Mgoblog (Brian) Twitter rant
Looks like bowling didn't go too well
I'm just done with people who are mad at me for reacting how I do to Michigan football. If you don't like it, I don't care
For years I let people talk shit to me because I felt some sort of duty to them because they'd been around a while.
That was a mistake. If you are surprised that I am emotional and moody at this point you are too stupid to care about.
I have taken epic tons of shit for being in a bad mental spot this year; and somehow I managed to feel bad about that.
No more. I'm done taking shit from internet anons because I'm not happy about losing to OSU 9 of 10 years.
I don't owe you a damn thing. Read it or don't.
most people are not reacting like that, but shitheads are louder. this is going to have an effect on MGoBlog.
Your point total is irrelevant to my decisions. If you're making our lives shitty, you're gone
This whole season has been 50% nightmare team, 50% nightmare community. I can fix half of that.
December 1st, 2013 at 3:04 AM ^
The point is that both Hoke and Borges have repeatedly expressed their opinion that the spread makes you weak on offense and defense and that you can't be physical or tough out of the spread.
Urban Meyer came in with a bunch of maulers, lined them up in the spread, and beat Michigan's brains in.
They seemed to be fundamentally wrong about what the spread allows a team to do, as well as what a pro-style offense prepares the defense to stop.
Hoke and Borges has been spouting this for a few years now. Its hardly secret.
December 1st, 2013 at 11:24 AM ^
if it isn't select then provide a better quote.
Also, it may be worth asking why Urban was able to turn Tresselball into a functional spread immediately while we were repeatedly told it would take 3 years to turn our big fatty fattersons into spread players.
December 1st, 2013 at 11:36 AM ^
come on Brodie, you can't seriously compare the state of Tressel's program in 2011 with Michigan in 2008. especially on offense- we had absoultely no offensive talent. total rewrite.
December 1st, 2013 at 11:39 AM ^
I would guess if Urban had the personnel situation with specifically the Threet/Sheridan combination at QB, he probably would have had a lot of trouble in his first two seasons.
But I don't know what the point is. If you are asking what Urban could have done if this had been his first season as the Michigan head coach, I think somewhere between 10-12 regular season wins.
This team almost certainly has the skill position talent that last years OSU team had.
December 1st, 2013 at 3:06 AM ^
Braxton Miller : Pro Style : Spread Option : Ryan Mallet
December 1st, 2013 at 11:21 AM ^
Braxton Miller was recruited by Tressel to run the same offense as Smith and Pryor. If you think that was the spread option, I don't know if you know what that term means... it's not shorthand for "black mobile QB"
December 1st, 2013 at 3:17 AM ^
Also coming back to this:
Michigan itself was selected over a couple of other teams higher ranked in the BCS poll. It was then matched up against VaTech who was even more of a reach. Then in the game VaTech managed to outgain Michigan 377-184 in what was a brutally poor football game for at least 3 quarters. Then Michigan wins because a TD gets overturned when it probably shouldn't have.
Maybe it wasn't embarrassing, but it wasn't pretty.
December 1st, 2013 at 11:26 AM ^
Michigan did everything asked of them and were rewarded by the system. This is like saying the 1997 National Title was embarrassing and undeserved because we played a crappier bowl game than Nebraska.
December 1st, 2013 at 3:41 PM ^
December 1st, 2013 at 11:27 AM ^
If anything, we're just as close to 11-1 as we are to 5-7.
that is... wow. I mean, i feel compelled to test the hypothesis that if someone pissed on your back and told you it's rain, that you'd be like, "oh, OK then thanks for the info!"
Close losses:
- good: OSU
- BAD: Neb, @IOWA, @PSU
Close wins:
- good: ???? quality Ws over ND and Minn (i guess)
- BAD: Akron, @ UCONN, @NW
yes, we are 4 close losses from 11-1. but Neb (w/o half the O starters), Iowa and (talent depleted) PSU are NOT good teams (tho clearly not bod either).
Team 134 is absolutley just as close to 4-7 (3 close wins) and in fact, those close Ws were to TURRIBLY AWFUL CRAPTASTIC teams comprised primarily of 85 guys who combined went 1-7 in the B10, and 12-25 overall in godawful conferences.
