Bluey
I do not want to give this guy more oxygen.
this board is nearly unreadable because of his posts. Maybe if everyone stops replying/commenting he will go away? It is useless to try and have a reasonable conversation. I come to this site to read and be entertained on all things U of M related; it is no longer fun.
as I stated earlier, this site needs a ‘mute’ or ‘ignore’ feature. Mods, my guess is people are going to stop coming here if this is not dealt with.
this is just my personal opinion
I agree with pretty much everything he posts, but it is fucking annoying that he does it at least once a day. I’d feel the same about a poster that did nothing but blow sunshine up our asses.
The guy is useless. I can ignore him fine. Just not a huge fan of the most well known UM sports blog having some creep run 16 and 17 year old kids down. Highly doubt he’s ever done anything approximating the amount of work or effort they put into their particular sport.
This thread is worse than anything he's said, and he's generally awful.
Suggestion: Let’s stop replying to Bluey and making posts about Bluey. Whatever the perceived problem is, it will disappear
Complaining doesn’t help but bring down the program and not make the recruits you want to come here. Support Harb and if it doesn’t work then things will change regardless if you complain or not. The best thing is to support the heck out of every recruit regardless of stars and trust the coaches that history will develop them into NFL players. This will help us get the players we want, recruits know the fan bases that support their players no matter what.
Let me ask you this. Do you agree that it is concerning that it has been a year since a 4 star recruit has committed? I do.
If people would just read what Bluey is saying and not constantly feel the need to argue with him, like he’s going to change, you’d likely agree with a good amount of his takes.
this team is 8-7 in their last 15 games. Recruiting needs to be better.
"Do you agree that it is concerning that it has been a year since a 4 star recruit has committed?"
Yes, but I'm still gonna root for who wants to play for UofM and call out the assholes who post shit in Hello threads.
"Recruiting needs to be better."
It sure does if we want to consistently beat OSU and make it to the CFP. Personally though, I can wait as long as a Clemson fan can.
"It sure does if we want to consistently beat OSU and make it to the CFP. Personally though, I can wait as long as a Clemson fan can."
2009, Swinney's first full year as HC, Clemson played for the ACC championship. 2010, a losing season. 2011, Swinney's third year as HC he led the Tigers to the ACC championship and it's been uphill ever since to include winning the National Championship.
2011 was the 20th anniversary of Clemson's previous ACC Championship, are you saying you're good with waiting until at least 2023 before Michigan wins another B1G championship?
"are you saying you're good with waiting until at least 2023 before Michigan wins another B1G championship?"
I would root for Michigan if they never one another game, period.
Is that f'n clear enough for you idiots?
It's a Buddhist thing:
The only way I can protect my soul from being dragged to hell for supporting modern day indentured servitude were young, mostly impoverished, mostly minorities are exploited by the most hideous human beings alive is to root for them all UNCONDITIONALLY and hope that one day there is a semi-pro league where 18 year old adults can earn a honest dollar for their incredibly profitable skill.
Calling people idiots while not knowing the difference between “one” and “won”?
Pure Michigan.
Thinking someone dose not understand a simple concept because of a typo?
Pure Kansassin?
That's not a type-o. That's you not understanding the meaning of the two words.
You really think I don't understand the difference between a singular and a victory?
I would have thought not, but here we are.
Such semi-pro leagues exist, you should endeavor to educate yourself.
Really? Awesome!
Someone should go tell all these top150 recruits there is a semi-pro league that will pay them an honest wage for their highly profitable skill, where they can spend 100% of their non football time preparing themselves to get ready for the NFL!
I bet a lot of those young men would choose THAT path, ya know cuz of the honest pay thing.
So...great...o.....wait...
One last thing: what's that league called again? Link?
Winning has to be better now, recruiting should follow, but I don't see winning getting any better. I imagine many of the top flight players are now looking at Rashan Gary and saying, "There but for the Grace of God go I." Simple fact, winning players want to be part of winning teams. Gary is getting a great education and will likely, if he remains healthy, be well regarded by the NFL and be paid handsomely for his services. But man, on some level you have to feel sorry for him that he gave up the chance to be a National Championship contender to being part of a 2nd tier B1G East program.
