OT: American pronunciation by region - is there a footbaw connection?
These are cool. After doing some recruiting maps for fun it was interesting how these match up for some pronunciations. Note just the link here... no actual comparisons to recruiting...
Just OT fun... enjoy.
the "you guys vs y'all" map is the cleanest break of Southern vs non-Southern states. It even correctly identifies Southern Florida as non-South ;)
They should have thrown "youse" in there as another option. I think there are some areas where it's preferred.
Also, I've lived in Michigan my whole life, but I've always pronounced syrup like "sear-up." Is that really uncommon?
I'm surprised they didn't highlight the yinzers in Pittsburgh.
There's also "you'uns"
It seems an oversight that they didn't have "all y'all" on there. These days, "y'all" is often singular, necessitating a second "all" to distinguish the plural.
And the crayon question need a "cren" option. That's how I said it growing up (I think because Mr. Rogers said it that way)
Also, I'd be interested in the divide between the long-a and short-a pronunciations of "apricot".
Pa-jam-ahs is crazy. Go watch the bananas in pajamas theme song. Dispite the fantastic opportunity to make a rhyme, they stick with the truth. Pa-jah-mas
Isn't that show Australian? Not sure they back up your American pronunciation argument. Pa-jam-ahs all the way!
I would like to see a map that shows the response to the following question:
How would you tell a player that you respect and appreciate his atheltic talents:
a) You are a good player
b) Your talents would be an asset to our team
c) You're a baller
St Louis is adamant that it's called soda. Holy cow. Even more bizarre is that St Louis is surrounded by pop and coke. Weird
from Michigan to Missouri (St. Louis suburbs) when I was 6, and moved back when I was 7. One of my biggest memories from that time in my life was how often I got chewed out by my peers, and even some parents for saying pop instead of soda.
I was visiting family in Belleview when I was about 6 or 7 and ordered a orange pop at a Burger King. I started crying when they handed me a flinstones push pop.
I'm a soda convert, unfortunately. I'm ashamed of it, but it just got old getting ridiculed on the East and now the West coast for saying pop. I've disgraced my Midwestern people.
When in Rome...
I have noticed the line is somewhere around Syracuse, NY. If you want to join the in on the front lines move to somwhere in Central/Western NY and take a stand!
I went to the University of Missouri-Rolla my freshman year and we had ongoing debates and even polls in class whether it was soda, pop or coke. My roommate was from Texas and called it soda water. I'm not sure if that's a regional thing or just his personal quirk.
I've heard it called "soda water" by several (heavily accented) southerners.
I grew up in St. Louis, went to UMR, then moved to the east coast before moving to west Michigan. At Rolla, kids from Kansas City and outlying areas called it pop and kids from St. Louis called it soda.
My only thought is that the use of soda in STL and Milwaukee, surrounded by pop territory, is that it has something to do with the beer industries in each city, notably AB and Miller. It's the only reason I can think of.
74polSKA, send me an email to sbooton13 at gmail dot com. I'd like to hear about your time at UMR.
The only thing I'm getting from that page is that now I want pecan pie.
I guess I've always wanted pee-kahn pie which according to Webster's is the only pronunciation that is incorrect. Oh well.
As in man-aze still over 2 months til football season starts.
I can use Pop or soda (whichever offends in the area I'm in).
Also Midwest they are "Party Stores". West coast are "Liquor Stores". North east are "Variety Stores".
They are "liqour stores" here in Chicago, southern Ohio, and wherever else I've spent a good deal of time in the Midwest. I only hear "party store" when I'm visiting family in MI.
"Package store" is also a common name, especially in Boston and Baltimore.
The package thing was always weird to me when I lived in Baltimore. Some bars would have signs that said "WE SELL PACKAGED GOODS" to mean we can put some beers in a bag and sell them to you. Why not just say "Beer to go" or something more obvious?
I was out in Cali in April and asked a waitress where the nearest party store was. After asking her coworkers, she said there was a Costco nearby where I could get party supplies like cups, balloons, etc.
That was very nice of her, but I just wanted booze.
Coming from Michigan, I was very surprised to discover in a lot of places, it's illegal to sell beer/wine at a grocery store. (The Beer Store is the only legal seller in Ontario, IIRC.) . To me it seems totally normal for a grocery store to have beer and wine sections. I'm surprised people elsewhere put up with such a weird, arbitrary regulation like that.
Grocery is another mispronounced word. Easterners call it grow-sir-eee while Michiganders say grow-sure-eee.
Manufacturers can also sell, but I don't really understand it.
Not a big fan of the system, frankly. I think it's one of the reasons why Ontario's craft brewing industry lags behind the US.
But I always called the "miniature lobsters" crayfish if they were in fresh water, such as Michigan lakes, and crawfish if they were from the gulf. Guess their the same thing. Who woulda thunk it?
Now anyone that calls it a crawdad can get the heck outta here. That's ridiculous.
I call them "crawdads", and apparently that's only common in Kentucky? I've been to Kentucky once, driving through.
According to the guy's map, "crawdad" is actually common in several states (it's the green area).
only in Bama man. only in Bama..
What do you call a drive-thru liquor store?
Heaven, duh.
Only in the South man !!!
I always kind of liked that expression. Maybe because of Better Than Ezra and "Cry in the Sun."
That expression is awesome. I so want to hear a college football announcer say it during a game.
EDIT: looking it up, it's apparently an idiom in multiple languages. In French, it's extended to "the devil is beating his wife and marrying his daughter."
Apparently in Haiti..."In Haiti, it is said that a zombie is beating his wife for salty food."
"Soda pop" is the original term, other than soft drink. So calling it "soda" is like calling an Oscar Meyer a "hot."
I've always thought that way too. To strengthen the argument, you can also point out that "baking soda" is clearly the correct noun form of soda. If baking soda = soda, then soda pop = pop.
I don't know what's wrong with me, but apparently I only matchup with my region 50% of the time and I was born and raised in Chicago.
From my prospective, the things they got wrong:
Tiny lobsters are "crayfish"
Mayonnaise is "man-aze"
Crayon is "cran"
Been is "ben"
Pecan is "pih-can"
Traffic circles are "roundabouts"
Highways and freeways are "expressways"
I feel like I've been lied to...
for almost all of them. But I would never say "highway".