This is NOT the same as 2012 when we lost to ND, Bama, and OSU who went a combined 36-2 with one loss coming from one of those 3 vary (very?) teams. Plus a good SC in the bowl and @Neb when denard went down. those losses were understandable- dissappointing that we couldn't squeek out one win in there, but no onw was that upset.
most years I always say you deserve the record you have. just as many close games that fell one way as the other. but M consistently struggled since the ND game, and often against incontrovertably awful teams. we are a 7-5 team that in no way deserves to be anything other more than 7-5.
re: Brian. I think most people don't quite understand his thought process. He forms his opinions of coaches (and everything else it seems) based on evidence. The evidence for Brady Hoke in Jan 2011 didn't say too much in terms of overall record. clearly, he could take a team and turn it around from 4-7 to 9-3 or so in a few years. that Ball state 12-0 start was certainly something (tho no one cites the 2 losses at the end). He clearly had support from the program alums/blue hairs/donors and brough us all under one roof, so to speak. seemed to be able to speak to the M crowd well (Ohio, don't wear red, etc), but those are platitudes at best. In contrast, there was a lot of evidence to suggest that RR could have been successful here back in 2007-8. took a no where WVU program to curbstomping OU in Fiesta Bowls, developed everything on his own (JUST like John Beilein, i might add). So, he took more stock in the numbers, stats and analysis than the feelingsball bullshit about "fit" and "Michigan man" and "spread is a gimmick." maybe he, along with amny of the rest of us, underestimated the "fit/MichMan" horseshit- but that's understandable.
December 1st, 2013 at 3:49 PM ^
December 1st, 2013 at 4:01 PM ^
Iowa has been unranked all season. they are not a good football team, not bad, not good. like PSU and Minnesota and everyother team in the B10 save Pur, OSU, MSU, Ill.
ND and Minn weren't close wins, but they were good wins so i included them for completeness.
re: Brian. if anything, I think he was mostly ignoring the root cause of the "never forget" secondary. we couldn't recruit or retain enough talented players in the secondary (and a few other positions). who's in charge of that ultimately? the HC.
December 1st, 2013 at 3:01 AM ^
My sense of it is that this is partially true. However, Brian loved Rogriguez for the same reasons he failed here. There was no Fort Schembechler. Rodriguez was interesting to write about, regardless of the writer) becuase he was so prone to open his mouth and say whatever came to him without any filter whatsoever. That's fine if you're a blogger. Not as fine if you're the Michigan Football Coach.
So, it's not as intersting to write about Michigan now. And, there likely aren't as many posts or site visits now that our coach has some self respect, and intelligence, and doesn't put his foot in his mouth once every week.
There is nor will there ever be a Josh Groban incident with this coach. Nor will you see or hear about Brady Hoke assistants getting into a fight on the sidelines. These things kept people coming here, and anywhere. That is gone. Permanently. With that absence, are less clicks. I'd like to say that has nothing to do with the lack of poster moderation on this site, but I don't know anymore. Too many one sentence posters with nothing to conribute. The same posters bring as much to Brian those posting with thought.
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December 1st, 2013 at 12:09 AM ^
the blog has turned into a steaming dungheap. Clicks uber alles, if the blogmeisters wanted user moderation there would be user moderation. Trolls and fugitives have been allowed to take root. Feast on the succulent fruits of your labor.
December 1st, 2013 at 12:28 AM ^
What happened to you?
December 1st, 2013 at 12:14 AM ^
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December 1st, 2013 at 12:58 AM ^
Agreed.
December 1st, 2013 at 1:46 AM ^
Great post.
Do I dislike the coverage here when I disagree with it? Absolutely. But anyone who tries to heap shit on Brian is being a dickbag. He's not the voice of the Michigan fanbase, he's not under any obligation to behave a certain way or think a certain thing just because you or I might think it's the only reasonable position to take.
He is a fan with a blog. A popular blog, but a blog nonetheless. If he's not happy with today, he's more than entitled to that.