But what's he's saying is the same thing we've all heard and it feels unnecessary and also mislewding. Also, two 4* kids have committed in the past couple of months (McNamara and Jones), so you see the problem I have with his constant rants. There is always a kernel of truth to them, but it's filtered through a fine layer of bullshit and anger that, well, he's lost the benefit of the doubt with me (and it seems others) that he's worth listening to. YMMV, but whatever trivial amount of information he beings is greatly outweighed by the shitty persona delivering it. I can Google just as well and get the same info, and at least my browser doesn't doggedly keep repeating falsehoods because it's mad.
Ok, I agree. Now what? What does me, or anyone, or everyone in here agreeing with you, or Bluey, have to do with anything? Is it concerning? Sure. But again, so what? Here we are collectively concerned and wringing our hands together. What now? Is all that friction we're creating together going to actually do anything? It's not like we can get a ballot initiative going and force our collective discontent into the public discourse. People ARE reading what Bluey (and now your, apparently) are saying. But, we're powerless to do anything about it expect sit back and see how it all plays out. As such, the ire that comments like this generate, at least from my perspective, is that it just become like dealing with a petulant child. "Dad, I'm hungry!" "Ok, good ... I am cooking dinner right now ... it'll be done in a few minutes." "But, dad ... I'm hungry NOOWWWWWWW!" I mean come on. We get it already. Things have taken an odd turn, at least on paper, of late. None of us know how it'll all turn out, and we'll just have to wait and see. Constantly saying how concerning it is isn't going to do anything about it, and is downright irrational.
Perhaps I wasn't clear, I was concerned. I was concerned through most of the first decade of the 21st C as, IMO, Carr was going through the motions. I was concerned during the RR and BH years for various and multiple reasons. I was overjoyed that Michigan was able to finally land Jim Harbaugh, somebody I thought was an opportunity Michigan had missed a few years earlier. It is not 'wringing of hands' to point out that after the excitement of having a new coach wears thin the lifeblood of the program which is recruiting, becomes a product of past performance. Short of achieving at least playing for a conference championship this year, I've come to an acceptance and resignation, Michigan football will likely not return to national relevance in my remaining years. In other words, I'm no longer concerned.
Except we haven't won a conference championship since 2004, so dad has been cooking for 13 years? That poor child. Someone call CPS.
Some dads are more talented cooks than other dads.
Im hungry for that dinner, but sure as hell knew the last dad wasn’t going to be the one serving it to me.
To address something mentioned by the OP, I am going to be totally honest with folks - I am not at all certain that you CAN block anyone or subtract points or do anything punitive in this format of the site yet. I can delete threads, but that's about all I have been able to master in this iteration of the site.
Lol damn. I'll miss negging trolls and sending folks to Bolivia.
Actually, before that returns, let's take this summer to encourage the most vociferous dissent possible, so I can beat that crap down so soundly that not one of you maroons will dare say a negative word all fall.
*Morans
Go USA!
Bluey, in particular, doesn't bother me, but there are more negative Michigan fans online than I would have ever imagined. They're all over social media posting recklessly; combined with Ohio State and Sparty trolls, not to mention the Rutgers and Purdues of the world (even random opponents seem to want a rivalry with M), it can all start to feel like a bit much.
I also seriously doubt Michigan could land better head coaches, so I hope we can tone it down next season and win.
You say not to respond but you make a post about him. Smart.
the great thing about message boards is you can ignore the posters you don't like and interact with those you do.
If you think Bluey is bad, imagine the flak Orangey over at TigerNet is giving Dabo Swinney this week, for gobbling up his sixth 3-star commit in the last 12 days, which includes Ruke Orhorhoro!!
What is the world coming to.
Well, well, well, well played.
I mean THAT team will NEVER be in a CFP, amirite?
