further information. 

The size of his cranium is indeed intriguing.  Does he think symbolically?  Does he have a sense of self?  Does he contemplate his own mortality?  Does he have a name, and if so, does he write or draw his name in the snow with his urine?  My strong hope is that additional tests answer these questions. 

Seth

May 21st, 2014 at 9:01 PM ^

Those are important questions. However, I was thinking of scrapping those tests in place of drawing a 3D image of what I think his vocal chords look like based on the position of his trachea, and then making sweeping statements about his ability to communicate using speech.

 

Bodogblog

May 21st, 2014 at 1:51 PM ^

Level of loft - one of the things that worried me on his film is that he gets some balls just above  or inside/outside of defenders.  I watched and thought "that'll be picked at the college level".  Especially if the arm strength isn't there, which is hard for me to judge (it looks plenty OK to me).  I also saw the mechanical issues, hopefully he's fixed those.

But I agree on the QB thing, and his accuracy is stunning at times.  I hate to say this - really hate to say this - but he reminds me of Connor Cook, without the boneheaded mistakes, and minus some of the playmaking ability.  Cook hit some windows that he shouldn't be able to (and I think some of that will come back to haunt him this year, but he's good), and Malzone looks like he might do the same. 

Intelligence and pinpoint accuracy can lead to elite offense at the college level, given the level of DB play.  Find the right receiver and hit him in stride (which I agree with Seth, he does amazingly well), and you can force the safeties back all day.  If our running game and receivers are where they need to be at that point, seems like he could be the perfect match.  But what the hell do I know.

m1jjb00

May 21st, 2014 at 3:07 PM ^

Malzone looked good in the state championship game that started off with Muskegon looking like they were going to move all day up and down the field all day with the option and Rice countering with an unstoppable passing game.  The former cooled, the latter not really.

Also, it has been commented on before but with guys from U of D, DeLaSalle, Catholic Central and now Brother Rice, if Michigan doesn't add the OLSM qb reasonably soon, Brian should eat a lemon.

Rufus X

May 21st, 2014 at 3:10 PM ^

I happened to see both Gardner and Malzone play an entire HS football game in person.  Gardner was a talented freak with a very strong, albiet incredibly irratic arm, but didn't look like much of a QB to me.  Looked more like a WR or TE prospect if not for our Denard situation and talent vacuum at the position at the time.  Obviously he's grown into a good QB, but I still contend he'd have been better utilized elsewhere.

Malzone, however, was all pure QB.  Rice played a spread in the game I saw (state championship game at Ford Field) and was throwing the pill all over the yard, scrambling, incredibly accurate and decisive.  I LOVED the guy, but had never heard of him before the game, and when I got home looked him up and was astounded that he was a fringe 2 or 3 star at the time.  I was just amazed, since what I had just watched looked like a prototype 1995-2005 Michigan QB.  I'm reallly glad we got this guy, even if he was our 3rd choice (or later).  Hope my gut on him turns out the be right.

TheNema

May 21st, 2014 at 3:37 PM ^

In '96, Jason Kapsner was a recruit on par with Mallett. Michigan didn't take a QB in '97 but people figured with Kaps, Dreisbach and Brady on the roster, Henson might have to wait until 2001 for the roster to clear out. 

Literally no one thought that.

NoMoPincherBug

May 21st, 2014 at 8:02 PM ^

"Tiny Brees"?  Really?  He has 3 inches on Brees.  Who knows how Malzone will turn out at Michigan, but he threw for 67% completion rate last season.  If he keeps that up and gets even close to that % at Michigan...I guarantee you that plenty of NFL clubs will take notice.

Low Key Recidivist

May 22nd, 2014 at 6:18 PM ^

Reminds me of Wangler; Griese would be a good fit too.  Not overly big or physically talented, but very good decision makers who were accurate and on time with their throws.

For all the emphasis placed on athleticism and measurables in the recruiting process (and they are important certainly), it all boils down to execution, especially at that position.  The kid has played his best in big situations against very good competition.

He may end up sending in signals for four years for UM; I personally doubt it.  I like the offer and I'm not betting against him being #1 on the depth chart in a couple of years.