December 1st, 2013 at 12:30 AM ^
Brian, I havent met you, or tweeted you ot emailed you, but I agree 100% with your tweets. Keep up the fight! GO BLUE!
December 1st, 2013 at 12:40 AM ^
December 1st, 2013 at 1:02 AM ^
I'm not entirely sure what the tweet said, but if you think Michigan was killing it with 35 rushes for 152 yards (4.34 ypc), I wonder how you would describe OSU's performance at 46 rushes for 393 yards.
When you staunchly oppose a spread attack on the opinion that you need an under-center, pro-style attack to have a controlling ground attack, and then your rival with a spread offense puts up 8.5(!) ypc on 46(!!!) carries right in your face, it kinda makes you look like you don't know what you are talking about.
That is not directed at you, btw, just the folks that Brian probably feels like he has been at war with since 2008.
December 1st, 2013 at 1:32 AM ^
December 1st, 2013 at 2:18 AM ^
Remind me, can you retroactively assign some of the points and yards against OSU to the MSU, Nebraska, NW, and Iowa games to make them less of a shit storm?
December 1st, 2013 at 2:28 AM ^
No, but that's irrelavent to the point he was making: the tweet feeds to the perception that even if our offense is fully operational Brian will still find it unsatisfactory when compared to his chosen offensive system.
I'm not really sure how you can deny this.
December 1st, 2013 at 3:56 AM ^
It is relevant because having four abysmal games and one really good one does not make for a fully operational offense. A fully-operational offense wouldn't leave us so clueless as to what to expect in the bowl game.
And like I have said a couple times, he wasn't commenting on Michigan's offense, he was talking about OSU's, who was repeatedly gashing Michigan up the middle with a 240lb bruiser.
December 1st, 2013 at 2:22 AM ^
And also, it was in the context of OSU flat out slamming the football down Michigan's throat.
December 1st, 2013 at 1:49 AM ^
If you're going to put that out there to counter such a hyper specific argument, though, you should probably make it clear. Because like yeah, but we also put up 450 yards passing to Ohio State's 100-something. This game was essentially a text book display of both offensive styles working perfectly... if it looks like you're complaining about how our offense performed, it feeds the perception that you can never be satisfied with this style in any capacity.
December 1st, 2013 at 2:02 AM ^
I'm not saying Michigan's offense didn't perform well. It obviously did.
I'm saying that OSU did what the opponents of spread offenses (what beleaguered few there are) - including the current staff - said a team couldn't do, and they won in the process.
December 1st, 2013 at 2:26 AM ^
I would like a quote from a member of the current staff stating that you cannot gain over 300 yards rushing with a spread offense.
December 1st, 2013 at 3:41 AM ^
I'm not going to track down the quotes because the forum is messing up on chrome for me for some reason and you have google, but there were two main opinions that were completely blown out of the water Saturday (if not completely refuted earlier):
1) Two part idea: A) The pro-style makes an offense more physical up front running the ball, B) facing a pro-style offense in practice makes a defense more physical up front, and alternately, facing a spread offense makes it weaker.
2) Spread quarterbacks take too much of a beating when you run them.
December 1st, 2013 at 11:31 AM ^
None of those things are untrue provided that by physicality you mean having a size advantage on the line.
December 1st, 2013 at 12:11 PM ^
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December 1st, 2013 at 12:42 AM ^
in plain english, what is Brian upset about? I know he's been down since the PSU game. That's when I decided I didn't want to invest anymore emotion in this team.
December 1st, 2013 at 12:46 AM ^
December 1st, 2013 at 8:28 AM ^
Grow up already
December 1st, 2013 at 1:20 AM ^
Basically:
He's sick of ad hominen attacks. If you argue with his ideas that's one thing, but increasingly the criticism of his writing is about him and not what he's saying. Or doesn't address what he's actually saying.
December 1st, 2013 at 1:11 AM ^
Sorta guessing here, but Brian has seen this team stay stagnant since 2007 at least, and where he endured through RichRod as there seemed to be a real attempt to move this program forward during those years, he doesn't have the same hope now.
As such he has emotionally tuned out the team. Some folks have responded by calling him a fairweather fan who bails on the team when it loses.