Do you know in Dabo's first 6 years he only finished in the top 10 once, in year 5! Harbaugh did that year two. Plus he was only 5-11 against rivals!
I know, I know, those naive southerners...how precious, lol; I'm sure, we sophisticated northerners never would have allowed such incompetence from ONE coach to stand, so we would have replaced the coach 2 or 3 times to spread that incompetence over many staffs.
We are recruiting like Minnesota, Kentucky and Kansas State and yet we wonder why we can't beat Ohio State.
If this was Hoke or RichRod we'd be losing our collective minds. But because its Harbaugh the board thinks "all is well....trust the coaches".
This is the most important Michigan season in over a decade. The effects of this year will be felt for years and years to come.
Per 24/7, Michigan is recruiting like...Texas, Auburn, Tennessee, Wisconsin, and PSU (ignoring teams like Minnesota and Purdue who have almost double the number of commits). It isn't up with OSU (though the gap isn't nearly as wide as people make it out to be), and that's an issue, but there are posters here who turn the hyperbole up to 11 because it's fun and makes them seem "real" when it's just the same annoying bullshit they complain about people being slappies.
People are saying "Don Brown built elite defenses on far worse talent than he's signing now, and these guys all seem to fit a mold, so let's roll with that and see where it goes. Yes, Harbaugh needs to recruit better, but for the past couple of weeks I kept hearing that Harbaugh has missed out on Belleville and was ignoring the state, and now he's signed a couple of good kids out of that program but apparently they aren't the "right" kids. Harbaugh also convinced the former #1 QB in the 2016 class to transfer to Michigan, and that should pay dividends this season to some degree, but apparently that doesn't matter either.
No rational fan would say this has been a great past year for Michigan. But there are a lot of people who get annoyed that after repeating this same point a dozen times, posters here say "we get it. What else do you have?" and aren't, I don't know, hailed as victors valiant.
Maybe this is the end for Harbaugh. Maybe Michigan is now a perpetual deathtrap for coaches, where good people go to suck and die on the vine. I don't know. Maybe all the decades of karma for the football team went to Beilein and the basketball program, and Michigan fans should settle into a long string of continued mediocrity. But good lord, we don't need to hear about how underwhelming something is to people here for the next 3 months, especially when that's all they have to add.
You've been vocal about your displeasure with Michigan recently (including the AD), but you've been coherent and open to discussion with your points. And that's the type of debate this place seems to do well with. But creating a thread where you shit on a kid likely to recruit because he isn't up to your standards isn't any piece of that.
Your comment appears directed at me. I created no such thread-i commented on our less than desirable results in recruiting over the past year.
Anyone who thinks things are going well recruiting-wise has either lost their mind or is secretly an OSU/MSU fan.
I responded to your comment that "We are recruiting like Minnesota, Kentucky and Kansas State and yet we wonder why we can't beat Ohio State."
We are not, in fact, recruiting like those schools. I also don't know what qualifies as recruiting "well" anymore around here. There are a finite number of highly regarded recruits in this country, and Michigan will get some of them and others they will lose out on. Apparently I'm insane because I'm not that bent out of shape that Michigan seems to be recruiting kids in a way that Don Brown has done before, and are in on some solid recruits going forward.
But Jim Harbaugh's first couple of years were built on Hoke's later classes, which were ranked reasonably high (two top 10, then a top 20) but which, by the time they actually got to Harbaugh, well hollowed out by injuries, misses, etc. The top-half of those classes had some studs (Peppers, Lewis, Charlton) and a ton of misses. And yet, Michigan came within a couple of plays of beating OSU the past 2 years, and unlike under Hoke this staff does feel like it has a plan and is recruiting to it, as opposed to Hoke's "we can teach speed" and "who needs more than 3 offensive linemen" approach.
Personally, for me, it's because he's the coach that delivered the best class recruiting class UofM has ever had, just 16 months ago, and I guess I'm not too old to remember it.
Plus, if there is a recruiting "problem", it isn't the coach.