A very hollow criticism considering how much he devoted to the RichRod teams.
December 1st, 2013 at 2:45 AM ^
Is it hollow? Brian could certainly be described as a fairweather hockey fan, given how quickly he bailed on what was Michigan's only bad team in a quarter of a century last season. In darker times, he'd also shut down live blogs of basketball games when he became convinced that they were unwinnable. So I'd say it's fair if not accurate.
Also, during the RR days many who were loyal Michigan fans previously were accused of being fairweather fans for not accepting THE PROCESS. I suppose as long as you accept the spread uber alles line of reasoning, that's different, though.
December 1st, 2013 at 11:44 AM ^
given how quickly he bailed on what was Michigan's only bad team in a quarter of a century last season.
I htink he bailed in mid-late Jan no? that's more than half the season, and the preverbial STBTCB was the levelling of a captain, to which there was no retailiation or even reaction.
that team mailed it in back in October. not until late Feb did an essential change in captainship and leadership take place and then they started playing better-
December 1st, 2013 at 8:29 AM ^
2014 is going to be a rough schedule
wash, rinse, repeat
December 1st, 2013 at 12:53 AM ^
I've been on this blog for a couple years now. Got on here daily for updates and to read sports discussions. (just started posting recently) I really enjoyed this site but lately it's almost been unbearable to read. I hope Brian and the mod's do actually start to "clean house" because the trolls and ultra-negative posters are ruining it for everyone.
December 1st, 2013 at 1:07 AM ^
If Brain wants to run a blog about how horrible canned music is, the evils of alternate jerseys, and why everything is awful every season forever, he's more than welcome to. If you think he's wrong on any of that, as I do on all of it, you should probably just avoid this place. That's the message he's sending.
December 1st, 2013 at 1:11 AM ^
Michigan played their hearts out, the offense scored 41 points and they lost on a very sound and aggressive decision to go for two. The defense played poorly, but they were up against an explosive offense. Michigan has been bad against OSU this past decade, but that's hardly the result of the current coaching staff. I don't see why everyone is having a goddamn coniption about it. I enjoy this blog and all, but some people need to calm the fuck down and that includes Brian. If you're a any sort of publishing writer, people (often stupid people) are going to talk shit about what you write. That's just life. Like much of life, it isn't fair, but you just have to let it go. I don't mean to sound pious, because it happens to everybody.
December 1st, 2013 at 2:41 AM ^
First and foremost, Brian, you've been obviously frustrated this year. How would anyone know that any part of that frustration is related to something other than Michigan Football? That's what you have portrayed. (I assume by your commentd above your kitty kat posting has been partially caused by factors other than just the football team).
It would be one thing if this team was not competitive, but as bad as our record is, what some of us realize is that despite a limited depth, and a handful of contributing seniors, this team has been in a position to win every single game this year except for one. (By the way, that is a polite way to say that the former coach you love so much was NEVER competitive against OSU).
Now, it's time to suck it up, and act like a big boy. You cover MICHIGAN football. It is not about your blog. It is about something bigger than your blog. It is about the mass of Michigan Fans out here looking for a place to congregate and discuss OUR team. Not your team. OUR TEAM.
If you want to go off like a pansy, go for it. If you want to nuke posters, go for it. This site is out of hand the last half of the year. With little or no objectivity. It is sad. If you want to start banning people, how about the obnoxious people who simply flame others without any input to the discussion.
I hope you take a vacation. Take some time to reflect. You've done a great thing with this site, and there are a lot of us old timers, from the haloscan days, that would like to continue here with some good discussion. That is what made this site so great -- open, intelligent, sometimes funny discussion about UM.
With all that said: Go Blue! Next year is shaping up to be undefeated year at home. If we can pull off a couple fo close one's on the road, who knows? Longer term, the Hoke recruiting train is on time, and things are looking up. Very up.
December 1st, 2013 at 7:50 AM ^
There are some posters who should have been nuked awhile ago for dummy accounts, flaming other posters, etc. That would help the level of discussion around here, although I do think the bannings a few weeks ago helped a tiny bit.
December 1st, 2013 at 8:27 AM ^