This is the guy who went OMG shirtless and did sleep overs to get the spotlight on UofM when nobody wanted anything to do with this program or fan base. Pulled diamonds in the rough like Higdon and Gentry from a 1000 miles away, when kids from the state of Michigan and Ohio wouldn't give Michigan the time of day.
Maybe if they didn't ban the satellite camps, none of this would even be an issue.
But when it comes to stuff like this, some guy once said:
"..when your team is losing. Stick by them."
So the Team has lost a few games and lost some recruiting battles, boo F'n hoo, just gives me an opportunity to encourage them when they need it most.
The blind trust fan phase is inevitable in every hire. The bigger the coach the longer the phase or until the coach takes the program to the next level.
I remember all the "In Rod We Trust" signs. I remember Hoke going 11-2 and trusting/believing he returned us to being a consistent powerhouse program. Even up to the end of their gigs here you had the same "trust the coaches" fan base here that would berate if you question anything about the staff. This is no different than today.
Harbaugh is a great coach and I still believe he is the man for the job but that does not mean you aren't allowed to talk about his mistakes he's made here or question things. It's a sports blog for God's sake.
He posts constructive (borderline excessive) criticism. Hes a little too brash in my opinion but he backs his opinions up. Yeah when we lost to OSU in basketball Beilein did seem to have lost the team, yes our recruiting in football is a bit underwhelming.
I wouldn’t even call him a troll. He doesn’t post comments like “Harbaugh sucks” “Mo Wagner is trash.”
No, his comments are much more subtle than that, Qmatic. Have you noticed that he's never once responded to my direct questions concerning his motivation? Neither has Milk. You wouldn't call him a troll? How about an agitator, then? Do you remember reading about these types in history? They'd infiltrate a rival political party with the intent of demonizing and discrediting the rival party, often times by inciting violence so that their real party had the public justification to lash back violently.
Here, Bluey/Maizen/Milk are doing the same -- although not violently. They know damn well what they're doing -- they're portraying the fanbase of the University of Michigan as obnoxious and unwelcoming, and trying to paint a picture of the Harbaugh being on the disliked and on the hotseat. I've asked repeatedly, and politely, for his (their) motivation, and I get nothing. He drops a match in a pile of leaves, and only comes out to fan the flames, never to actually engage in discord. It's one thing to be honestly concerned, it's another entirely to feign concern at every turn, but never really come out an say what his true motivation is. This is sophisticated trolling. He's not doing it to get a rise out of us, or because he's pathological, he's doing it because he's trying to discredit Harbaugh and Michigan.
Unfortunately, it seems to be working.
Man Stan, you really got to lighten up.
These are just commentors on the internet. When you walk out the door into the world internet comments are nothing.
Just yesterday I was taking a memory trip back to when I was in kindergarten. The nostalgia might have been even more pronounced if I'd read this thread first.
I haven’t noticed very many Bluey post but the number of people pissing and moaning about him is getting annoying.
Exactly this. Sifting through all the bitching and moaning has gotten old fast.
Have you considered simply ignoring the individual?
The problem isn't bluey. The problem is the vast amount of posters (like yourself) who go out of their way to create talk about him and his opinions rather than simply ignore him. In every thread his name comes up because fools here think they are funny if they comment about him sarcastically, even if he never commented first. And who gives a shit if Bluey is Maizen? No one should care. Having to read through all that bull shit to find actual interesting insight and opinions is killing the readability here.
You starting this topic is the perfect example. Let's not give him more oxygen...by creating an entire thread dedicated to him. Genius...
And RollDamnTide, I mean sky panther.
The fact that these type of posts get more comments than the average sports post shows the unhappiness level of most commenters MGoBoard.
Just ignore the commenter names you don't like. Scroll past them. Why stop at them and feed your unhappiness?
Bluey is Shawn L Martin on twitter. He is an internet tough guy who would get beat down if he says half the stuff he says behind a keyboard to someone's face.
You should fight him in real life. Or at least threaten to. That's always fun.